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Early Years

In the 9/16/1985 People. Babe's sister Mary revealed that Babe was followed by a set of twin boys, then Mary's twin sister and Mary, then another set of twin boys. Mary's twin sister and the two sets of twin boys did not survive infancy. (http://people.com/archive/babes-sister-vol-23-no-12/) Someone needs to include this under Early Years section. 47.152.248.207 (talk) 00:01, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Have secondary sources picked it up?--Wehwalt (talk) 09:05, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

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Inconsistency between article writing style and Wikipedia policy

Wikipedia is forever frowning on articles that read like the narration track written for any number of PBS and similar types of cable stations (A&E, History, Military Discovery etc etc etc). Yet the whole tone of the entire article reads exactly like such a script.

As I keep getting honked at by Wikipedia administrators for improving articles and I keep listening to them say the same thing - why would they let entire articles like this stand as a monument to a writing style with which they have a problem?

Either the Wikipedia administrators need to quit complaining about how articles sound like a TJ Lubinsky production or else they need to quit complaining about the people wo contribute in that style of writing.

It's one or the other people. You can't have your cake and eat it too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.102.157.201 (talk) 02:39, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2017

I was the first to discuss Babe Ruth's cancer diagnosis and I have an article showing that I was the earliest: Bikhazi, N et al. Babe Ruth's Cancer and Its Impact on Medical History Laryngoscope 109:1-7. January 1999.

I would like to add this reference to the initial line (which I wrote): "In 1946, Ruth began experiencing severe pain over his left eye, and had difficulty swallowing. In November 1946, he entered French Hospital in New York for tests, which revealed that Ruth had an inoperable malignant tumor at the base of his skull and in his neck" Nbikhazi (talk) 22:51, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Izno (talk) 17:24, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Could someone with access to medical sources take a second look at this and see if what he says is accurate?--Wehwalt (talk) 18:08, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps bring it up at WikiProject Medicine? JTP (talkcontribs) 19:54, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Could not locate this journal article title anywhere? – Train2104 (t • c) 17:26, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
The correct title is "Babe Ruth's Illness and Its Impact on Medical History". You can download it here. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 18:32, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2017

Change: Brother Matthias Boutlier of the Christian Brothers To: Brother Matthias Boutlier of the Xaverian Brothers 74.102.116.182 (talk) 15:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

See my response below. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:12, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2017

Change: Brother Matthias Boutlier of the Christian Brothers To: Brother Martin Leo "Matthias" Boutilier, C.F.X., of the Xaverian Brothers

???: Boutlier or Boutilier 74.102.116.182 (talk) 15:59, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: as it appears you don't know what you are requesting. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:12, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2017

One sentence says "As an adult babe ruth reminisced he been..." shouldn't it be "he had been" Ghinga7 (talk) 15:22, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Done DRAGON BOOSTER 16:30, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2017

http://nypost.com/2014/02/01/chicago-journalist-debunks-babe-ruths-called-shot/ says "Crosetti even said that after Ruth regaled reporters with his tale of how he called the shot, he sat next to Crosetti, winked, and told him, “You know I didn’t point, I know I didn’t point, but if those bastards want to think I pointed to center field, let ’em.” I think that is needed in this article Ghinga7 (talk) 16:37, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

I think it's better at Babe Ruth's called shot than here. We have a sufficient discussion--Wehwalt (talk) 18:17, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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Brother Matthias Boutlier

Brother Matthias Boutlier was a member of the Xaverian Brothers, i.e., a member of the Congregation of St. Francis Xavier (C.F.X.), which operated St. Mary's Industrial School when Babe Ruth was a student there. Brother Matthias was not a member of the Christian Brothers (i.e., De La Salle Christian Brothers or Brothers of the Christian Schools). There are a number of pictures of Brother Matthias Boutlier available on the Internet including ones with Babe Ruth. Brother Matthias is not dressed as De La Salle Christian Brother or as an Irish Christian Brother in any of these pictures. Somebody with editing powers should fix this statement in the article. JacquotFresne (talk) 00:33, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Can you provide a source for what you're saying?--Wehwalt (talk) 07:54, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Note first of all that there was no source for claiming that Brother Matthias was a Christian Brother (either a De La Salle Christian Brother or an Irish Christian Brother) so the statement that he was a Christian Brother was never even purported to be justified in the first place. On the other hand, there are photos readily available on the Internet that show that Brother Matthias was dressed as a Xaverian Brother (C.F.X.) and not as a Christian Brother.

