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Today's featured article for October 13, 2024

"The Riddle of the Sphinx" is the third episode of the third series of the British dark comedy anthology television programme Inside No. 9. Written by the programme's creators, Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith, and directed by Guillem Morales, it first aired on 28 February 2017 on BBC Two. It stars Alexandra Roach as Nina, a young woman seeking answers to the Varsity cryptic crossword, Pemberton as Professor Squires, who sets the crossword using the pseudonym Sphinx, and Shearsmith as Dr Tyler. The same crossword was published in The Guardian on the day the episode aired, and the episode is filled with references to the puzzle. Influences for the episode include Anthony Shaffer's 1970 play Sleuth, the works of Anton Chekhov, and the 1989 film The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover. Critics lauded the writing and the precise attention to detail in the production. Roach's performance was praised, as was the direction of Morales. (Full article...)

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Picture of the day for October 13, 2024

Hohenschwangau Castle is a 19th-century palace in southern Germany. It was the childhood residence of King Ludwig II of Bavaria and was built by his father, King Maximilian II of Bavaria. It is located in the German village of Hohenschwangau near the town of Füssen, part of the county of Ostallgäu in southwestern Bavaria, Germany, close to the border with Austria. This photograph shows the Castle as it was in 2021.

Hohenschwangau Castle

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2012 notes

Omitted: Siege of Port Royal (1710); Whirlpool Galaxy (ineligible—POTD for 2012); B'nai B'rith; Miracle of the Sun; 2010 Copiapó mining accident
Included: Battle of Queenston Heights (2nd appearance, last in 2005; 200th anniversary); Revival of the Hebrew language (first appearance); Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn (first appearance); Treaty of Kars (first appearance); Paddington Bear (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:06, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Omitted: Battle of Queenston Heights; Revival of the Hebrew language; Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn; Paddington Bear
Included: Knights Templar (7th appearance, last in 2010); B'nai B'rith (8th appearance, last in 2011); Georgia Institute of Technology (first appearance); Pietro Badoglio (5th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible; 70th anniversary)
Repeats: Treaty of Kars

—howcheng {chat} 05:01, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Revival of the Hebrew language (maintenance)
Omitted: Knights Templar; Georgia Institute of Technology; Treaty of Kars
Included: Claudius (first appearance); Siege of Port Royal (1710) (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Miracle of the Sun (6th appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: B'nai B'rith (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total); Pietro Badoglio (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:18, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 13 October 2014

{{edit protected}} I propose the addition of Eid al-Ghadeer. This day is an important day for Muslims specially shia muslims. Mhhossein (talk) 19:19, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: @Mhhossein: I'd say that this was a worthy entry, but there's a problem: there's no mention in the article that the festival falls on 13 October this year. We would need a citation for this in the article before it could be added to the selected anniversaries page. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Stradivarius: Thanks for your attention. This event is a non Gregorian-based one and so it's date changes every year. Even, every year, it's date is different in most of the countries based on their geographical location and because it is date is calculated based on lunar system. However, in many countries, 13 October coincides with this important event this year. Mhhossein (talk) 02:21, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at how it's done on Eid al-Fitr. You would need to do something similar. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 15:40, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng: Thanks for adding it to the anniversaries but it was late and next year it will not be on the same date (13 October). Mhhossein (talk) 03:28, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have it on so that next year I'll know to move it to the right date. —howcheng {chat} 06:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Deleted: Universal Time (moved to October 22)
Omitted: Siege of Port Royal (1710); B'nai B'rith; Miracle of the Sun; Pietro Badoglio
Included: Knights Templar (8th appearance, last in 2013); Georgia Institute of Technology (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Paddington Bear (2nd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Claudius (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 10:08, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Moved to Ineligible: B'nai B'rith (maintenance)
Omitted: Claudius (ineligible—maintenance); Knights Templar (ineligible—maintenance); Georgia Institute of Technology
Included: Siege of Port Royal (1710) (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Battle of Queenston Heights (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Treaty of Kars (3rd appearance, last in 2013)
Repeats: Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Paddington Bear (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 23:55, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Pietro Badoglio (maintenance)
Omitted: Siege of Port Royal (1710); Battle of Queenston Heights; Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn; Treaty of Kars; Paddington Bear (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Knights Templar (9th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Georgia Institute of Technology (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Miracle of the Sun (7th appearance, last in 2014; 100th anniversary); Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough (first appearance); 2013 Madhya Pradesh stampede (first appearance); Iyasu I (first appearance); Lillie Langtry (first appearance); Walter Houser Brattain (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 15:44, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

New articles (ineligible): Kim Dae-jung (maintenance)
Omitted: Knights Templar; Georgia Institute of Technology; Miracle of the Sun; Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough (ineligible—maintenance); 2013 Madhya Pradesh stampede; Iyasu I; Lillie Langtry; Walter Houser Brattain
Included: First conflict of the Goguryeo–Tang War (first appearance); Whirlpool Galaxy (6th appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn (4th appearance, last in 2016); Treaty of Kars (4th appearance, last in 2016); Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 (4th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Mariotto Albertinelli (first appearance); Isaac Brock (first appearance); Antonio Berni (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 02:02, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

New articles (ineligible): Defense of the Cutter Eagle (was on DYK 2019-04-13)
New articles (unused): Trevor Hoffman
Omitted: First conflict of the Goguryeo–Tang War; Whirlpool Galaxy; Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn; Treaty of Kars; Mariotto Albertinelli; Isaac Brock; Antonio Berni
Included: Knights Templar (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Siege of Port Royal (1710) (4th appearance, last in 2016); B'nai B'rith (10th appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Miracle of the Sun (8th appearance, last in 2017); Rudolf Virchow (first appearance); Jackie Ronne (first appearance; 100th birthday); Jamal Khashoggi (first appearance)
Repeats: Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 20:11, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Deleted: Mariotto Albertinelli (moved to November 5)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Georgia Tech
New articles (unused): Margaret Travers Symons
Omitted: Knights Templar; Siege of Port Royal (1710); B'nai B'rith; Miracle of the Sun; Rudolf Virchow; Jackie Ronne; Jamal Khashoggi
Included: First conflict of the Goguryeo–Tang War (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 1375th anniversary); Defense of the cutter Eagle (first appearance); 2013 Madhya Pradesh stampede (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Robert I, Count of Flanders (first appearance); Leon Leonwood Bean (first appearance); Paul Potts (first appearance; 50th birthday)
Repeats: Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 (3rd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:32, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

New articles (ineligible): Raymond Pace Alexander (TFA for 2021-09-15)
New articles (unused): Brigid Kosgei
Omitted: First conflict of the Goguryeo–Tang War; First conflict of the Goguryeo–Tang War; Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571; 2013 Madhya Pradesh stampede; Robert I, Count of Flanders; Leon Leonwood Bean; Paul Potts
Included: Whirlpool Galaxy (7th appearance, last in 2018); B'nai B'rith (11th appearance, last in 2019); Treaty of Kars (5th appearance, last in 2018; 100th anniversary); Louis Rwagasore (first appearance; 60th anniversary); Rudolf Virchow (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 200th birthday); Lillie Langtry (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Antonio Berni (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 40th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:03, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes

Khashoggi should be noted as "(d. 2018)" rather than "(b. 1958)".

Leefeni^{aures audiendi audiat} 16:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He was born October 13, 1958 Bumbubookworm (talk) 23:24, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]