Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-08-14/News and notes
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Hosting countries[edit]
"Locations since then have been in the Middle East, Europe, and North America." Argentina had one too! --190.134.84.121 (talk) 11:36, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- This has been fixed. Thanks! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:21, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Charles Mok[edit]
"There are also 461 mobile users" : In China ? Most unlikely. JoJan (talk) 13:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- I assume this was meant to say 461 million mobile users, but I'll leave it to someone more sure to change the article.-gadfium 18:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- gadfium, you're right. Thanks for noticing this! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:21, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Attendance[edit]
Do we know how many attended this year's conference? Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 15:03, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- Right in the first line—about a thousand. ;-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:21, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
non-keynotes[edit]
It is too bad that you focus here so strongly on the keynote sessions. While these are the only sessions that were attended by almost all attendees, it misrepresents imho the spirit of Wikimania - which is much less about the keynotes, and much more about 'normal' sessions on a range of topics. I would have expected that you would have at least lighted out a number of those, maybe the most juicy ones, or with the most surprising outcomes. Maybe something for next week? (warning: I was involved in two non-keynote sessions, so might be somewhat biased). effeietsanders 17:01, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
- Covering individual sessions is nearly impossible. For one, there are far too many of them. This article is already too long as it is. For two, there was no way we at the Signpost could attend all of them, and the videos won't be uploaded for some time. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:21, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Effeietsanders, I'm not sure you realize how time consuming it is to write Signpost articles. Ed has put many hours of his free time into writing these reports and I think we should thank him for what he has done. If you would like to write a report for the Signpost about the other sessions for next week I'm sure Ed would love to get an email from you. --Pine✉ 06:53, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- I wasn't suggesting to cover each one, but a selection of them. I wasn't even aware that Ed attended Wikimania himself - but I always thought the idea was to crowdsource the Signpost to an extent? This sounds like an excellent topic to crowdsource - ask people to describe their favorite sessions, what they learned and what outcomes there were and give an impression that way. I would be more than happy if that means less coverage of the keynote sessions by the way. Also, Pine, my remarks were certainly not to be taken as a personal criticism, but rather as constructive suggestions from someone who has attended quite a few Wikimanias and who feels this coverage doesn't cover the actual experience. The 'you' used was intended as plural, not singular (unfortunately English doesn't make that distinction). effeietsanders 08:43, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, my first response probably came off as stronger than I intended. :-) There is, of course, the option of crowdsourcing. For most sessions, this would be entirely uncontroversial. Then a declared and avowed opponent of the VisualEditor could report on the VisualEditor sessions, and I might not catch it. It's unfortunate that we can't cover them all, but the scope can only be so wide before casual readers lose interest. That's not to say that I or anyone who writes it can't include some sessions next year, though (or put out a call for individual blogs to cover the sessions, where we could link to them). Thank you for the feedback.
- My preferred option would be linking to the videos themselves, but they take time to be uploaded. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 09:24, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- I wasn't suggesting to cover each one, but a selection of them. I wasn't even aware that Ed attended Wikimania himself - but I always thought the idea was to crowdsource the Signpost to an extent? This sounds like an excellent topic to crowdsource - ask people to describe their favorite sessions, what they learned and what outcomes there were and give an impression that way. I would be more than happy if that means less coverage of the keynote sessions by the way. Also, Pine, my remarks were certainly not to be taken as a personal criticism, but rather as constructive suggestions from someone who has attended quite a few Wikimanias and who feels this coverage doesn't cover the actual experience. The 'you' used was intended as plural, not singular (unfortunately English doesn't make that distinction). effeietsanders 08:43, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Effeietsanders, I'm not sure you realize how time consuming it is to write Signpost articles. Ed has put many hours of his free time into writing these reports and I think we should thank him for what he has done. If you would like to write a report for the Signpost about the other sessions for next week I'm sure Ed would love to get an email from you. --Pine✉ 06:53, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Wrong numbers in citation[edit]
There are two numbers wrong in this citation from Jimmy Wales' keynote: " there are now 28 million articles and 286 language editions, of which 120 have more than a thousand articles, 46 have more than ten thousand, and eight have more than a million." It should be: 120 have more than ten thousand articles, 46 have more than a hundred thousand. --Zeitlupe (talk) 13:48, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I must've missed a couple zeros in my notes. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 00:29, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- We're also up to 287 languages, but I think the latest one might've been added after Jimbo's speech [1]. Throw in a footnote, maybe? — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 03:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)