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1673 - Jacques Marquette and Louis Jolliet begin their exploration of the Great Lakes and the Mississippi river.
- Marquette article says they left on 17 May and the Jolliet article says 18 May. howcheng {chat} 16:52, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
2003 - Military preparations for 2003 invasion of Iraq with 270,000 men in the order of battle
- Article now redirects to 2003 invasion of Iraq. howcheng {chat} 16:52, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Munda is signaled in Talk, but is not here. Shall i put this here or in Media Wiki 17 March? Muriel 11:22, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

It is already there - in an HTML comment. --mav

Change of Image[edit]

~~{{editprotected}}~~ It seems like File:Golda_Meir_03265u.jpg would be more beneficial to the main page as there is already a picture of Discovery featured and Vanguard I is a bit redundante. This could be changed throughout the day. ERK^talk 23:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DoneValley2city^‽ 04:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The picture of Discovery has been replaced, and now we have enough portrait images. --BorgQueen (talk) 04:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 (there has been a spate of Arab Spring articles on in recent months, giving rise to WP:RECENT concerns)
Omitted: SS Utopia, Belzec extermination camp, Richard Riot, 1957 Cebu Douglas C-47 crash
Included: Californium (4th appearance, last in 2010), Mount Agung (first appearance), Battle of Afabet (first appearance), Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God (3rd appearance, last in 2010)
Repeats: Siege of Boston (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Soviet Union referendum, 1991; 1992 attack on Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires
Omitted: Siege of Boston; Californium; Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God
Included: Petronius Maximus (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; moved from May 31); SS Utopia (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Golda Meir (8th appearance, last in 2010)
Repeats: Mount Agung (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 50th anniversary); Battle of Afabet (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 25th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:55, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Edward, the Black Prince; Battle of Los Alporchones; Richard Ramirez (not really new—had made an appearance back in 2004, but was later removed)
Omitted: Petronius Maximus; SS Utopia; Mount Agung; Golda Meir; Battle of Afabet
Included: Kingdom of Butuan (first appearance); First Taranaki War (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); 1957 Cebu Douglas C-47 crash (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Burst of Joy (first appearance); United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 04:43, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Omitted: Kingdom of Butuan; First Taranaki War; 1957 Cebu Douglas C-47 crash; Burst of Joy; United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973
Included: Edward, the Black Prince (first appearance); Battle of Los Alporchones (first appearance); Siege of Boston (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Richard Riot (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 60th anniversary); Richard Ramirez (2nd appearance, last in 2004; 30th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:40, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Omitted: Edward, the Black Prince; Battle of Los Alporchones; Siege of Boston; Richard Riot; Richard Ramirez
Included: Petronius Maximus (3rd appearance, last in 2013); First Taranaki War (3rd appearance, last in 2014); SS Utopia (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 125th anniversary); Californium (5th appearance, last in 2012); Soviet Union referendum, 1991 (first appearance; 25th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:12, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Mount Agung; Golda Meir; 1992 attack on Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires; Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God
Omitted: Petronius Maximus; First Taranaki War; SS Utopia; Californium; Soviet Union referendum, 1991
Included: Rajahnate of Butuan (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Siege of Boston (4th appearance, last in 2015); Bełżec extermination camp (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 75th anniversary); 1957 Cebu Douglas C-47 crash (3rd appearance, last in 2014; 60th anniversary); 2004 unrest in Kosovo (4th appearance, last in 2010); Jocelin of Glasgow (first appearance); Pattie Boyd (first appearance); William Gibson (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 04:14, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Edward the Black Prince (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Golda Meir
Omitted: History of Song; Siege of Boston; 1957 Cebu Douglas C-47 crash; 2004 unrest in Kosovo (ineligible—maintenance); Jocelin of Glasgow; Pattie Boyd; William Gibson
Included: Battle of Los Alporchones (2nd appearance, last in 2015); SS Utopia (4th appearance, last in 2016); Richard Riot (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Dugway sheep incident (first appearance; 50th anniversary); Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God (4th appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Emily Sartain (first appearance); Margaret Bondfield (2nd appearance, last in 2016; normally appears on June 8); Shu Xiuwen (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 02:17, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Rajahnate of Butuan (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Edward the Black Prince
Omitted: Battle of Los Alporchones; SS Utopia; Richard Riot; Dugway sheep incident; Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God; Emily Sartain; Margaret Bondfield (returned to her normal date of June 8)
Included: Petronius Maximus (4th appearance, last in 2016); Siege of Valenciennes (1676–77) (first appearance); First Taranaki War (4th appearance, last in 2016); Golda Meir (9th appearance, last in 2013; 50th anniversary); Penmanshiel Tunnel (first appearance; 40th anniversary); Edith New (first appearance); Toni Preckwinkle (first appearance)
Repeats: Shu Xiuwen (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 50th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 15:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edward[edit]

