Wikipedia talk:Twinkle

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Twinkle didn't write filename in FFD listing

See Special:Diff/1234934762, Twinkle didn't write the filename there for some reason. Jonteemil (talk) 22:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Dark mode feedback from mw:Reading/Web/Accessibility_for_reading/Reporting/en.wikipedia.org

Tracked in github.com
Issue #1979

Posting feedback we received about the new Vector 2022 dark mode: "Twinkle drop down menus unreadable in dark mode When using the Twinkle gadget for tasks such as warning vandals, I have observed that, with dark mode enabled, the text in drop down menus is nearly unreadable as the text colour has changed to white but the background colour of the dropdown has remained the same white colour. " 🐸 Jdlrobson (talk) 20:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I wrote a patch to fix the warn module just now. (Not deployed yet.) I may work on other modules as time permits. –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Deployed. –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Request: Widen name box in the XFD menu for CFD/S and CFD

Tracked in github.com
Issue #1984

I nominate a lot of pages for speedy renaming at WP:CFD/S, almost always using Twinkle to do so. A lot of what I do is fixing capitalizations or making adjustments based on the existing title, but it almost always features pasting to try to avoid making mistakes. When I paste a title into the "new name" box I'll often have to move left and right in the box to make the changes I want, which makes it easier for me to make mistakes or miss things. Given that the new name box takes up less than half of the width of the window, I'd like to ask that it be stretched out farther. An example that I'm just about to nominate is "Ministers of Water Management of the Netherlands", after pasting, gets cut off to show "r Management of the Netherlands". I know this doesn't seem like much, but it would be a HUGE QoL improvement for me. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Is it not possible to start a requested move with Twinkle?

That is one of the most basic feature not integrated into the tool. Neocorelight (Talk) 03:13, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

It's in TW -> XFD. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Oh, it's hidden there. I didn't think of that. Neocorelight (Talk) 04:28, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Adding Redirect Cat Causes Double Redirect

Where do I report an error in trying to add a redirect category to an existing redirect using the Tag button?

I tried to add the {{R with possibilities}} tag to a redirect, and it created a second empty redirect shell. The original redirect had been Special:Permalink/1210632744. When I tried to add the additional category, using the Tag button, it applied this diff: Special:Diff/1237443069. As can be seen, it moved the existing redirects into a new shell, leaving an empty shell. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

When you say "double redirect", are you referring to the issue described at WP:2R? I haven't heard the phrase used in any other sense before. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Those links don't work. Nardog (talk) 01:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Revision history at top of page no longer updates

I've tried purging the page, deleting my temporary files on my computer, disabling/enabling Twinkle again, does nothing to refresh the revision counter. This has been going on for me since last night. I figured restarting my computer today would fix it but that also did not help. Salmoonlight (talk) 18:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Can you provide a url to an example page? What should I look for to see the bug? –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

It's for every page. Salmoonlight (talk) 19:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I cant recall ever seeing "Twinkle revision history at top of every page". Can you please provide more details? –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:52, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Uploaded a screenshot, I'm sorry if this isn't actually a feature of Twinkle and it's actually from some other tool. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Twinkle_stats.png Salmoonlight (talk) 19:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the screenshot. Thats the xtools gadget. Is it ticked in Special:Preferences -> gadgets -> xtools? –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Dark mode compatibilty

Tracked in github.com
Issue #1979

I used the AFD functionality of Twinkle today, and with dark mode enabled I was barely able to use the form because of some light-grey-on-white text. There are some official recommendations for fixes at mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis. Usually I find either picking mode-sensitive colors from the official palette or using class="skin-invert" does the job. -- Beland (talk) 06:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

I converted the warn module a week or two ago. Myself or someone else needs to convert all the other modules now. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

A potential tweak if within our rules

Tracked in github.com
Issue #1988

When an editor is indeffed and can take no action, Twinkle still notifies them of AfD, CSD, etc. That seems a difficult thing to receive, and is probably pointless. If it is within our rules, please can Twinkle at least have an option not to post the user advisory message when the editor it would notify is indeffed? 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

This has come up a couple times this year, with me and Primefac often opposing, and others supporting, but too low participation to get a good consensus. Might be time to RFC it to get more participation. Taking away an editor's right to be notified of their articles getting deleted feels like a big deal to me so I am hesitant to change the status quo without a consensus. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

At the very least it seems it should be rate limited. It feels not great to see a blocked user suddenly get 20 notifications of article deletions, it looks very much like rubbing salt in a wound. CMD (talk) 09:44, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Just noting that one can turn off the "notify page creator" box when nominating a page (though if the page is PRODded a bot will notify them anyway). Primefac (talk) 10:36, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

@Primefac And I never noticed it previously. Thank you.

A tweak that would be unlikely to need consensus might be a message "The editor who will be notified is blocked indefinitely and can take no action, are you sure you wish to notify them? If not please choose This option ->>>>" to highlight the option. I doubt I am alone in failing to spot it. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:30, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

"User is blocked" would fit better in the space given. Primefac (talk) 12:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm not wedded to any particular words 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 14:26, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

@Novem Linguae I agree that such a change would require consensus were it to change the default state. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I also oppose this. Indeffed users get unblocked sometimes and there's no harm in the user getting talk page notifications about it. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

I somewhat agree to this, for example, some LTAs in proxies that I have been dealing with don't really need those long warnings as they will never read them. However, it does concern me that some users will not use this function appropriately.

I did notice the Speedy template says ": Please consider placing the template: XXXX on the talk page of the author.", in which Twinkle already does. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 14:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Maybe just letting the twinkle user know someone is blocked could be a good compromise. https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/1988 –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I see your point. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 15:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd just like to comment that this doesn't always work. I've unchecked it before in cases involving SPAs and obvious public relations article creators, but resulted in a bot intervening and leaving an automated notification on the creator's talk. Courtesy ping to @Timtrent:. Graywalls (talk) 18:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Template:Uw-blank1

My Twinkle doesn't have these template, I have not seen any Twinkle users using this template as well, so does Twinkle use this template or not? The notice starting with If you plan to make breaking changes to this template... exists on uw-blank1 and uw-blank2, should it be removed? Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 14:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:List of policies should be in Twinkle welcome messages

This is a very useful summary of our policies. I've seen at least one case today where an editor could have avoided problems if whatever welcome they had linked to this. Doug Weller talk 10:53, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I think this might be something to discuss on the welcome templates talk pages (or a central WikiProject if there is one); Twinkle just places the notifications, it doesn't control or maintain them. Primefac (talk) 10:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree 100% (I come from here). JacktheBrown (talk) 11:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)