Talk:Abide with Me

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Titanic tragedy[edit]

It is said that this song has been played by the band on the titanic while the ship sunk. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 149.225.0.158 (talk • contribs) .

  • That's what I've heard. However, according to the RMS Titanic article, the last song played by the ship's band is actually uncertain. While Abide With Me is not mentioned in the article, it does mention that the last song may have been Nearer, my God, to Thee. Andrew (My talk) 17:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign-language lyrics and copyright[edit]

I have removed foreign-language lyrics from the article and copied them here, because copyright information on them has not been provided yet. The original lyrics are in the public domain, so we can include them. For the others, I can't tell if they are copyrighted, because author names and year of publication have not been provided. Please copy each of these back to the article only if it is in the public domain or has a suitable free licence, and include enough information that will reassure the rest of us that it's not a copyright violation. See WP:COPYRIGHT. Sorry I have to do this; I hope I haven't spoiled anyone's day. Kla'quot 06:07, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External links[edit]

If possible, make the second external link go to the actual sound flie, not the Gallery page on the ACCHOS website. I don't know how to do it myself, but I hope someone else does so they can fix the link.24.161.53.152 (talk) 21:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese[edit]

夕陽西沉, 求主與我同居;
黑暗漸深, 求主與我同居;
求助無門, 安慰也無求處,
常助孤苦之神, 與我同居.
渺小浮生, 飄向生涯盡處
歡娛好景, 轉瞬都成過去;
變化無常, 環境何能留住?
懇求不變之神, 與我同居.
我深需主, 時刻需主眷顧,
除卻主恩, 尚有何法驅魔?
誰能如主, 時常導引扶持?
無論風雨晦明, 懇求同居.
有主降祥, 仇敵何需畏懼?
淚不辛酸, 痛也無足慮;
墳墓威權, 鋒鋩今天何處?
我仍欣然得勝, 主若同居.
示我寶架. 雙眸垂閉之時,
照徹昏幽, 指我直上天衢;
陰翳飛逝, 欣看天光破曙,
無論天上人間, 懇求同居.

French[edit]

Reste avec nous, Seigneur, le jour décline,
La nuit s’approche et nous menace tous;
Nous implorons ta présence divine:
Reste avec nous, Seigneur, reste avec nous!
En toi nos coeurs ont salué leur Maître,
En toi notre âme a trouvé son époux;
A ta lumière elle se rent renaître:
Reste avec nous, Seigneur, reste avec nous!
Les vains bonheurs de ce monde infidèle
N’enfantent rien que regrets ou dégoûts;
Nous avons soif d’une joie éternelle:
Reste avec nous, Seigneur, reste avec nous!
Dans nos combat si ta main nous délaisse,
Satan vainqueur nous tiendra sous ses coups;
Que ta puissance arme notre faiblesse:
Reste avec nous, Seigneur, reste avec nous!
Sous ton regard la joie est sainte et bonne,
Près de ton coeur les pleurs même sont doux,
Soit que ta main nous frappe ou nous couronne,
Reste avec nous, Seigneur, reste avec nous!
Et quand, au bout de pèlerinage,
Nous partirons pour le grand rendezvous,
Pour nous guider dans ce dernier passage,
Reste avec nous, Seigneur, reste avec nous!

German[edit]

Bleib bei mir, Herr! Der Abend bricht herein.
Es kommt die Nacht, die Finsternis fällt ein.
Wo fänd ich Trost, wärst du mein Gott nicht hier?
Hilf dem, der hilflos ist: Herr, bleib bei mir!
Wie bald verebbt der Tag, das Leben weicht,
die Lust verglimmt, der Erdenruhm verbleicht;
umringt von Fall und Wandel leben wir.
Unwandelbar bist du: Herr, bleib bei mir!
Ich brauch zu jeder Stund dein Nahesein,
denn des Versuchers Macht brichst du allein.
Wer hilft mir sonst, wenn ich den Halt verlier?
In Licht und Dunkelheit, Herr, bleib bei mir!
Von deiner Hand geführt, fürcht ich kein Leid,
kein Unglück, keiner Trübsal Bitterkeit.
Was ist der Tod, bist du mir Schild und Zier?
Den Stachel nimmst du ihm: Herr, bleib bei mir!
Halt mir dein Kreuz vor, wenn mein Auge bricht;
im Todesdunkel bleibe du mein Licht.
Es tagt, die Schatten fliehn, ich geh zu dir.
Im Leben und im Tod, Herr, bleib bei mir!

Portuguese[edit]

Habita em mim na dura tentação;
Senhor habita em mim na escuridão.
Quando os amigos de mim fugir,
Sozinho estou, Senhor vem me acudir.
Nós somos pó, mas estamos aqui;
Com alegria pra louvar a Ti;
Tudo não passa de ostentação;
Jesus não muda Sua criação.
Oh Senhor Jesus vem por mim olhar;
Certo estou que vou contigo andar,
Fiel Senhor, liberdade sem fim.
Não quero perecer, habita em mim!
Com o Rei dos reis, na Luz viverei,
Pois em Suas asas seguro estarei,
De toda dor e toda aflição,
Jesus nos salva e muda o coração.
Eu era jovem; Tu por mim sorria;
Mas cruel e mau eu permanecia,
Jesus não me deixou até o fim,
E até chegar ao céu, habita em mim!
Todos os dias lado a lado andar.
Com Sua graça o mal afastar.
Quem senão Jesus pode nos guiar?
Só Ele pode a chuva e o sol criar!
Eu não receio nem o malfeitor;
Não tenho medo do perigo ou dor.
Jesus a morte Ele venceu, sim!
Jesus triunfou e habita em mim!
Senhor me ajude a carregar a cruz;
Brilha na sombra e mostre-me Sua Luz.
O amanhã em breve terá fim;
Vida ou morte Ele habita em mim!

