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Errors 553, 554 555, 562 & 565 have same head text

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Errors 553, 554 555, 562 & 565 contain same text: error_5xx_head_xxwiki=<nowiki> tags END in Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/Translation. Its confusing unless you read corresponding error_5xx_desc_xxwiki=. Keeping @NicoV in loop. రుద్రుడు (talk) 07:20, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi రుద్రుడు. FYI, errors 5xx are pure WPCleaner, they're not handled at all by checkwiki project.

All these errors are about nowiki tags, but different situations, so needing a really different code, that's why I split them. I voluntarily used the same short description so that they're merged in the comment generated by WPCleaner. You can use different short description if you want on your wiki, WPCleaner will simply add the description of each in the edit comment when they are concerned. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 07:42, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

er#69 isbn with incorrect syntax on svg file

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on kn:ಅಂತರಾಷ್ಟ್ರೀಯ ದರ್ಜೆಯ ಪುಸ್ತಕ ಸಂಖ್ಯೆ it shows error for | image = EAN-13-ISBN.svg రుద్రుడు (talk) 05:25, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi రుద్రుడు. Does it happen only in WPCleaner, or also on checkwiki ?

There's no way for the tools to know this template parameter is a file name, so it checks also for ISBN syntax there and reports a false positive. You can configure a whitelist page like enwiki (parameter error_069_whitelistpage_enwiki and the list) if you want to remove it from the detection, or otherwise, simply ignore it. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 12:35, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

use of break tag in wikitable

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Perhaps, this is one kind of thousand, but i found use of break tag in wikitable. ex: section "ಟಿಕೆಟ್ ದರಗಳು" on ಪುಣೆ ಮೆಟ್ರೊ. Just bringing to your attention. రుద్రుడు (talk) 09:40, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi రుద్రుడు. Yes, break tags are valid syntax for wiki pages. What is the problem ? --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 12:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Bots can not cope with <noinclude> tag

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noted message v2.05b - Bot T19 CW#83 - Fix errors for CW project (Heading start with three "=" and later with level two) undo Tag: WPCleaner on page that had subclusion text I was monitoring and sure enough bot had created mess in the master page which was easy to correct for me but perhaps not others.

Apologies if known issue but can not read back through lots of talk pages. Current bot logic can not detect case where a subcluded portion of a page might have a higher level heading in noinclude tag after the part to be subcluded which for this reason has lower level headings. Issue in this case created by a best practice attribution heading because some of current subcluded text contributed over the years on master page. I have got around this feature by using trim template and its #section-h functionality and creating higher level heading first in a noinclude section and such read better so no harm. However some human editors might not understand the noinclude directives used to get around this bot behaviour and so remove them and will not know of such templates so create such pages for simple subclusion. I also note that bots do not read inline comments with artificial intelligence yet so minor heading issues may continue in subcluded pages at random.ChaseKiwi (talk) 19:15, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi ChaseKiwi. Sorry, I didn't see your message earlier.

I've modified WPCleaner to avoid applying fixes for CW#83 on pages with either includeonly, noinclude or onlyinclude tags.

Ping me if the problem is still happening. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 20:51, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Great, should help other editors not aware of trim template functionality ChaseKiwi (talk) 09:02, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Add meta ?

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Hi @Bamyers99. Is it possible to add meta to the list of wikis supported by checkwiki ? Some time ago, I created a translation file on my user subpages, meta:User:NicoV/WCW/Translation, I can move it somewhere else if it's more practical. NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 12:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

@NicoV: Meta has been added here. --Bamyers99 (talk) 13:46, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 13:54, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Bamyers99. Just to report a false positive on CW#31 (HTML table element) that reports several thousand pages: it reports <tr which matches <translate> a widely used tag on meta. I will disable this detection on meta, so no problem if no modification done on checkwiki. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 19:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

@NicoV: Fixed. --Bamyers99 (talk) 17:46, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

checkwiki on zhwiki

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Translation of checkwiki page was moved WikiProject:错误检查/翻译, it'S seems that the program can't read the setting. Please recheck, thanks. Willy1018(talk) 12:13, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

