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The following is an automatically-generated compilation of all talk pages for the Signpost issue dated 2024-09-04. For general Signpost discussion, see Wikipedia talk:Signpost.

Humour: Local man halfway through rude reply no longer able to recall why he hates other editor (951 bytes · 💬)

• HubertGlockenspiel42, my life-long nemesis. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 14:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
• I don't often read the humour section, but this one tickled me. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
• Do you recognize this behavior? Maybe you haven't thought about it in a long time, until this story jogged your memory and you're still not certain of the details, but the behavior of Glockenspiel does ring a bell. DMacks (talk) 15:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

In the media: AI is not playing games anymore. Is Wikipedia ready? (1,782 bytes · 💬)

• Forgive me, but under the third-to-last item, shouldn't that be Stephen Harrison? (As a fellow holder of the name I am always incredibly sensitive to correct spellings. :-) ) Also, as I recall, Lane Raspberry was also on the program. I tried to listen - WAMU is my hometown NPR station, after all - but as it was during the workday I wasn't able to get much. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

  You're quite right. I've corrected the author spelling. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

  Ironically, you misspelled Lane Rasberry's name, itself originating in an ancestral misspelling. :) Ijon (talk) 18:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Ijon: Hey, look, do I come in here and correct your spelling? Well...evidently I do, but that's beside the point.

  (This is what comes of freebasing when I should have my sources in front of me. *sigh* When will I learn?)*

  Apologies to all involved for the error.

  _{*Never. The answer is never.}

  --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

News and notes: WikiCup enters final round, MCDC wraps up activities, 17-year-old hoax article unmasked (3,030 bytes · 💬)

• "Long-lived hoax article removed: "Pratylenchus dulscus,"". Sigh. I've been saying this for years, but before we call something a hoax, we need to do due diligence. Where is a discussion confirming this is a hoax, i.e. intentional misinformation, and not just some typo or good-faithed mistake? I've been (slowly) providing some analysis for the 'false statements in articles' section of the Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia page; I haven't gotten to 'hoax articles' yet, but some are not hoaxes, just errors. Please read the definition of what a hoax is, folks, and don't assume that an error is a hoax. That "Pratylenchus dulscus" may be a hoax, or it may be some sort of a typo. We can't assume bad faith (intentional fabrification) per WP:AGF. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

  I wasn't involved in the write-up of this story, but [1] contains further information, to wit:

  • Editor Somanypeople created List of almond diseases in early 2007. On March 16 2007, the list of almond diseases was vandalized by an IP, replacing P. vulnus with P. dulscus (P. vulnus is supported by sources in the list). In the ensuing months, Somanypeople went on to create articles for species listed in the list of almond diseases, including Pratylenchus dulscus (apparently not being aware of the vandal's edit). An article was created for Pratylenchus in August 2007, which included P. dulscus in the list of species, presumably because Wikipedia had an article for it at that point. I'm going to remove the link to this article from the genus article and will restore a link to P. vulnus in the almond disease list.

  So it appears indeed that the article was not created as a hoax. Thanks for mentioning it. Andreas JN466 15:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

  I wrote the comment that is being quoted. I wouldn't call Pratylenchus dulscus a hoax myself. It was a sloppy good-faith creation that was ultimately rooted in vandalism. Meloidogyne gajuscus and Meloidogyne fruglia were two other 17 year "hoaxes" I found a few days later that were created in identical circumstances; Somanypeople created a list of plant diseases, it was vandalized, and Somanypeople then created articles for non-existent species based on the vandalism. Plantdrew (talk) 16:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

News from the WMF: Meet the 12 candidates running in the WMF Board of Trustees election (453 bytes · 💬)

Thanks to candidates, now go vote!

Thanks to all the candidates putting themselves forward. Readers, please take advantage of the materials provided (there's more on meta) and GO VOTE!

Smallbones_(smalltalk) 16:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Serendipity: What it's like to be Wikimedian of the Year (700 bytes · 💬)

Great read! I had no idea there were so many things going on at Wikimania! Reconrabbit 14:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

• Very good article! Congrats! —asparagusus (interaction) ^sprouts! 18:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Traffic report: After the gold rush (801 bytes · 💬)

• I can't describe how good it feels to see a month of traffic reports without the name of Donald Trump on the reports. There is hope for the world. Smallchief (talk) 14:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

  It is noteworthy that Walz and Harris (and her family member) appear a total of five times, and Trump and Vance collectively zero times. Plus the list-topping List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign endorsements in most frequently edited articles. Interesting. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)