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No consensus to promote at this time - Peacemaker67 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 08:20, 15 October 2018 (UTC) « Return to A-Class review list[reply]

Kalākaua[edit]

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I am nominating this article for A-Class review because it is almost there. Just need a few reviews to get it there. This is within scope because although Kalākaua never fought in a war to say. He was trained and part of the volunteer military companies of the Hawaiian monarchy from an early age. He was loosely involved in the Household guard mutiny of 1873. And especially his reign was characterized by an effort to expand the military system of Hawaii and territorial influence of Hawaii through the appropriation of military funds and governmental support. This is in line with another one of my past A-Class articles Curtis P. Iaukea who also never fought in a war. KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:45, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment KAVEBEAR, could you kindly explain how this article qualifies for a MILHIST review or is in project scope, because he seems more of a political leader than a military leader. Thanks, Kges1901 (talk) 20:22, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, certainly. I will edit above. KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:31, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I consider that an acceptable explanation. Kges1901 (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

  • Suggest scaling up the map
  • File:Kingdavidkalakaua_dust.jpg: when/where was this first published?
  • Not sure. I’m sure at least by 1891.
  • File:Kalakaua_R_1875_signature.svg should use PD-signature
  • Done.
  • File:Kalakaua,_ca._1850.jpg has a tag saying it was never published before 2003, and yet has a source published before 2003
  • Removed image for now.
  • File:Kalakaua_journey_around_the_world.svg: what is the source of the data presented?
Nikkimaria, Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop September 2017 — Maile (talk) 18:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Hawai_1883_dime_129426.jpg needs a tag for the original coin
Nikkimaria, Wehwalt Perhaps one of you could advise what kind of tag would be appropriate here? Looking at Commons:Category:Currency license tags, there is nothing that covers the original being issued by a kingdom that no longer exists. Hawaii was its own independent nation at that time, and it doesn't seem accurate to say, "This image depicts a unit of currency issued by the United States of America." — Maile (talk) 19:27, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, but as it was designed by a US federal government employee, Charles E. Barber and coined by the SF Mint, a PD-US or US Treasury would probably do the trick.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:15, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Thanks for your advice. — Maile (talk) 20:20, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Kalakaua_dust_%26_scratches.jpg: why the NPCO tag? The Bain tag is sufficient.
  • Removed NPCO tag.

Nikkimaria (talk) 14:05, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by Indy beetle[edit]

  • There's some inconsistency over using the apostrophe in Hawaiʻi that should be resolved.

-Indy beetle (talk) 02:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by PM[edit]

Nice article. A few comments from me:

  • in the lead, "Its renewal continued" in what year was it renewed?
  • I reinforce the issue that Indy beetle raised
  • I've done a light prose, grammar and punctuation c/e as I went, feel free to revert if I've changed meaning
  • (informally adopted) toby?
  • was entrusted into his
  • is it Lyda or Lydia Kamakaʻeha? Both are in the article.
  • is it usual to refer to Hawaiian people by the second name? Normally we would say "elder brother KaliokalaniJames"
  • Cooke's
  • "Lāhainā to live with his mother" is this Analea Keohokālole or Pai, his hānai mother?
  • aides-de-camp
  • suggest "were honorably received as guests of honor"
  • the "3rd Chief Clerk of the Department of the Interior" bit seems to be a repetition of the info from the tour, suggest putting it in chronological order
  • "Hawaii for the Hawaiians" has come up before, I suggest integrating this movement/motto in the article at either location
  • state when the Bayonet Constitution came into effect
  • "Liliuokalani to act as Rregent" and link regent, this capitalisation occurs later as well
  • link luau
  • link hula at first mention in the body
  • Claus Spreckels should just be Spreckels at this point, as he has been introduced
  • "Prime Minister of Hawaii"
  • suggest "On September 20, Gibson and Minister of the Interior Luther Aholo put forth a motion for the legislature to form a committee to oversee the birthday jubilee."
  • were the "Household Guards" the same as the "Royal Guards of Hawaii"?
  • there are a number of duplicate links in the body, suggest installing the script at User:Evad37/duplinks-alt to your commons.css page to identify these yourself
  • "including his brother-in-law" whose brother-in-law? Kalākaua's?
  • suggest "The king and the governor of Oahu also had as a military staff, consisting of a colonel and major." If that is what is intended?
  • say that Kaimiloa was a gunboat, as it begs the question
  • suggest "the military commissions appointing Dominis and his staff officers"
  • "Walter M. Gibson" should just be Gibson, as he has been introduced
  • "Samoan King Malietoa Laupepa" should just be Malietoa or Laupepa (as appropriate), as he has been introduced
  • were the "committee of thirteen" all US citizens?
  • "Previous suffrage" had this included females?
  • suggest "unpaid back taxes"
  • "surrender of the Wilcox's"
  • Against the advice of Dr. Woods
  • suggest "had not been active since the reign of Kamehameha I"
  • "Kalakaua and Kuhio aAvenues"
  • what is the source for the "Ancestors of Kalākaua" family tree?
  • fn 2 seems to have a typo
  • There is a lot of Further reading, has any of it been used in the article? You would definitely need to look at it to take this to FAC.

That's me done. Great job on this article! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:17, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Maile[edit]

Please see House of Kalākaua Bibliography as a possible remedy to lengthy "Further reading" sections. — Maile (talk) 16:36, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I like to withdraw the nomination until a later date. Thanks to everyone involved in the review.KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:10, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, KAVEBEAR. Withdrawn without prejudice to a re-nom at a later date. Suggest you action the outstanding points above before bringing this back to ACR though. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, you'll need to move this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Kalākaua/archive1 before re-nominating, otherwise the |A-Class=current syntax in the Milhist banner won't work. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:11, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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