To see how Brother Matthias was dressed, see https://www.catholicjournal.us/2011/08/08/babe-and-a-brother-named-mathias/ and https://www.stjohnsprep.org/cf_news/view.cfm?newsid=4595 . Note that this second web page is from St. John's Prep, a Xaverian school. To see other pictures of Xaverian Brothers see http://stjoeprep1959.tripod.com/brothers.htm and http://graveyardrabbitofsanduskybay.blogspot.com/2011/08/blessing-came-in-us-mail.html . Yes, Brother Matthias dressed like a Xaverian Brother. Indeed, he was a Xaverian Brother.

To see how the De La Salle Christian Brothers dressed until recent decades, see, for example, https://www.cbu.edu/the-christian-brothers . To see how the Irish Christian Brothers dressed see, for example, https://irishphotoarchive.photoshelter.com/image/I0000JNWrXeEz754 . Thus, the three congregations of brothers dressed distinctly and should not have been confused.

Babe Ruth attended St. Mary's Industrial School which eventually became Cardinal Gibbons School. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_Gibbons_School_(Baltimore,_Maryland)#Saint_Mary's_Industrial_School_for_Boys_(1866%E2%80%931950) . During Babe Ruth's time, the school was under the direction of the Xaverian Brothers. Nevertheless, eventually a De La Salle Christian Brother, Brother Kevin Strong F.S.C. became the school president. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_Gibbons_School_(Baltimore,_Maryland)#Saint_Mary's_Industrial_School_for_Boys_(1866%E2%80%931950) and https://www.fscdena.org/2018/01/04/brother-kevin-strong-fsc/ . The second reference is to a web site of the De La Salle Christian Brothers. It notes that Brother Kevin Strong, F.S.C., was president of Cardinal Gibbons School from 2004 to 2008. Perhaps this is the source of the confusion, i.e., there was a change in who ran the school. The important thing, however, is that, just because there was a De La Salle Christian Brother in charge of the school from 2004 to 2008, it doesn't mean that the De La Salle Brothers were teaching at St. Mary's Industrial School when Babe Ruth attended there. Indeed, they weren't.

Some other Internet references to the Xaverian Brothers running St. Mary's Industrial School during Babe Ruth's days there are http://www.davidbstinsonauthor.com/tag/st-marys-industrial-school-for-boys/ , https://www.deadballbaseball.com/?p=1678 , https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/babe-ruth2.htm , and http://livingthecharism.com/saint-marys-industrial-home-a-grateful-look-at-the-past/ . Note that this last reference is to a Xaverian Brothers' web site. JacquotFresne (talk) 04:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Brother Matthias got a lot of press in his time. I'll settle for a source that clearly states his affiliation. We can't expect the reader to make judgments about the dress of religious orders.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm new to Wikipedia so please excuse me if this is not the appropriate way to respond. My name is Denise and I work for Mount Saint Joseph High School, a Xaverian Brother Sponsored School in Baltimore, MD. I have many documents and articles that I can provide to help confirm the correct spelling and affiliation of Brother Matthias, C.F.X.. In the book titled "Young Babe Ruth" written by Brother Gilbert, C.F.X. beginning on page 10 there is a bibliography of Brother Matthias, C.F.X. and his relation to that of the young George. I also have the prayer card created for Brother Matthias, C.F.X. depicting his life as a Brother. As I am new, I do not know how to appropriately upload these documents or sources, if someone could please help me I would appreciate it as we have alumni who are watching the page waiting for the corrections for Brother Matthias, C.F.X. Dmparr427 (talk) 16:42, 17 January 2018 (UTC)dmparr427Dmparr427 (talk) 16:42, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Anything that qualifies as a WP:RS Will do. Just give me a quote and as complete a citation as you can And I will edit. People have several times changed that sentence.I would welcome any biographies of Brother Matthias, so that we can write an article on him.—Wehwalt (talk) 16:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

[1] Dmparr427 (talk) 18:42, 17 January 2018 (UTC)dmparr427Dmparr427 (talk) 18:42, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

I apologize, I hit publish too quickly. I do have these pages scanned as a pdf already but since I do not own the copywrite I could not upload them to this post. Im happy to email them to anyone who may need or want them to help with correcting the page. Thank you so much for all of your help! Dmparr427 (talk) 18:49, 17 January 2018 (UTC)dmparr427

I am pleased to do it. I think it was originally correct and someone changed it in error, as later in the article when we get to Ruth's time at St. Mary's, it properly states who ran the school. So hopefully all is well, but I do keep a close eye on this talk page if it is not. Are you aware of any photographs of Brother Matthias published before 1923? I would happily add it to the article, as it would be out of copyright.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:14, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Gilbert, Brother. “Introduction.” Young Babe Ruth: His Early Life and Baseball Career from the Memoirs of a Xaverian Brother, edited by Harry Rothgerber, McFarland & Co., 1999, pp. 10–15.

