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Document issues[edit]

The NRHP document and accompanying photos for the Benjamin H. Averiett House should be available stored at their reference number, 86002034. However the documents there ( "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Benjamin H. Averiett House?". National Park Service. Retrieved August 3, 2019. With accompanying photos? ) are in fact the document and photos for the Welch-Averiett House, with reference 86002044. The documents under 86002044 (Marilyn Sullivan; Tom Dolan (May 1986). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Welch-Averiett House / L.L. Dean House; Welch Spring". National Park Service. Retrieved August 3, 2019. With accompanying 10 photos from 1985 are the same as the documents stored under 86002034. Please make the Benjamin H. Averiett House documents and photos available. --Doncram (talk) 07:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NRHP name issue[edit]

National Register of Historic Places listings in Wilcox County, Alabama includes a "Hawthorn House", but local sources cited at the list say that it's actually "Hawthorne House". Noted by Nyttend. doncram (talk) 18:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Has been updated in list-article and in individual article Hawthorne House to show "Hawthorne" only. Also there is HABS coverage as "Colonel Joseph R. Hawthorne House, Broad Street (County Road 59), Pine Apple, Wilcox, AL", at here. --doncram (talk) 19:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting to NRHP for correction as Batch and item number AL-01. --doncram (talk) 19:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm certain that the "Pfau-Creighton Cottage" in Mobile should be "Pfau-Crichton Cottage," since the most significant resident was Anne Randolph Crichton, the last direct descendant of Crichton's founder. (Crichton was a town that was absorbed by Mobile in the mid-20th century) See article for sources.Altairisfar_talk 14:29, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One source (at http://www.flotte2.com/MobileNeighborhoods ) states that: "Anne Randolph Crichton, the last direct descendant of Hugh Randolph Crichton, was known for her long ownership of Chinaberry, a historic cottage with an elaborate garden on Old Shell Road at the base of Spring Hill." The NRIS reported address of the Pfau-Creighton House is "3703 Old Shell Rd., Mobile, Alabama". There is apparently a scrapbook created by Anne Randolph Crichton in the archives of Tulane University, listed at http://www.tulane.edu/~wc/collections/shelflist.htm .

It seems likely, though not definite, that Creighton should be changed to Crichton in the NRHP name. Note there is no specific other name for the house given at any source we've found yet, though. Also it is mentioned as "Pfau-Creighton" in the 1982 MPS document "19th Century Spring Hill Neighborhood TR" available at http://www.nr.nps.gov/multiples/64000005.pdf

I think that there are no other sources supporting either name in the current Pfau-Crichton Cottage wikipedia article, located at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfau-Crichton_Cottage .

Submitting as Batch# AL-02. --doncram (talk) 19:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Though there aren't any online sources, I confirmed both names and the address with John Sledge, the Mobile Historic Development Commission's architectural historian. Altairisfar 13:46, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Belle Mont (Tuscumbia, Alabama) is spelled Belmont in the Register. The owner, the Alabama Historical Commission, lists it as Belle Mont here. Additionally, Robert Gamble's Historic architecture in Alabama: a guide to styles and types, 1810-1930 and the historic marker at the house list it as Belle Mont. Altairisfar 23:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-03

Two misnamed houses in Eutaw, Greene County, Alabama:
- The Iredell P. Vaughan House is actually the Iredell P. Vaughn House, this one is the Greene County Historical Society headquarters and commonly known now as the Vaughn-Morrow House. Per direct information from the Greene County Historical Society.
- The William B. Wills House is actually the William B. Willis House, a.k.a. Sipsey. Per direct information from the Greene County Historical Society and this article. Altairisfar (talk) 22:31, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Goodwin-Hamilton House is listed in NRIS2013a as being near "Sylagauca, Alabama". It is near Sylacauga, Alabama instead. NRIS data entry error; the NRHP text document has "Sylacauga" and that is used by related other NRHP listings. --Doncram (talk) 08:02, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Town location issues[edit]

New Hope Rosenwald School, refnum 01001297, in Chambers County, Alabama, is listed in NRIS as being near "Frdonia", which appears to be a typo for Fredonia, Alabama, a community in the county. Typo: Frdonia; Correction: Fredonia; in town field. doncram (talk) 19:17, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-04

North Central Historic District in Tallapoosa County, Alabama with refnum 05000833 is listed in NRIS2013a as being located in [non-existant] Alexandria City, Alabama; that appears to be an NRIS data entry typo as the NRHP registration document is clear that it is Alexander City, Alabama. --Doncram (talk) 18:31, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Street address issues[edit]

Langdale Historic District in Valley is listed as being "Roughly bounded by 65th St., 20th Ave., 61st, 58th, and 55th Sts., 16th Ave., and Chattahoochie R.": correct "Chattahoochie" to Chattahoochee. Nyttend (talk) 15:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-05