@Willy1018: It has now been updated. --Bamyers99 (talk) 17:00, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

@Willy1018: Done also for WPCleaner configuration. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 08:07, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

CW#67 (reference after punctuation) false positive

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Hi @Bamyers99. I'm trying to improve my bot for automatically fixing as much as possible for CW#67, and I've just found some false positives : when a ; is before a reference, it may not be as a punctuation but as a HTML named character, like in Liste des grandes cavités pseudokarstiques with Pozzo dei Sogni&nbsp;<ref name=avant1992 />. NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 10:04, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

And similar problem with HTML numerical characters, like here, 2 en [[Départements d'outre-mer|outre-mer]]&#8203;<ref group="Note" name="OM" />. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 10:14, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

And similar problem with ; used at the beginning of a line, like here. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 10:27, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@NicoV: It will now ignore HTML entities and punctuation at the beginning of a line. --Bamyers99 (talk) 19:21, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 11:23, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Question on CW#67 (reference after punctuation)

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Hi @Bamyers99. Just a question on CW#67 configuration. Currently on frwiki, we have configured abbreviations like p. to avoid detecting p.<ref...>, but it also avoids detecting things like beaucoup.<ref...>. Is there a way to properly configure CW#67 to handle this situation? Thanks. NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 09:39, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@NicoV: It will now check for a word boundary (regex \b) at the beginning of the abbreviation. --Bamyers99 (talk) 19:19, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot ! --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 11:23, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Bamyers99. Thanks a lot but this change introduces some false positives for frwiki: we have voluntarily decided to ignore punctuations ! and ? because they yield too much false positives, so we've added them as abbreviations in CW#67 configuration. The whitespace before the exclamation mark or the question mark is not counted as a word boundary, so articles like Ahantas or Alain Goffin are now reported while they were previously ignored. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 11:37, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@NicoV: Fixed. --Bamyers99 (talk) 12:46, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 06:29, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Joining Checkwiki

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I frequently hop on Wikipedia and fix small error in articles. I would like to know how I can join Checkwiki and start making edits.

Thanks, ItsCheck (talk) 00:49, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi ItsCheck and welcome. I think the best way is to install a tool that helps fix errors, like WPCleaner (but I'm partial as I'm its author...), and start tackle errors with it. If you see problems (false positives...), or if you're unsure of what to do for some situations, you can ask. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 11:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi NicoV. I am not interested in joining Checkwiki anymore. Thank you for the offer. ItsCheck (talk) 16:53, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Category:Module:Wd reference errors

For anyone with Wikidata knowledge there's now a category tracking reference errors caused by incorrect setup data. As I understand it the main issue is usually that the reference has a missing title value. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 19:24, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

itwikiquote

Hi, could you please include itwikiquote in the Check Wikipedia tools? I have created the it:q:Wikiquote:WikiProjekt Check Wikipedia/Translation page. GryffindorD (talk) 09:49, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

@GryffindorD: itwikiquote has been added here. --Bamyers99 (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

@Bamyers99 You could put the translation page in "Translation page" and the "No data" in "Local page"? Thank you and sorry for the trouble. GryffindorD (talk) 17:04, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

@GryffindorD: I made a mistake in the configuration. This has been fixed and the dump scan has been rerun. Any tasks marked as done will have been reset to not done. --Bamyers99 (talk) 18:49, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Add "Wikiquote:Elenchi generati offline/Check Wikipedia" in "Local page." Thank you! GryffindorD (talk) 06:18, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