Italian[edit]

O Dio d’amor, deh, ascolta il mio pregar:
Rendimi intento tutto al Tuo timor;
Per l’evangel desiro in Te abbondar
Di carità, di fé, di speme ognor.
O Dio d’amor, deh, ascolta il mio pregar:
La Tua parola scrivi nel mio cuor;
Altro non v’è che possa consolar;
Per essa sola sento in Te vigor.
O Dio d’amor, deh, ascolta il mio pregar:
Fammi secondo tutto il Tuo voler:
Con tutto il cuor, deh, fammi camminar
Ripieno di virtù nei Tuoi sentier.
O Dio d’amor, deh, ascolta il mio pregar:
Proseguirò conoscer Ti vieppiù…
D’ogni Tuo ben deh, fammi giubilar:
Nel nome Te lo chiedo di Gesù.

Hungarian[edit]

Maradj velem, mert mindjárt este van,
Nő a sötét, ó el ne hagyj, Uram:
Nincs senkim és a vigaszt nem lelem,
Gyámoltalannal, ó maradj velem.
Kis életem fut s hervadásba hull,
Bú lesz a vígság, fényesség fakul,
Csak változást és romlást lát a szem;
Változhatatlan, ó maradj velem.
Minden múló perc Hozzád visz közel,
Kegyelmed űzi kisértőmet el,
Nincs más vezérem, nincs más Mesterem,
Fényben, borúban, ó maradj velem.
Ellenség ellen áldásod fedez,
A könny nem sós, a kór is könnyű lesz,
Sír, halál-fúlánk, hol a győzelem?
Győztes leszek, csak légy, Uram, velem.
Húnyó szemembe vésd keresztedet,
Ködöt foszlatva láttasd szent eged.
Föld árnya fut, menny fénye megjelen:
Halálban is Te légy, Uram, velem.
Fordította: Áprily Lajos

Torbay[edit]

The HFL article says he wrote it watching the sun set in Torbay. From my local knowledge, I know the song was written in Brixham, but I also know the sun wouldn't set over Torbay as it faces east. I'm not completely knowledgeable about the exact facts of its writing, but surely the two articles should match...
Ը२ձւե๓ձռ17 16:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the information is to be present in both articles, it should match, as you suggest. So there are two points:
  1. We could do with a decent, cited, verifiable source of that information. From your local knowledge, and presumably with access to local libraries, could you dig out the information?
  2. Perhaps the information should be in just one article, with the other cross-referencing to it. (I would suggest the hymn article rather than the author article.)
Feline Hymnic (talk) 20:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Use of Abide with me at Royal weddings[edit]

A lot of websites say this hymn was sung at the wedding of George VI and that of his daughter Elizabeth. It just isn't true. There are on the net details of the services and some videos. It was Praise my soul, written by the same author as Abide with me that was common to these weddings. 92.11.216.245 (talk) 23:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC) Stephen Mitchell 1st May 2011[reply]

Here is the reference on the official Westminster Abbey website http://www.westminster-abbey.org/our-history/royals/weddings/hm-queen-elizabeth-ii--and--hrh-the-duke-of-edinburgh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.216.245 (talk) 15:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding that. It is useful for us deciding what to do. Given that your references seems to confirm that this hymn played no part at all in the service, I suggest that we simply omit all reference to it. So I'll edit it out. Best wishes. Feline Hymnic (talk) 10:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

King George ?[edit]

I thought that Abide with me was the favourite of George VI, not of George V. 94.30.84.71 (talk) 20:52, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Titanic connection[edit]

Whilst three different settings of Nearer My God to Thee and the popular dance number Autumn Dream are popular favourites for the last tune played on the RMS Titanic, I think Abide with Me (presumably sung to Eventide) is not a significant contender and the reference should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.96.217.46 (talk) 03:59, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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"Popular use" section[edit]

The trivia template at the top of the "Popular use" section has been in place for about eighteen months. This section is overloaded with non-encyclopaedic trivia ("it was once used in an episode of a soap opera", etc.) and overwhelms the article. I propose massively reducing it, although preserving a few items which are both encyclopaedic are properly sourced. Unless there is any discussion here to the contrary, I propose doing this about a week from now. Feline Hymnic (talk) 10:50, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No objection from me. A year and a half is plenty of time for anyone who cared to have fixed it. TJRC (talk) 17:23, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Feline Hymnic (talk) 15:03, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The "In popular music" section is useful info and should be included again for people to come to know that this hymn was also made into popular songs recorded by modern day artists and musicians across different genres, with some having chart hits with it. References should also be added. Hiddenstranger (talk) 04:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lyte's preferred given name[edit]

Sources such as this: [1] call him Henry. This article calls him Francis. Which is right?---Ehrenkater (talk) 18:02, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's really moot. We should use his full name Henry Francis Lyte in the lede and first occurrence in the body; but thereafter, per WP:SURNAME, neither "Henry" nor "Francis" should be used. TJRC (talk) 23:06, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

breaking news tag?[edit]

should this article be marked as breaking news? or possibly controversial? [1][2][3] Irtapil (talk) 05:26, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ "Dropping 'Abide With Me' Should Not Come as a Surprise". The Wire. Retrieved 27 January 2022.
  2. ^ "Mahatma Gandhi's 'Abide With Me' hymn dropped from Beating Retreat Ceremony". India Today. Retrieved 27 January 2022.
  3. ^ "Explained: Abide With Me, the Christian hymn dropped from the Beating Retreat ceremony". The Indian Express. 26 January 2022. Retrieved 27 January 2022.
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