Water Avenue Historic District in Selma is listed as being "Water Ave. bounded by Lauderdale, MLK Blvd., Beech Creek, Alabama R,": perhaps add a comma after "Water Ave.", and either add an "and" before "Alabama" and change the comma after the "R", or add the missing bits of the description. Nyttend (talk) 04:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Working on submission as Batch# AL-08

Nyttend, it's not clear to me what are the missing bits of the description. Could you state, please, what exactly would be the best new complete location description? --doncram (talk) 20:08, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pleasant Hill Presbyterian Church in Pleasant Hill is listed as being "O.2 mi. E of jct. of Cty. Rd. 7 and Cty. Rd. 12": correct "O.2" [with the letter "O"] to "0.2" [with a zero]. Nyttend (talk) 04:35, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-09

The Old Town Historic District Boundary Increase in Selma is listed as being "Jefferson Davis Ave.; area roughly bounded by Broad, Dallal, US 80 and Franlin; Selma Ave.; and Franklin St.": correct "Dallal" to "Dallas" and "Franlin" to "Franklin". Nyttend (talk) 04:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-10

Avondale Park Historic District in Birmingham is listed as being "Roughly bounded by 47th st., 7th Ave., 8th Court, 34th St.,, and AL 4": remove one of the double commas and change "47th st." to "47th St." Nyttend (talk) 13:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-011

Jonathan W. Bass House in Leeds (near Birmingham) is listed at 629 Montevallo Rd., but this location apparently doesn't exist; the Leeds Historical Society says that it's 1129 Montevallo. Nyttend (talk) 13:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-12

Downtown Birmingham Historic District is listed as being "Roughly bounded by 3rd Ave., 24th St., 1rst Ave., and 20th St." and its boundary increase is "312--322 21rst St. N and 1923 3rd. Ave.": correct "1rst" to "1st". Nyttend (talk) 13:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-013

Hanover Place Historic District in Birmingham is listed as being "Roughly bounded by, Highland Ave., Hanover Cir., and US 31": either remove the comma after "by" or supply the missing street name(s). Nyttend (talk) 14:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-014

Nyttend, what are the missing street names? What exactly should be the new complete description? Otherwise, the suggestion is then to remove the comma after "by". --doncram (talk) 20:08, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Steiner Bank Building in Birmingham is listed at "2101 lst Ave. N": correct "lst" to "1st" — if we capitalised all letters, it would appear as "2101 LST AVE. N", rather than "2101 1ST AVE. N". Nyttend (talk) 14:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So the correction is to change letter l to number 1 within "1st".

Submitting as Batch# AL-015

Gurley Historic District in Gurley is listed at "Section Line St., Rialroad St., Maple Blvd. and Church St. bet. Gurley Pike and Jackson St.": correct "Rialroad" to "Railroad". Nyttend (talk) 21:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-016

Cedar Grove Plantation near Faunsdale is listed at "Marengo Co. Rd. E of jct. with AL 25"; need to supply the county road number, like all other Marengo County sites listed along county roads. Google Maps shows it near County Road 78. Nyttend (talk) 22:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nyttend, what is the suggested new text?

Hope to submit as Batch# AL-017

The Springville Historic District is listed as being "Roughly bounded by Academy, Wilson, and Cross Sts.,the Norfork-Southern RR tracks, Industrial Dr., and Sarusce St.": correct "Norfork-Southern" to Norfolk Southern. Moreover, there doesn't appear to be a "Sarusce St." in Springville, so this too should be checked. Nyttend (talk) 16:43, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-018

The Martin Lindsey House in Mobile is listed at 3112 "Bayfront Rd.", it should be "Bay Front Rd." Altairisfar _talk 13:35, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting as Batch# AL-019

The Monroeville Downtown Historic District in Monroeville, listed within the past month, consists of "Parts of N. and S. Alabama Aves., E. and W. Claiborne St., N. and S. Monut Pleasant Aves., Pineville Rd."; correct "Monut Pleasant" to "Mount Pleasant". Nyttend (talk) 16:39, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The typo appears within the National Register's Weekly announcements for the week of Sept. 29, 2009, which are here: http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/listings/20090925.htm . Not necessarily same as what is entered into NRIS, i am not sure if it is one entry which goes into two places, or if there could be typos that appear in the announcement that do not go into NRIS. --doncram (talk) 20:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Planning for submitting as Batch# AL-020