@GryffindorD: Done. --Bamyers99 (talk) 13:12, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Mistaken ISSN

https://checkwiki.toolforge.org/cgi-bin/checkwiki.cgi?project=enwiki&view=only&id=107 is claiming the article Carmel College, Thornlands contains a mistaken ISSN not featuring exactly 8 digits. Indeed, it doesn't: instead, the article briefly mentions an event titled QISSN that the bot is mistakenly flagging. Is there any way to manually remove this from the error list so it won't be listed again, or even better set the scanner to ignore "ISSNs" that are directly preceded by other letters? 2603:8001:4542:28FB:C42A:86EF:90BA:97A3 (talk) 00:57, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I wrapped it in {{notatypo}}, which usually fixes edge cases like this. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:16, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

dewiki Last dump 2018-11-01

 Resolved Moin Moin together and Moin Bamyers99, when I open the mainpage of CheckWikipedia I can easily see, that the last full dump for dewiki is now five years old. From the last time I asked for a new, I remember difficults in the setup from this. So I wanted to asked, if it will be possible to setup a newer full dump for dewiki because of nearly 500.000 new articles in it and many changed templates. Bamyers99 what do you think, is it possible? King regards --Crazy1880 (talk) 08:52, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@Crazy1880: I will look into running the dump scan after the November 1st regular dump scans are complete. --Bamyers99 (talk) 23:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, it will help ;) Regards --Crazy1880 (talk) 17:03, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Moin Bamyers99, do you have a status for me? Regards --Crazy1880 (talk) 06:07, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@Crazy1880: Based on last months dump scans, it takes until the 12th for the regular dump scans to finish. I will start the dewiki dump scan when those are finished. --Bamyers99 (talk) 14:09, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Moin Bamyers99, thank, got ya, it helps me to understand how it works ;) Regards --Crazy1880 (talk) 17:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@Crazy1880: The dump scan is done. I modified the dump scan so that it added the errors it found to the daily scans for rechecking. That way any dump scan found errors that had already been fixed would not be reported again. --Bamyers99 (talk) 20:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Moin Bamyers99, really thanks a lot for the update, it will help, i saw that the last days already. ;) King regards --Crazy1880 (talk) 05:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

error #43 on frwiki

Hello
For some days we have on frwiki some errors #43, all related to {clade} model. (today's list).
When looking, I don't see anything wrong. Could you tell me what I'm missing ?
Thanks. Croquemort Nestor (talk) 09:38, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Is it related to checkwiki.pl - limit number template end not found errors ? --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 09:43, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

@Croquemort Nestor: I had limited the nested template check to 10 templates deep to reduce the processing for articles with many unterminated templates (caused by a malfunctioning bot). I have increased the limit to 25 nested templates deep. --Bamyers99 (talk) 19:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Good morning. No change : we still have 15 errors #43 related to {clade} today. Croquemort Nestor (talk) 06:34, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi Bamyers99. Maybe, it shouldn't report an error if there are more templates than the limit ? --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 07:01, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks. Croquemort Nestor (talk) 06:08, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

#11

For error id #11, HTML entities, it'd be neat if the list was on all Wikis (SKWiki lacks it, for example), together with the HTML entities. I've never seen some of these, I don't know what they are and what to look for in the code, so a full list of both HTML/Unicode would be quite nice. KormiSK (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

@KormiSK: The descriptions are configured on the translation page. Search for error_011_desc_skwiki=. Feel free to change the description. --Bamyers99 (talk) 23:24, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

#41

Errors such as #41, HTML text style element <big> (description on SKWiki only partial), do not say what the new solution should be. This error links to WP:HTML5#Big, which does not exist, so no alternative is actually given. This tag is also normally used by both Source and Visual editors, so I'm not sure what the alternate to this tag even is. KormiSK (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

@KormiSK: Example: <span style="font-size: 150%;">...</span> --Bamyers99 (talk) 23:34, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Time out

Hello ! There is a "Webservice request timed out" message since this morning - french time. Croquemort Nestor (talk) 08:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Moin Moin Bamyers99, in the german too. Regards --Crazy1880 (talk) 09:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Croquemort Nestor, Crazy1880, and Msz2001: It has been restarted and is back up. --Bamyers99 (talk) 14:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks ! Croquemort Nestor (talk) 14:09, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot ;) Regards --Crazy1880 (talk) 16:46, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Removal of whitespace between lines

@Rich Smith: removed style="margin-bottom:1ex;" from br tags on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Four_Burglars&diff=prev&oldid=1187696117 with the comment "v2.05 - Fix errors for CW project (Tag with incorrect syntax)".

