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Suburbs project[edit]

I notice that @Alexeyevitch has suggested we work on improving articles for the suburbs. I think this is a great idea. A while ago I updated the article for Redwood, Christchurch as that is where I live. Alexeyevitch has already nominated Southshore, New Zealand for GA.

If there is consensus support for making that a project we could create some templates or guidelines to speed along the work. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 22:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Related to this, I've noticed an inconsistent naming scheme for Suburbs of Christchurch articles. Some have a disambiguator of 'Christchurch' (such as Merivale, Christchurch, whereas others use 'New Zealand' (such as Southshore, New Zealand. I think we should move toward using 'Christchurch' as the disambiguator, as it is more specific and descriptive than using 'New Zealand'. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 22:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cloventt: The reason Southshore and Merivale have different disambiguators is because there are two articles for places named Merivale in New Zealand (the one in Christchurch, and the one in Tauranga). There is only one article for a place name for Southshore, so it is just disambiguated with "New Zealand". Take a look at WP:PLACEDAB, in particular the sentence Places are often disambiguated by the country in which they lie. If using the country name would still lead to ambiguity, use the name of a smaller administrative division (such as a state or province) instead. ―Panamitsu (talk) 00:27, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to actually be an established and quite specific convention under WP:NCNZ:
Disambiguation required for populated place – For populated places where confusion is likely with places outside New Zealand (including suburbs), then the format "Placename, New Zealand" is used (for example, Amberley, New Zealand).
Sad times. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 02:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would be eager to push more suburbs up to B-Class. Alexeyevitch(talk) 00:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Architecture[edit]

At a recent meetup @Giantflightlessbirds gave out some copies of Ōtautahi Christchurch Architecture: A Walking Guide by John Walsh.[1] This book covers seventy-nine notable buildings in Christchurch, and is up-to-date including some that are quite modern. The list is:

The buildings at UC could each just be a subsection under the Ilam campus.

This list is obviously not complete when compared to the List of historic places in Christchurch and Category:Buildings and structures in Christchurch. Perhaps a good start would be to re-ASSESS the existing articles in this list to identify ones that would most benefit from improvement.

References

  1. ^ Walsh, John (2023), "Ōtautahi Christchurch Architecture: A Walking Guide", Massey University Press (2nd ed.), Auckland, ISBN 9781991016386, archived from the original on 2024-05-07, retrieved 2024-05-30

David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 23:31, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would be happy to help create UC building pages! MitchellMatchbox (talk) 12:23, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Useful sources on Christchurch history[edit]

At the latest Christchurch meetup @Giantflightlessbirds brought along two books on Christchurch history that may be very useful resources for us:

Southern Capital is a very good collection of essays on Christchurch history by notable local historians and geographers:

  • Chapter 2, 9 and 10 are about the history of Ngāi Tahu and their relationship with the city.
  • Chapter 3 (Confronting Nature by Eric Pawson) covers the waterways, flood control and smog of Christchurch, which are topics I think @Marshelec had mentioned as important.
  • Chapter 4 (Outward and Upward by David McIntyre) would be useful for covering the town planning and urban sprawl of Christchurch, as well as the history of the architecture from neo-Gothic to Brutalist.
  • Chapters 7 and 8 by Jim McAloon cover the social structure of the city, both from the perspective of radical leftism and "elitist" land-owners.
  • Chapter 11 (A Geography of Governance by Peter Perry) would be very useful for @Schwede66's project on the history of local government amalgamations in Christchurch. I've also found out John Cookson has written a very thorough history on the subject, but has been struggling to secure a publisher.

David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 03:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would think that the three volumes in the History of Canterbury is the most relevant work, eg W. Harry Scotter (1965), A History of Canterbury : 1876–1950, vol. III, Wikidata Q104590311. Schwede66 07:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suburbs[edit]

We had a disscuson on suburbs in the recent meetup. I realized that it would be a lot easier to get articles up to B-Class or GA standard if there are multiple book sources relating to that area/suburb. Addington and Riccarton could reach a similar standard. I will prioritize the Southshore article at the moment. Alexeyevitch(talk) 09:42, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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