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2018

207.190.163.104 (talk) 14:50, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Babe ryth was a hard throwing lefty

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:56, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Greatness RfC that may affect this article

Just a note to let editors know that there is an ongoing RfC about the term "greatest of all time" (especially in the lead). The discussion ongoing at Talk:Rod Laver. Either way you bend it could affect this article. Join in if you wish. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:43, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Tone & style

I have attempted to improve the writing style in this article by replacing words like "slugger", "slugging", etc. with more descriptive equivalents, and omitting plain editorializing such as "outstanding", "capable", "legendary", "stellar", and so forth. Regarding this revert, it's not an issue of sourcing at all; no essential information was changed. It's a question of using the formal tone appropriate to an encylopedia. For instance, we should call the subject by his actual name and not with clichéd terms like "the slugger", etc. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:43, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

There are a limited number of superlatives, and they are justified by the text. Baseball terminology is routinely used in a baseball article. I'm sorry, I don't agree with you, and I am a bit surprised that you feel that an article that has been a FA for five years is somehow fatally deficient in tone.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:09, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Misspelling of players name

Hello. In section: Emergence as a hitter, fifth paragraph, Tillie Walker's first name is misspelled. It should be Tilly. Go to the wiki page, that is how his first name is spelled. Thank you and have a good day.2601:581:8500:949C:E06C:BB83:3FED:76AE (talk) 11:32, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2018

In the section on Babe Ruth's early years, the street he lived on is incorrect. It is Woodyear not Goodyear. This fact can be verified in US Census Records and Baltimore City Directories. See: http://baberuth100.blogspot.com/2013/12/chapter-2.html

When young George was a toddler, the family moved to 339 South "change Goodyear to Woodyear" Street, not far from the rail yards; by the time the boy was 6, his father had a saloon with an upstairs apartment at 426 West Camden Street. 50.203.67.114 (talk) 11:58, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Done. Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Navboxes problem

When I click on "show" on the navboxes at the bottom, they don't open (Chrome, Windows 10). Is this happening to others? I tried cutting everything *except* the navboxes out of the page in preview mode, and they worked fine when I did that, so I'm not sure the navboxes themselves are to blame. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Personal life section

This text is in the Personal life section: "Although Ruth was married throughout most of his baseball career, when Colonel Huston asked him to tone down his lifestyle, the player said, 'I'll promise to go easier on drinking and to get to bed earlier, but not for you, fifty thousand dollars, or two-hundred and fifty thousand dollars will I give up women. They're too much fun.'"

I have documented information as to the reason for this quote and the dollar amounts in the quote. Briefly, after the end of the 1922 season, Ruth accepted a five year contract at $52,000 per year. There was a November 11, 1922 addendum with a morals clause. It called for Ruth to abstain entirely from the use of intoxicating liquors, and to not stay up later than 1:00 a.m. without permission of the manager. A requirement for marital fidelity was not part of the addendum. See page 5 of text of Addendum at: https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1922-babe-ruth-signed-contract-addendum-limiting-his-drinking-late-nights-i-ll-promise-to-go-easier-on-drinking-an/a/707-19090.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

Does anyone object to adding a description and ref to the addendum as an explanation for the quote? David notMD (talk) 15:02, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Just remember it is a primary source and should not be expanded about or interpreted.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:39, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Text and ref added. As for the preceding quotation, I doubt it would have been a reply directed to Huston, as Huston had sold his share of the team to Ruppert before the beginning of the 1922 season, but I have no reference for the recipient of the quote being Ruppert rather than Huston. David notMD (talk) 19:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I suspect the whole thing had something to do with his promises to clean up his act which followed his troubled 1922 season.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Off-season 1922-23 is when he also bought a farm in Sudbury, MA, named it Home Plate Farm and during the winter claimed to have lost 21 pounds. David notMD (talk) 23:14, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Mentioning an absence of any insistence on marital infidelity in the addendum could be taken as implying that it was a topic of discussion that in the end did not end up in the addendum. By itself, that may be implying too much, but then Ruth's quote "I'll promise to go easier on drinking and to get to bed earlier, but not for you, fifty thousand dollars, or two-hundred and fifty thousand dollars will I give up women. They're too much fun." suggests that his drinking, late hours and (well-known) womanizing were all part of the same discussion. David notMD (talk) 00:46, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