Is this in your project guidelines? If so, that makes blocks of text harder to read; using normal paragraphs, on the other hand, results in too much whitespace. Can this guideline be changed?

Thanks,
cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 11:30, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

@Cmglee: Could use a List - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 20:12, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

A list indents text too much, unnecessarily lengthening the caption. Please compare the following. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 01:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

No whitespace	With margin-bottom	Using list
Explanation of the Four Burglars card trick with a deck of 12 cards (solid cards are face-up; hatched cards are of the hatch colour, face-down) 1. The four jacks (blue) are revealed, one having three dummy cards hidden beneath (green). 2. The jacks and dummy cards are gathered into a pile. 3. The pile is turned over and placed atop the deck. 4. The top card is placed at the bottom, the second about a third up, the third about two-thirds up and the fourth on top. 5. The top four cards are revealed to be jacks.	Explanation of the Four Burglars card trick with a deck of 12 cards (solid cards are face-up; hatched cards are of the hatch colour, face-down) 1. The four jacks (blue) are revealed, one having three dummy cards hidden beneath (green). 2. The jacks and dummy cards are gathered into a pile. 3. The pile is turned over and placed atop the deck. 4. The top card is placed at the bottom, the second about a third up, the third about two-thirds up and the fourth on top. 5. The top four cards are revealed to be jacks.	Explanation of the Four Burglars card trick with a deck of 12 cards (solid cards are face-up; hatched cards are of the hatch colour, face-down) The four jacks (blue) are revealed, one having three dummy cards hidden beneath (green). The jacks and dummy cards are gathered into a pile. The pile is turned over and placed atop the deck. The top card is placed at the bottom, the second about a third up, the third about two-thirds up and the fourth on top. The top four cards are revealed to be jacks.

Is there a way to see the source code behind the detection rules?

Is there a way to see the source code behind the detection rules? --Pawngpawng (talk) 21:41, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

@Pawngpawng: checkwiki.pl (GitHub) --Bamyers99 (talk) 21:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

#48

Errors id #48, Title linked in text, shows previews of pages with this error, but capitalizes the first letter in the shown example. That shouldn't be the case; the error recognizes things like [[title]], but shows them as [[Title]], which is misleading especially when trying to do it with PyWikiBot, for example. Might just learn how to use AWB instead, but it'd be neat in general if the preview matched the actual source text (in all errors, not just this one). KormiSK (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

@KormiSK: Fixed. The next dump scan will show the correct lettercase. --Bamyers99 (talk) 23:54, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

KormiSK, my bot is approved to run on those. I can fix them if you want. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:38, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

@Qwerfjkl: If your bot is globally approved, then yeah sure, why not. Although I've mostly fixed it on SKWiki myself recently, but you can definitely do that and ideally regularly as necessary. It'd be appreciated. :) KormiSK (talk) 21:30, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

KormiSK, sorry, it's only approved on enwiki. You could run the code if you want, it's not that hard to do. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

False positives for error #59?

Reposted with minor modifications from Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VulpesBot 3

It appears that the task that identifies error #59, br tag at the end of template parameter, has some false positives. Having never encountered this error flag before, I went to the Checkwiki page for error 59 and clicked on a page at random, 2015–16 Ulster Rugby season. That page has an error flagged as |lineup1 = '''Ulster lineup''':<br />, but the actual code on the page, which looks fine to me, is:

|lineup1 = '''Ulster lineup''':<br />
1. Callum Black, 2. Rory Best (c), 3. Wiehahn Herbst,<br />
4. Dan Tuohy, 5. Franco van der Merwe,<br />
6. Iain Henderson, 7. Chris Henry, 8. Nick Williams,<br />
9. Ruan Pienaar, 10. Paddy Jackson,<br />
11. Craig Gilroy, 12. Stuart McCloskey, 13. Darren Cave, 14. Andrew Trimble,<br />
15. Louis Ludik.<br />
Replacements:<br />
16. Rob Herring (for Van der Merwe 66'), 17. Kyle McCall (for Black 58'), 18. Ricky Lutton (for Herbst 70'),<br />
19. Robbie Diack (for Williams 66'), 20. Roger Wilson (for Henry 49'),<br />
21. Paul Marshall (for Pienaar 75'), 22. Ian Humphreys (for Jackson 70'), 23. Peter Nelson (for Ludik 73').
}}

The above appears to be valid, and renders fine. Removing the first br tag would change the rendered output in an undesirable way.

