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"Northern Europe" is rather ambiguous in English, more often meaning something like "Europe north of the Alps", at least in later periods, but I suspect for this period as well. I suspect this is less the case in German and the Nordic languages, but we are using English here. A better title should be found. Johnbod (talk) 13:53, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Just look up Northern Europe here on Wikipedia. It also comprise The British Isles, which are clearly not within the scope of this article. RhinoMind (talk) 21:18, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Can some of the editors behind this article perhaps explain what the motivation of this article is? Is there any solid source using this division? Are the cultures in the region focused on in this article even related? I am not an expert on the prehistory of Europe, but from what I know, the regional division behind this page is nothing more than geographical. This is a very bad approach, not far from OR. RhinoMind (talk) 21:24, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well when I last left it this was a rairly straightforward - list of periods cultures and archaeological subdivivsions that was almost solely links to other pages that themselves were meant to argue their case for the nomenclature and with sourcing etc. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:02, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Although he has not properly recorded this via his edit summaries, as he is supposed to do, User:Dbachmann has just rolled up all the previous articles: Roman Iron Age (Northern Europe), Germanic Iron Age, Pre-Roman Iron Age (Northern Europe), now all just redirects to here. See [[1]] for 18 July. I don't especially object to this, though there wasn't much notice or debate. I followed Pre-Roman Iron Age (Northern Europe), originally just Pre-Roman Iron Age. Certainly that article suffered from being written by locals, making inadequate allowance for different meanings in English. I think that the history of regions north of both Celtic Europe and the Roman empire is fine as a topic, but we need to use the right terms. Johnbod (talk) 12:04, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is a long-standing problem, there were badly maintained stubs article that kept being moved around by editors.
I do recommend a further merger into Scandinavian prehistory. The material is rather poor, as suggested by Johnbod, and "merger" really means, research and rewrite the topic from scratch. --dab(𒁳) 16:55, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking up the important discussion about the apparent lack of any motive behind this page and how it came to be. I would also like to point out however, that geographically speaking The British Isles (sorry, but I am including Ireland here, no offence!) is also part of Northern Europe. This is the main reason I view this page as very close to OR. The Iron Age culture in The British Isles are very different from what went on in Scandinavia. And visa versa. I fail to see any scholarly reason for gathering all of Northern Europe into one article. It is simply not backed up by any scientific approach. On the contrary. RhinoMind (talk) 19:24, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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