I see your point, but it still seems a bit WP:SYNTH for me.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:18, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
I will abide by your recommendation. David notMD (talk) 02:42, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Above, I had questioned the quote from Ruth being a reply to Huston rather than to Ruppert, but the source - Fred Lieb's book - has it as Huston. David notMD (talk) 17:17, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Buck Freeman's 1899 home run count

This article states it is 24; the WikiPedia page for Buck Freeman states it is 25.

Should this be corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.66.16.119 (talk) 13:45, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

After consulting Retrosheet, I have changed it to 25 and adjusted the text. That doesn't mean it was miscopied from the source, or the source was wrong, it may have been thought to be 24. Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2019

Ghr1227 (talk) 21:16, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

In this section :

The Yankees faced the Cubs, McCarthy's former team, in the 1932 World Series.[151] There was bad blood between the two teams as the Yankees resented the Cubs only awarding half a World Series share to Mark Koenig, a former Yankee. The games at Yankee Stadium had not been sellouts; both were won by the home team, with Ruth collecting two singles, but scoring four runs as he was walked four times by the Cubs pitchers. In Chicago, Ruth was resentful at the hostile crowds that met the Yankees' train and jeered them at the hotel. The crowd for Game Three included New York Governor Franklin D. Roosevelt, the Democratic candidate for president, who sat with Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak. Many in the crowd threw lemons at Ruth, a sign of derision, and others (as well as the Cubs themselves) shouted abuse at Ruth and other Yankees. They were briefly silenced when Ruth hit a three-run home run off Charlie Root in the first inning, but soon revived, and the Cubs tied the score at 4–4 in the fourth inning, partly due to Ruth's fielding error in the outfield. When Ruth came to the plate in the top of the fifth, the Chicago crowd and players, led by pitcher Guy Bush, were screaming insults at Ruth. With the count at two balls and one strike, Ruth gestured, possibly in the direction of center field, and after the next pitch (a strike), may have pointed there with one hand. Ruth hit the fifth pitch over the center field fence; estimates were that it traveled nearly 500 feet (150 m). Whether or not Ruth intended to indicate where he planned to (and did) hit the ball (Charles Devens, who, in 1999, was interviewed as Ruth's surviving teammate in that game, did not think so), the incident has gone down in legend as Babe Ruth's called shot.[8][152] The Yankees won Game Three, and the following day clinched the Series with another victory.[153] During that game, Bush hit Ruth on the arm with a pitch, causing words to be exchanged and provoking a game-winning Yankee rally.[154] =

The link to Charles Devins is the wrong one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Devens It should be this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Devens Ghr1227 (talk) 21:16, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Done. Nice catch.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:42, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Stout citations

The article currently lists two works by Glenn Stout as sources: Yankees Century (2002) and The Selling of the Babe (2016). But inline citations only give "Stout" and a page number. It would be helpful if people would include the publication year when adding shortened footnotes, to avoid this kind of ambiguity. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 07:41, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Having seen cleanup tags throughout the reference list, I did some detective work and found that all of the Stout citations were to the 2002 book. The references to Stout all dated from the article's promotion to FA status, which predates the 2016 book. The Selling of the Babe was added here, but the content additions were sourced to a different book, not Stout's. I've gone through and fixed up all of the references with tags, so that should resolve the issue. Giants2008 (Talk) 19:37, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

First Professional Home Run

His first professional home run at Hanlan's Point Stadium in Toronto, Canada on September 5, 1914 should be mentioned 2607:FEA8:10E0:1A00:2CC7:945A:AA97:1C49 (talk) 15:30, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

It is already mentioned, though the site is said in the source to be Maple Leaf Park. Is there a mistake?--Wehwalt (talk) 17:49, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2021

In the career highlights and awards section Ruth's combined no hitter with Ernie Shore on June 23, 1917 is not included. As well as there is no link to Earnie Shore's page on the Babe Ruth Page. The Ernie Shore page indicates the combined no hitter with Ruth and links back to Ruth's page. Thxsean (talk) 00:34, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please see List of career achievements by Babe Ruth § Major League records for a listing of the 1917 no-hitter game. Ernie Shore is linked from the page in § Minor league, Baltimore Orioles and is mentioned in other sections as well. TGHL ↗ 00:57, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Given the quantity of material we have to cover in this article, spending time discussing a game in which Ruth walked the opening batter and was kicked out for arguing balls and strikes seems to me to be unnecessary.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:51, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Racism in this article

