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1470 - Richard Neville, the Earl of Warwick, restored Henry VI to the British throne during the Wars of the Roses.

It should say English throne - there was no Britain in 1470. SoLando (Talk) 03:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for pointing this out. -- PFHLai 07:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mischief Night in Ireland[edit]

Does the link mean all of the island of Ireland (which includes Northern Ireland), or should it link to the Republic of Ireland? Green caterpillar (talk) 02:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

Deleted: Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick (moved to October 2)
Moved to Ineligible: Armistice of Mudros (too short); Bosphorus Bridge (maintenance)
Omitted: Tran Thu Do; George I of Greece; Michael Woodruff; Tsar Bomba; Madrid Conference of 1991; Quebec referendum, 1995
Included: Banquet of Chestnuts (first appearance); Capitulation of Stettin (first appearance); German submarine U-559 (first appearance); Argentine general election, 1983 (first appearance); Greysteel massacre (first appearance)

All five articles making their OTD debuts! —howcheng {chat} 05:48, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thevar Jayanthi is now cleaned up, no more barelinks and deadlinks, so it could be readded. --Soman (talk) 14:57, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notice. It's now back in. Good work! —howcheng {chat} 18:23, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Rudd Concession (TFA for 2013)
Omitted: Capitulation of Stettin; German submarine U-559
Included: Tran Thu Do (3rd appearance, last in 2011); George I of Greece (8th appearance, last in 2011; 150th anniversary); Bosphorus Bridge (2nd appearance, last in 2008; rescued from Ineligible; 40th anniversary)
Repeats: Argentine general election, 1983 (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 30th anniversary); Greysteel massacre (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:49, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In Complete Annals of Great Viet, Ly Hue Tong died in 10 of eighth month of year Bingxu in Chinese Calendar (3 September 1226), not on this day, 10 of eighth month not 8 of tenth month.--113.168.190.16 (talk) 07:13, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): White shift dress of Jean Shrimpton
Omitted: Trần Thủ Độ (ineligible—date not certain); Bosphorus Bridge; Argentine general election, 1983; Greysteel massacre
Included: Capitulation of Stettin (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Rudd Concession (first appearance); Tsar Bomba (8th appearance, last in 2011); Madrid Conference of 1991 (5th appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: George I of Greece (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:11, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Armistice of Mudros; The Rumble in the Jungle
Omitted: George I of Greece; Tsar Bomba; Madrid Conference of 1991
Included: The War of the Worlds (radio drama); White shift dress of Jean Shrimpton (first appearance; 50th anniversary); Quebec referendum, 1995 (5th appearance, last in 2011; 20h anniversary)
Repeats: Capitulation of Stettin (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Rudd Concession (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:39, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Omitted: Rudd Concession; The War of the Worlds (radio drama); White shift dress of Jean Shrimpton; Quebec referendum, 1995
Included: Henry VII of England (first appearance); October Manifesto (first appearance; blurb previously featured 1905 Russian Revolution, which is currently ineligible, and last appeared in 2006); Michael Woodruff (6th appearance, last in 2011); Madrid Conference of 1991 (6th appearance, last in 2014; 25th anniversary)
Repeats: Capitulation of Stettin (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 18:24, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: German submarine U-559 (maintenance); Bosphorus Bridge (maintenance); The Rumble in the Jungle (maintenance); Quebec referendum, 1995 (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Jayuya Uprising
Omitted: Henry VII of England (ineligible—maintenance); October Manifesto; Michael Woodruff; Madrid Conference of 1991
Included: Rudd Concession (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Armistice of Mudros (first appearance); Tsar Bomba (9th appearance, last in 2014); Argentine general election, 1983 (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Hieronymus van Beverningh (first appearance); Adelaide Anne Procter (first appearance); Hilja Riipinen (first appearance)
Repeats: Capitulation of Stettin (4th consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:42, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Colectiv nightclub fire (maintenance)
Omitted: Capitulation of Stettin; Rudd Concession; Tsar Bomba; Argentine general election, 1983; Hieronymus van Beverningh; Adelaide Anne Procter; Hilja Riipinen
Included: Henry VII of England (2nd appearance, last in 2016); George I of Greece (10th appearance, last in 2014); The War of the Worlds (radio drama) (5th appearance, last in 2015; 80th anniversary); Greysteel massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 25th anniversary); André Chénier (first appearance); William H. Webb (first appearance); Florence Nagle (first appearance; 30th birthday)
Repeats: Armistice of Mudros (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 100th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:32, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: October Manifesto (maintenance); Tsar Bomba (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (maintenance); Louise Woodward case (maintenance; moved from October 31)
Omitted: Henry VII of England; George I of Greece; Armistice of Mudros; The War of the Worlds (1938 radio drama); Greysteel massacre; André Chénier; William H. Webb; Florence Nagle
Included: Capitulation of Stettin (6th appearance, last in 2017); Rudd Concession (4th appearance, last in 2017); Jayuya Uprising (first appearance); White shift dress of Jean Shrimpton (2nd appearance, last in 2015); Angelica Kauffman (first appearance); Ignace Bourget (first appearance); Gustav Ludwig Hertz (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:18, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Henry VII of England (maintenance)
Omitted: Rudd Concession; White shift dress of Jean Shrimpton; Angelica Kauffman; Ignace Bourget; Gustav Ludwig Hertz
Included: Michael Woodruff (7th appearance, last in 2016; 60th anniversary); Greysteel massacre (4th appearance, last in 2018); Giovanni Pietro Francesco Agius de Soldanis (2nd appearance, last in 2018; also appeared on January 30, his death anniversary); António Cabreira (first appearance); Jam Master Jay (first appearance)
Repeats: Capitulation of Stettin (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total); Jayuya Uprising (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 70th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 17:12, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder why Mischief Night isn't listed for this day[edit]

Tonight is Mischief Night and I do not know why this occasion was removed. The occasion originated in Britain. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 17:54, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

Omitted: Capitulation of Stettin; Jayuya Uprising; Michael Woodruff; Greysteel massacre; Giovanni Pietro Francesco Agius de Soldanis (deleted—moved back to original day); António Cabreira; Jam Master Jay
Included: George I of Greece (11th appearance, last in 2018); Rudd Concession (5th appearance, last in 2019); Armistice of Mudros (3rd appearance, last in 2018); The War of the Worlds (1938 radio drama) (6th appearance, last in 2018); Madrid Conference of 1991 (7th appearance, last in 2016; 30th anniversary); Adelaide Anne Procter (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Günther von Kluge (first appearance); Florence Nagle (2nd appearance, last in 2018)

—howcheng {chat} 07:13, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]