The N.Q. and Virginia M. Thompson House in Citronelle, listed on January 25, 1990, is listed at 105 LeBaron; the address has changed since the listing to 7850 LeBaron Ave. Confirmed in person and through Mobile County tax records (Note, tax records incorrectly abbreviate it as a street rather than the correct avenue.)Altairisfar 23:23, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Hiram B. Austin House has old NRIS address of "State Route 163 at mile marker 12," it should be State Route 193. This stretch of the Dauphin Island Parkway used to be routed as 163, but was rerouted to 193. The actual address, as confirmed by Mobile County tax records should be "12995 Dauphin Island Pkwy." Altairisfar 20:59, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Barr's Subdivision Historic District has a boundary description of "Roughly along U.S. 45 and Howard St. between LeBaron and State." It should be "Roughly along U.S. 45 and Howard Ave. between LeBaron and State." Altairisfar 13:31, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Central Core Historic District has a boundary description of "Roughly State and Le Baron Sts. from Mobile to 2nd Sts." It should be "Roughly State St. and LeBaron Ave. from Mobile to 2nd Sts." Altairisfar 13:31, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Citronelle Railroad Historic District has a boundary description of "Roughly Center and Main from Union to Faye" It should be "Roughly Centre and Main from Union to Faye." Altairisfar 20:01, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Shapre-Monte House in Phenix City, Russell County is listed in the database at "726 6th Ave." when it should be "721 6th Ave." Correct address found by photographer of structure during visit. Altairisfar 14:09, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Oates House in Abbeville, Henry County, is listed at 402 Kirkland Street, but should be 302 Kirkland Street. Address clearly visible on Google street view. Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 00:49, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Building at 105 N. Washington Street, Huntsville: not sure if this is a name issue or an address issue. Name is 105 North Washington, address lists 105 South Washington. --Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 19:24, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Done Figured this one out (yay nomination forms!): the description, sketch, map, and photos in the nomination match 105 South Washington. A correction was later made to the address, but confusingly, not the name. Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 00:49, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Demolished but still listed[edit]

Cedar Haven; no source provided, but likely derived from locally-published book cited elsewhere on the article. Nyttend (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Roseland Plantation, according to locally-published book cited on the article. Nyttend (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nectar Covered Bridge, burned in 1993: see photo. Nyttend (talk) 14:00, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Miller-O'Donnell House, confirmed with the Mobile Historical Development Commission. Altairisfar _talk 18:00, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Tschiener House, destroyed by fire, confirmed with the Mobile Historical Development Commission. Also, alternate name listed as "Damus School," it should have been "Dumas School."Altairisfar _talk 22:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
North Lawrence-Monroe Street Historic District entire block demolished to make way for a RSA Tower parking deck in the mid-1990s. Altairisfar 20:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Brame House, demolished. Altairisfar 20:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
George Leatherbury House, destroyed by Hurricane Katrina on August 29, 2005. Confirmed by personal visit and Mobile County Revenue Commission records. Altairisfar 20:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
West End Masonic Temple, Birmingham, Alabama. NRHP-listed in 1987. Burned in 1996. Commemorative plaque in this Flickr photo covers. Noticed by editor User:Blueboar. --doncram (talk) 16:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dr. Andrew D. McLain Office and Drug Store, Salem, Lee County. NRHP listed on February 3, 1983. Destroyed by a tornado on February 28, 2009. Confirmed here, here, and here. Altairisfar 17:40, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Robert Wilton Burton House, Auburn, Lee County. NRHP listed on May 8, 1980. Dismantled in 1993 per File:Robert Wilton Burton House Historic Marker2.JPG. Altairisfar 17:54, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Dallas Mill, Huntsville. Destroyed by fire in 1991. --Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 19:24, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Peace Baptist Church. An unsourced note at the article states the fellowship hall has been demolished since the 2005 listing. The fellowship hall was the historic building where in 1963 there were strategy meetings of the Birmingham civil rights movement. The main church was then a 1970-built brick building which presumably survives. (See Van West, Carroll; Linda Nelson; Marjorie White (March 24, 2004). "Peace Baptist Church". National Register of Historic Places Registration Form. National Park Service. Archived from the original on March 17, 2014. Retrieved March 30, 2017. See also: "Accompanying photos". Archived from the original on March 17, 2014. Retrieved March 17, 2014.). --do ncr am 21:48, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Anniston Cotton Manufacturing Company was a cotton mill which operated from 1880 to 1977. Per note at National Register of Historic Places listings in Calhoun County, Alabama, the complex was "Demolished as of April 2014, and then became the site of the Calhoun County Human Resources Department." --Doncram (talk) 12:34, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Other issues[edit]

Heaviest Corner on Earth is listed as being built by "Weston,Willaim C.": correct to "William". Nyttend (talk) 13:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The NRIS page for U.S. Post Office (Auburn, Alabama) has the photos for U.S. Post Office (Opelika, Alabama), and the latter's NRIS page has no photos. Both are within the same county. kennethaw88 • talk 23:06, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Arlington Park (Birmingham, Alabama) is incorrectly listed in NRIS2013a as having area of "Less than one acre", despite including 68 contributing buildings. Apparently a misreading of the NRHP document, which reports 50 acres (20 ha) but maybe it looked like ".50" rather than "50". NRHP document is: >Linda Nelson (December 12, 1994). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: Arlington Park / Arlington-West End Historic District". National Park Service. Retrieved July 25, 2019. With accompanying eight photos. --Doncram (talk) 22:20, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]