Wikipedia talk:Featured and good topic candidates/2014

Ford Island

I'm considering this as a topic area for Featured topic status. It needs some work, but this is what I have in mind:

• Ford Island →
• USS Arizona (BB-39) →
• USS Arizona Memorial →
• USS Missouri (BB-63) →
• USS Utah (BB-31) →
• Admiral Clarey Bridge →
• USS Oklahoma (BB-37) →
• Pacific Aviation Museum Pearl Harbor →
• Naval Auxiliary Landing Field Ford Island →
• Seth Porter Ford →
• Battleship Row →

I think I can get Ford Island, Pacific Aviation Museum, USS Arizon Memorial and USS Oklahoma to GA class. Would I also need the last 2 to be at GA status?--v/r - TP 19:08, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

While Seth Porter Ford does not have to be in the topic, Naval Auxiliary Landing Field Ford Island should be included. However, why is USS Bowfin (SS-287) in {{Ford Island}} but not mentioned in Ford Island? Since the Bowfin lies closer to Honolulu's mainland than Ford Island, it should probably be removed from the navbox to avoid confusion. Otherwise, it appears the rest of the topic as proposed is complete.--十八 22:28, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, so I've added arrows above, that is my goal. If I reach my goal, do you think this topic will be FTC material? I put the Bowfin in the Navbox to include all of the Pearl Harbor memorials. A separate navbox for the memorials would duplicate a lot of the Ford Island stuff.--v/r - TP 03:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, those first 9 articles should work for a good topic nomination. However, although not applying to this topic, does Battleship Row really need its own article? It seems like you could easily merge it into Attack on Pearl Harbor.--十八 04:15, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Why is the Oklahoma included here? She was salvaged and later lost at sea while being towed to the mainland. Admittedly she was sunk in Battleship Row and was the only BB other than Arizona not to be returned to service, but so what? And Battleship Row needs to be revamped; the term actually refers to the mooring positions alongside Ford Island usually used by the Pacific Fleet's battleships.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

The Oklahoma's mast was returned to Ford Island and currently sits in a memorial right outside the entrance to the USS Missouri. Juhachi, I felt the same way upon first impression. But my guess is that if I were to do a bit of digging, battleship row is probably notable in it's own right. I think Mr. Ford is important to a topic about Ford Island as its namesake.--v/r - TP 06:27, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I think Battleship Row is notable only in the context of Pearl Harbor; I'm sure other places have similar type names for parts of the fleet anchorages. Don't forget that every article needs to be at least a good article for good topic status; and 50% must be FA for a featured topic.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 07:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

A question on procedure

I've recently finished writing the last few articles that will complete this rather large topic. Granted, two lists need to go through FLC (which means I'll see you in 6 months ;) ), but I'm not sure of the proper procedure. Because the topic is so large, I've split it into subtopics - 4 of the 5 subtopics are already Good Topics, but the last one is not. When it comes time, should I nominate the subtopic separately from the main topic or will one nomination do the job? I don't want to create more work for anyone than I already am. Parsecboy (talk) 12:26, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Nominate each topic separately. Nergaal (talk) 16:22, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 16:38, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Overlap

Crossposting from GamerPro's talk page, per his suggestion. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:15, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

• Roughly how much overlap is allowed? Say, if we had a Roekiah filmography topic, and a Kartolo filmography topic (only difference would be the main article and Berdjoang being included in Kartolo's filmography), or (a less extreme example) a Films written by Saeroen topic and a Films produced by Union Films topic (overlap of four articles), would they all have a chance for FTC? (Union Films is only two articles short; Saeroen is a little further back but still in good shape) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:53, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Te Saeroen set has less than half of the articles overlap, so I don't think you should worry about that. The other set, I am not sure. They seem to be natural topics, but I have not taken a good look at to. Is there a sensible way to merge the two? Nergaal (talk) 10:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

• "Filmography of Roekiah and Kartolo" is possible, but that would exclude Berdjoang. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:23, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

For those who need to visualize it, Union and Saeroen would look like this (current ratings used)

Whereas Roekiah and Kartolo's would look like this

Wikipedia:Featured topics on the Main Page

This may be of interest. Bencherlite^Talk 22:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)