Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Weather/Possible F5/EF5/IF5 tornadoes

This is an organized place for discussions regarding the List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes' section for "possible F5/EF5/IF5 tornadoes". Each individual tornado has a section for discussions and notes. This page and these discussions began in June 2024 or later. NOTE This page contains a lot of sections. Be aware of that before proceeding.

General conversation & questions (Talk Page equivalent)

Doing a quick note here. So I started this page so we, as a community, can formally decide on the guidelines for the possible F5/EF5/IF5 tornadoes first and then after a consensus forms for that, discussing each of the tornadoes. Currently, each tornado has a subsection already made, but I have hidden them until we have a consensus for the chart guidelines first. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:06, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Has this page been abandoned or something? Because only three people including myself have actually replied on here. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 17:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Chart guidelines

Before beginning the process of assessing each tornado, the current consensus/directions for the charts is as follows:

1. The tornado was previously rated F5/EF5/IF5 or has been rated F5/EF5/IF5 by another scientist (preferably an academic publication)
2. The tornado caused damage assessed to be "possibly" F5/EF5/IF5. Potentially, a rating of F5/EF5/IF5 was considered
3. The tornado was assessed to "possibly" be F5/EF5/IF5 intensity. Statements of possible F5/EF5/IF5 intensity may come from mobile radar measurements.

Guideline consensus (Result:)

Do you support the above guidelines for the charts?

• Support – Yes, I support the above guidelines. A direct statement of either a rating of F5/EF5/IF5, possible F5/EF5/IF5 damage, including tornadoes where the rating was considered, and a direct statement of possible F5/EF5/IF5 (with "F5", "EF5", or "IF5" directly quoted) intensity. I do support those criteria. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:06, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

• Support – As per WeatherWriter’s rationale. But it must mention F5, EF5, IF5, or an equivalent thereof (in the sense of having possibly been at said intensity). West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 18:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

  I would like to add that if it mentions T-10 or T-11 on the TORRO scale, or an EF/JEF-5 on the Canadian/Japanese EF-scale, it should also be included. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 02:52, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

  Why is it that only me, WeatherWriter, and GeorgeMemulous reply on this thread?? West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 17:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support per all above - if tornadoes are known to have F5/IF5/EF5 intensity and it's not explicitly mentioned, however, I do believe there should be some validation process so that it's not instantly written off, perhaps verification online from experts via Twitter or public statements by request. As well, e-mails may come into debate, as a previous editor mentioned Perrysville 2017 as potentially producing EF5 damage (halted by NWS Paducah staff disagreements on the rating), and as the only source was an e-mail it may not stand on its own but should further be researched. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeMemulous (talk • contribs) 18:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)