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The following is an automatically-generated compilation of all talk pages for the Signpost issue dated 2024-07-22. For general Signpost discussion, see Wikipedia talk:Signpost.

Crossword: Vaguely bird-shaped crossword (668 bytes · 💬)

This was the crossword I've enjoyed the most up to this point. I was almost completely able to fill it in, with the Robin being basically the only thing I'm fully stuck on! Very fun :) ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Stumped me on the same part! All the best: Rich Farmbrough 13:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC).

Discussion report: Internet users flock to Wikipedia to debate its image policy over Trump raised-fist photo (2,449 bytes · 💬)

Hi Svampesky, interesting story! One minor correction: The sentence "Wikipedia hosts its servers in the United States, placing it under US jurisdiction." expresses a widely-held, but actually incorrect belief about how internet law works. First, the server location is entirely irrelevant under internet law, and second, Wikipedia's servers are located around the globe (including the Netherlands, France, Singapore, and Brazil). My suggestion would be to say, "To protect the assets of the Wikimedia Foundation in the United States, the Wikipedia community adheres to US copyright law.", or something along these lines. --Gnom (talk) 10:56, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Partially implemented. I fixed the wording by essentially paraphrasing what's written in the link. Thanks. Svampesky (talk) 13:28, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Trump raised-fist photographs was created by Levivich, not Hallucegenia. Hallucegenia's version, initially at Photograph of Donald Trump after shooting, [1] was quickly redirected. Levivich independently created Trump raised fist photographs nearly ten hours later, and then, seeing an article had already been attempted, effectively history-merged Hallucegenia's attempt into his own. [2] The reason the two versions appear similar is that they both reused content from the main Attempted assassination of Donald Trump article. —Cryptic 13:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Not done – please clarify. The page about the photo was created by Hallucegenia, as the report says. Levivich created theirs ten hours after Hallucegenia, as you have confirmed in your comment. This is not about any page title, it's about the actual page which was created first by Hallucegenia. Svampesky (talk) 13:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Humour: Joe Biden withdraws RfA, Donald Trump selects co-nom (1,172 bytes · 💬)

There seems to be something wrong here, all the text is black and I can't read it. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 09:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

shocking news! Josethewikier (talk) 09:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

• Good one, lol xP The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
• I expected better :/ Neocorelight (Talk) 11:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
• Eyeglasses and finger guns! - UtherSRG (talk) 11:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
• Redacted! kencf0618 (talk) 11:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

I can't read it. Maybe I need new Wikipedian Glasses? The Master of Hedgehogs ^{(converse) (hedgehogs)} 14:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

In the media: What's on Putin's fork, the court's docket, and in Harrison's book? (1,097 bytes · 💬)

• Obviously she has never read the articles - huh? TrangaBellam (talk) 10:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Whoops! From the X photo it should be "He". Good catch. I'll change "she" to "Hussain" (to avoid any confusion with "Trump"). And "obviously" is probably not the best word, the only thing obvious here is that different people have different views on what is the most amazing article. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 12:54, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
• There are different spellings in the article — ruwiki and ruviki. Also, it's funny that the main fork, the one that was started by former Wikipedia admins before Ruwiki was even announced, is almost never mentioned in the various articles about Wikipedia forks. BilboBeggins (talk) 14:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

News and notes: Wikimedia community votes to ratify Movement Charter; Wikimedia Foundation opposes ratification (2,193 bytes · 💬)

• The turnout for the Movement Charter vote was roughly the same as for all three votes on the Universal Code of Conduct, yet now it's suddenly not enough? – Joe (talk) 09:49, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

• Fourteen years a content editor and this is the first time I have heard of the Movement Charter. My bad -- but given the sparsity of the vote it appears I'm not alone in my ignorance. I would appreciate a follow-up article with some irreverent opinions telling us what it's all about. Money, I presume, and power over money. Too much money, perhaps? I have two initial questions. There's the old saw that once an organization acquires adequate office space it has outlived its usefulness. Are the Movement Charter and the Code of Conduct signs that Wikipedia now has adequate office space? Secondly, what impact will the Movement Charter have on the important part of the English Wikipedia: content? Not much, I hope. For all the nonsense that goes on, I like the English Wikipedia the way it is. Don't fix something that isn't broken. Smallchief (talk) 11:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

  @Smallchief: There was a summary in the last Signpost. But yes, power over money is exactly right. It was an attempt to shift it from the WMF to a sort of three-way power sharing agreement between the WMF, affiliated organisations, and individual project contributors. I voted for it because I thought that it would increase the political power of the enwiki community and therefore enable us to direct more money towards improving our software and content. – Joe (talk) 12:18, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

  So what's the next move of the hoi polloi to get more control of the money? Smallchief (talk) 13:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)