The nickname for Babe Ruth given by his teammates is very racist. Not sure why the N-word helps us understand Babe Ruth's life better. Kids are coming to this page to read about the legendary baseball player and learning this terrible word. Someone please remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthGenius (talkcontribs) 12:22, June 6, 2021 (UTC)

Ruth was often the subject of taunts. He was called that by the Giants in the 1922 World Series, leading him to confront them in their locker room. It helps us understand what he had to overcome.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:26, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

No it does not help us understand what he had to overcome. It’s racist and unnecessary. “He was the subject of taunts” is all we really need to know. Why do we need to know the racist names he was called? MatthGenius (talk) 19:40, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

It absolutely was racist of people to call him the n-word. It is not racist for us to document that he was called the n-word, and would be a significant omission from Ruth's biography to do so. "He was the subject of taunts" leaves out the minimum necessary information. Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED. Kids should know about the history of things like racism. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:02, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

It is racist to use that word, with very few exceptions- knowing Babe Ruth was called that is not one of them. There is no point for it to be in there. In no way does it inform us on the history of racism. In no way does it help us understand better what Babe Ruth overcame. “He was mocked/taunted called names” would do the trick. Please tell me how Babe Ruth being called that is significant. Saying this helps kids know the history of racism is silly. That is not relevant to the struggle of black people, Babe Ruth was white. MatthGenius (talk) 21:56, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

More information (with a source) about his final MLB game

The following could replace the current sentence "The first game of the doubleheader in Philadelphia—the Braves lost both—was his final major league appearance.":

His final major league baseball game was the first of the doubleheader at Philadelphia's Baker Bowl on May 30, 1935. Ruth grounded out to first base in his only at bat but got an assist by throwing a runner out at home plate on a relay play from left field.[1]

Rushmoron (talk) 19:13, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Personally I think it's too much detail, but YMMV.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:00, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

I think the change would add a few very interesting details (the game took place in the infamous Baker Bowl, he only had one at bat in his final game, got no hits, but actually had a successful defensive play in the outfield in his very final act as a major leaguer) without adding very much additional length because it is replacing a sentence that offers very little interest. Thanks.Rushmoron (talk) 15:21, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Philadelphia Phillies 11, Boston Braves 6 (1)". Retrosheet. Retrieved 14 November 2021.

lead paragraph seems awfully long

Great article, but seems like the lead paragraph is eternal. Some of that stuff doesn't belong in the lead(not to say it doesn't belong in the article body), I personally feel like it could be condensed so much more efficiently. MOS:LEAD technically says four paragraphs should be very maximum amount of paragraphs in the lead, those paragraphs are quite lengthy. WP:SIZERULE says an article this big (150,000 bytes roughly at the time of me posting this) should almost certainly be divided into a second article. Cut the lead down and we don't have such a problem. EliteArcher88 (talk) 19:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

I agree with this opinion. The lead section contains quite a bit of minutiae that can easily be found later on in the pertinent main article section(s). Thanks. Rushmoron (talk) 16:31, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Overlinking?

In

Ruth was not much noticed by the fans, as Bostonians watched the Red Sox's crosstown rivals, the Braves, begin a legendary comeback that would take them from last place on the [[Fourth of July]] to the 1914 World Series championship.[33]

is it necessary to link the Fourth of July? It isn't really linked to this page (would it still be linked if it were Seventeenth of August, for instance)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.9.119.140 (talk) 11:24, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

  • That's a perfectly salient link to be made... Stevenmitchell (talk) 08:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
I think it's a matter for someone to be WP:BOLD about if they feel motivated to, rather than for extensive talk page discussion.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Babe Ruth silent movie starring himself.

The 1927 movie staring Babe as himself, that you mention, may be lost. But the 1920 silent film Headin' Home starring Babe Ruth as himself, is currently available on Amazon Prime Video. Directed by Lawrence Windon, starring Babe Ruth,Ruth Taylor, William Sheer, Presented by Kessel & Baumann, produced by Yankee Photo Corp'N. 24.34.21.19 (talk) 01:53, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Picture of Ruth hitting first home run at Yankee Stadium….you have July, it should be April….

Correct 2601:841:8100:6570:983A:3658:E847:2803 (talk) 06:25, 24 January 2023 (UTC)