Talk:Babes (band)

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Edits made by the below user were last checked for neutrality on 2021-08-22 by FormalDude.

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Creating Babes (band)[edit]

@Mbroderick271: So what I found is that Babe's first album was released in 2013, so I changed their formation date to that. I then created a section for their albums. I changed the wording on the podcast appearance because your reference didn't really prove what was said. That's mostly what I changed. I added the infobox, I'd like to add an image of one of their album cover's as well. Formal Dude (talk) 05:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FormalDude: Thank you so much for your help in improving the article! Only one thing I want to check with you about - in the link I provided it says "and our first musical guest ever Babes" under the episode description for 221 - It Happened In Silverlake - 11/16/2016. Do you think it would be okay if I changed the article to accurately reflect this statement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbroderick271 (talk • contribs) 06:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Mbroderick271: No need to ask me, go ahead! Formal Dude (talk) 07:25, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest editing[edit]

@Bilby: Hey, just wondering what the COI tag was put onto this article for. I removed it and replaced it with a neutrality disputed tag until we hear back from you. —Formal Dude (talk) 07:35, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A job was recently advertised on Upwork to create this article. The person hired was a long term paid editor, who uses socks to evade their block. As the job is still underway, it seems oddly coincidental that this was created now. It could be unrelated, it could be that they hired a second person, or it could be that the blocked editor is still involved in some way. Whatever the case, it seems that there is reason to be concerned about a conflict of interest. - Bilby (talk) 07:50, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just to help clarify, the specific wording of the Upwork ad is "I have a band with my brother and sister called Babes We want a wiki page made for us ... we've put out albums with Capitol records and Barsuk records", so I don't have any doubt that the job was for this band. - Bilby (talk) 07:56, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bilby: I wrote the original version of this article. This band has been on my to do Wikipedia list ever since I heard them on the Harmontown podcast last fall. Rest assured, if you look at my history of contributions you will see that I am a longtime Wikipedian in good standing aside from some petty vandalism years ago when I was much younger. I do not have any other accounts on this site, and this is the first time I have published an article about this band on here. Mbroderick271 (talk) 08:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bilby: I realize in my response I may have confused things by saying I wrote "the original version of the article." To clarify, I mean that I wrote the original version of the current iteration of the article that was published just hours ago. I know no more about past versions of this article than what you've described about this talk page. Mbroderick271 (talk) 08:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That may be the case. But with two recent versions created in the last few weeks by a blocked paid editor, and this version created just a day after the client had visited the Upwork job, I think there is reason for concern. It may not be necessary, but a tag seems reasonable. - Bilby (talk) 09:16, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bilby: I removed the COI tag because although your reasons seem valid I don't think they warrant a COI tag. Instead I added a connected editor tag to this talk page and a notability tag to the article considering it may simply be a paid advertisement for an insignificant band. Let me know if you agree with this. —Formal Dude (talk) 17:22, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FormalDude: I think there's been some kind of misunderstanding. The statement "Mbroderick271 (talk · contribs) This user has contributed to the article. This user has declared a connection." is incorrect. I have not declared a connection. I do not have a connection to the subject. I became interested in the subject via my following the podcast Harmontown. The vague implications made by you and Bilby that I'm connected are unfounded, and as I stated earlier my editing history is lengthy, varied and without blemish aside from some petty vandalism when I was much younger. I completely understand the need for caution given the prior involvement of a disreputable paid editor with this subject, but I would appreciate it if the incorrect statements about me could be removed. Mbroderick271 (talk) 22:42, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Mbroderick271: I'm just listening to Bilby. I removed the declared tag, sorry I put the in incorrectly. —Formal Dude (talk) 01:53, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FormalDude: Thank you. I understand, and I really appreciate your help both in the initial edits you did and also in helping work out how to move forward with the article. Mbroderick271 (talk) 04:26, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]