Wikipedia talk:Walled garden

Wikisquatting?

According to the information at http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WalledGarden, this article on Walled Gardens appears rather to be discussing Wikisquatting. Nivaca 07:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Moved to project space

This was not appropriate for mainspace, as an article on a wiki matter of peripheral importance and with no incoming links from other articles. A general article on walled gardens on the web might be possible, but I haven't created one as this is totally unreferenced and smells like original research. --kingboyk 15:55, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

WP itself a walled garden?

I notice that there is a strong tendancy not to have direct links to outside sites, especially within articles. Think about how different this is though from other websites you go to that have lots of links moving on and off their span of control. but we tend to restrict it to the references and sometimes a tiny section of external links, but not just normal links in context like with a wikilink. and sometimes we don't even have the best page on something. Not saying this is wrong, just something that has some tradeoff.TCO (talk) 02:53, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

You have a point there.. Even MOS:APPENDIX recommends the placement of the See also section above all other appendices containing external links in order to keep readers 'within' Wikipedia as they progress to the links at the end of an article. But I disagree that this is different from other websites.. I would think that any website has a vested interest in keeping viewers at their site or at least to begin browsing at their site, whether the purpose be to provide encyclopedic educational content, or to be a portal of entertaining links towards other sites, but I think this is probably a discussion for a forum separate from the topic of this type of walled garden scenario anyways. -- œ^™ 10:26, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Essay being misused

While this essay is correct, it is so vague it is being used to claim that a number of Biographies from a group of scholars who associate through several of the same organizations are themselves a "walled garden" even though they are at different universities, have different specialities, etc. etc. They keep treating this essay as policy. See this talk page discussion Talk:Murray_Rothbard#Two_.22Austrian_economist.22_sources_personally_connected_to_Rothbard. This essay is being used as an excuse to delete WP:RS material not only from these individuals but from outside academics and insert WP:OR material.

However, these editors think it is perfectly fine to use material from members of the alleged walled garden if they are good for criticizing the individual or making the point the editors want to make. Just one of multiple examples I could give you is here: Talk:Murray_Rothbard#Replacing_WP:RS_sourcing_with_personal_WP:OR. So I think we need to add some text disabusing these editors of this false idea. User:Carolmooredc 05:58, 3 August 2013 (UTC)Jimgettman (talk) 17:23, 26 July 2019 (UTC)typos

I see my Bold attempt to start discussion was reverted here by a user who doesn't understand this is an essay, not policy. Anyway, will bring editors from elsewheres if don't get response here from people who understand it's an essay. User:Carolmooredc 22:01, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Notable examples

Are there any notable examples of a walled garden? Any examples of a spontaneous walled garden?--Nowa (talk) 14:02, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Size of the walled garden

What would a reasonable minimum number of entries for a wiki walled garden be - and would this depend upon the nature of the group and the interrelation between entries (eg ring, 'string art', or palm leaf)? Jackiespeel (talk) 15:50, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Are Templates walled gardens?

Are templates walled gardens? All of the articles link to each other. Below are just a sample of them.

• Template:William Merritt Chase
• Template:Robert Louis Stevenson
• Template:Monterey County tourist attractions
• Template:California Historical Landmarks in Santa Clara County
• Template:Salinas River
• Template:Hugo Award Best Novel

Greg Henderson (talk) 23:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Detecting walled gardens?

Has any kind of tool been made that might aid in finding walled gardens? Such a thing feels like it would be exceptionally useful, given they're not very easy to detect compared to orphans and dead ends. Disgustedorite (talk) 23:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)