The anniversary of Edward becoming the first duke in England strikes me as very trivial. There is no practical difference between dukes and earls so this is not exactly an earth-shattering moment in English history, let alone global history. It looks particularly silly next to blurbs about wars, mass murder, and the discovery of a chemical element. And on top of it all, Edward is the one pictured. Surtsicna (talk) 17:14, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: Sorry for the late reply, but do you have a suggestion for a better date to put Edward on? —howcheng {chat} 16:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

New articles (ineligible): William F. Raynolds (TFA for 2020)
Omitted: Petronius Maximus; Siege of Valenciennes (1676–77); First Taranaki War; Golda Meir; Penmanshiel Tunnel; Edith New; Toni Preckwinkle; Shu Xiuwen
Included: Edward the Black Prince (2nd appearance, last in 2015); Siege of Boston (5th appearance, last in 2017); Californium (6th appearance, last in 2016; 70th anniversary); Battle of Afabet (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God (5th appearance, last in 2018; 10th anniversary); Gertrude of Nivelles (first appearance); Menno van Coehoorn (first appearance); Stormy Daniels (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:12, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anniversary of the Unification of Italy[edit]

Can it be added, after "Saint Patrick's Day (Christianity)", Anniversary of the Unification of Italy (1861) ? --LukeWiller (talk) 13:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

@Ritchie333: Would you be able to help with this? Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 15:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cullen328: Maybe? Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 17:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not familiar with the standards for this section of the main page, and I am at work right now. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:58, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I just realized User:Howcheng is the admin who follows these—perhaps you can address this? Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 18:01, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LukeWiller: Sorry, the article is not good enough. There are too many paragraphs that have no footnotes. —howcheng {chat} 06:55, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng: Don't worry, thanks anyway. --LukeWiller (talk) 13:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

@Howcheng: I improved the article with the addition of footnotes: now could it be okay? --LukeWiller (talk) 14:35, 17 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

@LukeWiller: Nice work, I've put it in. —howcheng {chat} 18:46, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng: Thanks... :-) --LukeWiller (talk) 19:55, 17 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

Omitted: Edward the Black Prince; Siege of Boston; Californium; Battle of Afabet; Battle of Afabet; Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God; Gertrude of Nivelles; Menno van Coehoorn; Stormy Daniels
Included: Anniversary of the Unification of Italy (first appearance); Battle of Los Alporchones (3rd appearance, last in 2018); First Taranaki War (5th appearance, last in 2019); 1957 Cebu Douglas C-47 crash (4th appearance, last in 2017); 1991 Soviet Union referendum (2nd appearance, last in 2016; 50th anniversary); United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 (2nd appearance, last in 2014; 10th anniversary); William F. Raynolds (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Walter Rudolf Hess (first appearance); Margaret Whitlam (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Chuck Muncie
Omitted: Battle of Los Alporchones; First Taranaki War; 1957 Cebu Douglas C-47 crash; 1991 Soviet Union referendum; United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973; William F. Raynolds; Walter Rudolf Hess
Included: Siege of Valenciennes (1676–1677) (2nd appearance, last in 2019); SS Utopia (5th appearance, last in 2018); Belzec extermination camp/Operation Reinhard (Belzec: 3rd appearance, last in 2019; Operation: first); Richard Riot (4th appearance, last in 2018); Richard Ramirez (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Rosina Heikel (first appearance); Toni Preckwinkle (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 75th birthday)
Repeats: Margaret Whitlam (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:31, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]