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List of torpedo cruisers of Italy[edit]

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Another list article I've put together lately, this one covers the torpedo cruisers built by Italy in the late 19th century. The list caps off this project, and is part of a larger project to document all of the cruisers built by Italy from the 1870s to the 1960s. Thanks to all who take the time to review the list! Parsecboy (talk) 20:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

  • Italicize Goito in the caption
    • Good catch.
  • Most of the images use a pre-1923 publication tag, but most do not have a publication date listed here or at the source. Suggest either tracking down and adding an early publication where one exists, or switching tags. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:03, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • These are all photos from the NHHC, which assert that images in their collection are in the PD in the US unless otherwise indicated. Thanks Nikki. Parsecboy (talk) 17:41, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • PD for what reason, though? Nikkimaria (talk) 21:27, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        • The photos of other nations' ships in the NHHC's collection almost always come from ONI, one of the responsibilities of which was to collect photos of potential enemies' warships for recognition purposes. The vast bulk of these photos were either taken by naval personnel for ONI, or were acquired by ONI commercially (and in this case, any that were obtained commercially would have been acquired before 1923, since the ships depicted were all scrapped by that point, and the photos would not have been useful to ONI at that point). For example, the first image in the list states that it came "From ONI album of foreign warships (dated circa 1900)".
        • I've also done a bit of digging on the Conti-Vecchi credited with several of the photos - he was indeed a photographer of warships in the late 19th and early 20th centuries - he published a number of photos in L'Illustrazione Italiana through the 1890s and 1900s. Parsecboy (talk) 10:05, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
          • In that case, it would make sense to add a pre-1923 publication for those images where there is one, and otherwise swap the tag to a Navy one. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:36, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
CommentsSupport by PM
  • in the lead "built by any naviesy"
    • Fixed
  • comma after "minelayers" in the lead
    • Done
  • a bit of repetition in the last sentence of the lead with "early 1920s", suggest "were then sold for scrap"
    • Good catch
  • drop the comma "She spent little time in active service, as a result"
    • Fixed
  • suggest adding Confienza's medium gun to the table
    • Done
  • suggest adding the medium guns to the Partenope table
    • Done
  • "theItalo-Turkish" needs a space
    • Fixed
  • add an OCLC for Notes on Naval Progress
    • Done

That's me done. Great job. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:56, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Peacemaker. Parsecboy (talk) 13:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Great list, Nate. Ticks all the boxes, just the right amount of detail. Supporting. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:30, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support Nice work as usual Parsec. I think that the A-class criteria are met, though I have one comment:

  • "A total of eighteen vessels of the type were constructed, based on six different designs" - could something more precise than 'based on' be used here? (for instance, ship classes). Nick-D (talk) 09:57, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks Nick - see if what I changed it to works for you. Parsecboy (talk) 12:11, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments: G'day, Nate, thanks for your efforts. I have the following comments/suggestions, all pretty minor: AustralianRupert (talk) 01:50, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • in the Folgore class section, there is a citation in the "Ship" field, but none of the other tables employ a citation in that field. Should they, or is this one unnecessary?
    • Unnecessary, good catch
  • in the References, some ISBNs have hyphens and some don't (e.g. compare Gardiner with Osborne)
    • Removed the hyphens
  • in the References, the title of the Stephenson work could take an endash for "1911-1912"
    • Good catch
  • in the References, the 1903 Brassey work appears to be formatted differently (e.g. use of brackets). It is the only entry not to use a template
    • I had to hard code that one, because the {{cite journal}} template throws a fit if you don't include a title (and there isn't one to use)
  • Neal appears in the Notes, but I couldn't find this entry in the References
    • Added
  • same as above for Robinson
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