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discussion moot, WikiProject New York State Routes is no longer part of U.S. Roads. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 20:23, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New York State Route 273 (3 net support votes)[edit]

New York State Route 273 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) review

Suggestion: Promote to A-Class
Nominator's comments: This article has to be one of my best when it comes to decommissioned highways. I have brought it to A-class review for the sake of getting it ready for FA. This is sort of a twin of New York State Route 254, but is a little longer and has more info as such.
Nominated by: Mitch32(UP) 10:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Very nice. You may want a reference for the lead and another for the route description such as an old state highway map. Otherwise, the article looks good. ~~ ĈőмρǖтέŗĠύʎ890100 (t ↔ Ĕ ↔ ώ) 01:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments from Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) (01:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]
    • WP:OVERLINK: the units of measurement in the lead
    • In the "Designation and decommissioning" section, the references are out of order (9 then 2)  Done
    • Ref 4 should be using the {{cite map}} template
    • What is the significance of the image of the Campbell Hotel?
    • Images check out, freely licensed, commons based.
    • External links check out
  • I just fixed these and the Campbell Hotel is acorrding to reserach, a historic landmark in the area. ~~ ĈőмρǖтέŗĠύʎ890100 (t ↔ Ĕ ↔ ώ) 15:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I still dont see the need for the Campbell House Hotel; If it is significant, something needs to be added to the prose. --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 15:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OpposeComment The prose needs some work. The 2nd paragraph of the Old roads section needs to be re-written. For example:, 800 shares of $20 to... 800 shares valued at $20 each?

    • Done - Mitch32(UP) 17:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMO there's some wordy sentences that should be shortened. Here's what I found:

  • This sentence needs to be re-written "The route, as mentioned, began"
    • Done - Mitch32(UP) 17:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • IMO unbold "Washington County Route 18, Greenfield Lane, and Washington County Route 18A" and "Hampton and Whitehall Turnpike." IMO bolded words should be limited to alternate titles that redirect to the article.
      • All are related to NY 273 and are allowed to be bolded - they will be redirected.Mitch32(UP) 17:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Not far after the intersection." Just, "After the intersection" Out west anything closer than 200 miles is "not far" so for a 7 mile route, not far is obvious =-). This appears a couple of times in prose.
  • Ore Red Hill, a mountain outside of Whitehal (most people know Hill = Mountain)
    • Done - Mitch32(UP) 17:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • progressed even farther
  • "intersected with a local road". Doesn't pass the sniff test, if the road isn't notable enough to mention by name, does it merit mention?
    • Does the ref show a name? I think not.Mitch32(UP) 17:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Route 273 intersected with New York State Route 22A and becomes concurrent for a short distance." Reword, tense change in mid sentence. "for a short distance" the highway's only 7 miles long, IMO that's obvious. =-)
    • Done - Mitch32(UP) 17:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The highway left 22A quickly abruptly? after a short distance?
    • Done - Mitch32(UP) 17:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • which as the names suggest, followed the routing of Route 273 from Whitehall to Hampton. How about, "named for the cities it connected"
    • Done - Mitch32(UP) 17:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These are all easily fixable, and I'm willing to change to support once addressed.Dave (talk) 03:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC) I no longer oppose promotion. However, I'd like a 2nd opinion on the prose before voting support. I'm not sure if it really is an issue or just we have different styles, but IMO could still use a copyedit. Let me sit on it for a day or two. Dave (talk) 05:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support the big issues are fixed. However, I still think this article is wordy. I'd recommend a copyedit before submitting to FAC.
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