I then clicked on 2019 Women's PSA World Tour Finals, which has a br tag after "Qualification" that does not render unwanted whitespace. If the bot removed the br in that template, it would be a cosmetic edit, which is generally frowned upon.

Given that I was 0-for-2 in choosing articles listed in the report that demonstrated the usefulness of removing the identified br tag, and 1-for-2 in finding a removal that would make the page worse, should this flag be reevaluated and limited to cases in which it is actually a problem? – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:39, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: The 2015–16 Ulster Rugby season error #59 is currently showing lineup1 =...McCloskey''.<br /> in the Notice column. A live check of the article is showing the same thing. The extraneous br is at the end of the template value in a different template than the one shown above. It is being correctly reported. --Bamyers99 (talk) 16:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

I do not understand. Which "different template" has an extraneous br tag at the end of its value? I search through the whole article and did not find one. Also, how can lineup1 =...McCloskey''.<br /> in the Notice column be construed as "correctly reported" when removing that br tag would cause a problem be a cosmetic edit? How is it being "correctly reported" when the br tag shown in the report is not at the end of a template parameter value? Please help me understand. (Edited to add: I found it by searching again, but removal of this tag would be a cosmetic edit, I believe.)– Jonesey95 (talk) 18:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Update: I clicked on ten more random articles in the list, and I found zero problems. Removal of the trailing br, in each case, would be a cosmetic edit. Are there any actual cases in which this trailing br is a problem? – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:16, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

I did not write the bot or choose the errata that it reports. I only maintain the bot. CW Error #59 says it is not cosmetic, is a Syntax error and Causes whitespace errors. --Bamyers99 (talk) 18:35, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Should I change the documentation then? I see no evidence that it is not cosmetic. If there is anyone else who should be pinged and might be able to explain why it is marked as "not cosmetic", please let me know. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:01, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

If there's any update on this please ping me as well. Dr vulpes (Talk) 20:17, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

@Jonesey95 and @Bamyers99 I looked into this and updated my bot request over at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VulpesBot 3. Dr vulpes (Talk) 21:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

NicoV, do you have any information about the history of error #59? I have yet to find a case in which it causes a problem. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Jonesey95. No real information about the history of this error. When I joined the project, there were already a lot of errors that were coded, probably by the original developer (Stefan Kühn). I believe the intention is that the template should handle the line break if it is needed, not added by each usage of the template.

I looked at 2015–16 Ulster Rugby season and I don't understand why it is flagged : the line break is not at the end of the template parameter, but in the middle of it (as expected, WPCleaner doesn't report any problem, only if you had the line break at the end of the last line). Was there a change of code at some point that made this check reports too many cases ? @Bamyers99, any idea ? The code should only report line breaks when they are the end of the template parameter value. NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 11:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I have marked #59 as "cosmetic" until there is confirmation that it causes any problems. So far, editors here have looked at about 40 cases and have found none in which extra white space is created. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

#6 with AWB

I'd really like to tackle task 6 using AWB but am unsure how. It doesn't fall under the genfixes. Is there a regex floating around? How would I do it? —Panamitsu (talk) 10:55, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

The guidelines should help you figure out appropriate replacements for some of the errors. It looks like a few hundred of them have underscores instead of spaces. Dashes should be replaced with hyphens (in, for example, "DEFAULTSORT:Cross for the War of Independence 1821–29"). The "×" character should be replaced with "x" (in, for example, "DEFAULTSORT:FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2023 - Team large hill/4 × 5 km"). Those should be a trivial regex replacements. Once you have done those, the refreshed report should be more interesting. When I tested a sample of 200 pages, 156 of them had either _ or – characters. Fixing 3/4 of the report with three regexes would be great progress. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)