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Should we refer to AI art as art? By some definitions it is not, and I think it is important that the article reflects this![edit]

Some define art as being a form of human communication, which would exclude AI art from being art. I think we should reconsider statements such as "Artificial intelligence art is any artwork, particularly images and musical compositions, created through the use of artificial intelligence (AI) programs, such as text-to-image models and musical generators.", as they imply that AI art is art without taking into account the lack of consensus on the topic. Rhinoceros Beetle (talk) 15:43, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please get acquanted with the definition of Art.
Specifically Purpose and Steps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art#Purpose
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art#Steps
I will bring your attention, to the fact that the first two steps of the creation process of art.
The Preparation (1st Step) - "In the first step, the artist envisions the art in their mind. By imagining what their art would look like, the artist begins the process of bringing the art into existence. Preparation of art may involve approaching and researching the subject matter."
The Creation (2nd Step), states: "In the second step, the artist executes the creation of their work. The creation of a piece can be affected by factors such as the artist's mood, surroundings, and mental state."
And of course, please get acquainted with the term and definition Conceptual Art (not to be confused with concept art)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conceptual_art#Conceptual_art_and_artistic_skill
"Conceptual art, also referred to as conceptualism, is art in which the concept(s) or idea(s) involved in the work are prioritized equally to or more than traditional aesthetic, technical, and material concerns."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art#Skill_and_craft
"A common contemporary criticism of some modern art occurs along the lines of objecting to the apparent lack of skill or ability required in the production of the artistic object. In conceptual art, Marcel Duchamp's Fountain is among the first examples of pieces wherein the artist used found objects ("ready-made") and exercised no traditionally recognised set of skills.
Tracey Emin's My Bed, or Damien Hirst's The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living follow this example and also manipulate the mass media. Emin slept (and engaged in other activities) in her bed before placing the result in a gallery as work of art.
Hirst came up with the conceptual design for the artwork but has left most of the eventual creation of many works to employed artisans."
The process of creation AI art (or AI assisted art), first of all does not contradict the creation process of Art. And all 3 basic steps can be followed: Envision, Execute and Appreaciate.
Also, AI art (or AI assisted art) falls under the Category of Conceptual Art, a modern art form, which you might not like, but it does exist.
Thus, using Midjourney and writing your own prompts and evolving your images, when you have a very specific vision in mind does constitute as Art, by Art's own definitions.
And just like with any other format, there will be those who are not good at it, who have the imagination of a snail, and there will be those who will create masterpieces of art.
Just because, you disagree with existing definitions about what is needed to make an art piece, does not invalidate existing definition of what can be considered art or not.
"Art is a diverse range of human activity, and its resulting product, that involves creative or imaginative talent generally expressive of technical proficiency, beauty, emotional power, or conceptual ideas." 82.131.6.207 (talk) 16:48, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the second of these premises, namely "the artist executes the creation of their work," surely there exists at the very least a level of ambiguity as to whether the artist actually executes that work? The artist in question may have a particular vision in mind when giving a prompt, but this is no guarantor of any form of continuity between what is thought and what is generated, given the mind of the artist is not a source an engine such as Midjourney can access, and could in fact give undesirable results.
On top of this, an artist being commissioned to produce an artwork on a set of specified details does not make the commissioner of the art the creator of the art, but rather the artist who produces the final work. Under this context it would make more sense for the person inputing a prompt to be viewed in the role of a commissioner, and the AI model in that of the 'artist', so to speak, but with this the effect had undermines the pre-assumed position that the person created the art, resulting in the generated image being product of machine activity, not human activity. 2A02:C7C:62D9:5C00:9C51:870E:BA29:14D4 (talk) 01:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Artificial intelligence art → Artificial intelligence image generation – It is not an accurate title as the technology is used to generate images in general and is not solely used for the purpose of generating artwork. MountainDew20 (talk) 23:56, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose The topic of this article is art created by AI. This includes AI art by artists like Stephanie Dinkins and Sougwen Chung that is not based on just AI generation of still images. If there is a desire for an article on the different topic of "Artificial intelligence image generation," that article could possibly be created in addition to this one. Or if there is an overemphasis or undue weight on AI generation of still images in this article, that can be corrected by the normal editing process on this article. Elspea756 (talk) 01:44, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Support, seems a perfect titling and descriptor of what AI images do. A computer or machine can only imitate or mix already existing works, but cannot create what humans call "art": the purposeful rendition of materials into aesthetic form. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:53, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom—blindlynx 15:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Although the technology can produce other types of image, practically every paragraph of this article is about its relation to artwork, and its impact on artists. The concept of "images in general" from an AI is covered more widely and neutrally at text-to-image model. --Belbury (talk) 16:05, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Belbury – if it didn't already exist, text-to-image model would be a much more appropriate title than artificial intelligence image generation anyway. 3df (talk) 00:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I personally don't think it's art, but I can't deny that "AI art" is the common name for it. I would support a move to AI art, however. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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