Talk:Beartooth (band)

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Genre[edit]

The group's primary genre is mislabeled; "hardcore punk" is not the best-fitting title to describe the band's music. This is due to continual misattribution of the terms "hardcore", "punk", and ergo "hardcore punk". "Hardcore punk" is most often (and best) reserved for bands of the 1970's and 1980's who pioneered the genre. Due to Beartooth's recency, their affiliated acts, and the production style of their music, (polished, well-engineered audio is atypical of the hardcore punk genre), one of the many off-shoot subgenres (metalcore, nu-metal) that has grown out of hardcore-punk in the last 20 years would be the wisest and most relevant genre by which to classify the band.

Furthermore, the band's stylistic direction is heavily divergent from that of traditional hardcore punk. As is evidenced in the wikipedia article for a "breakdown", the slow-tempo to mid-tempo breaks that frequently occur in Beartooth songs are most strongly attributed with the metalcore genre rather than the fast-paced, fluidity of hardcore punk -- a genre which often avoids interludes altogether. Thusly I've edited the page to reflect the band's most accurate genre classification, metalcore.

While I agree with this unfortunately Hardcore Punk is the most referenced genre and metalcore appears to be secondary along with nu-metal being only an influence. Please cite some reliable sources before you add or change the genres in the article and its infobox otherwise it would be considered WP:OR. Aslo when you leave a comment please use the "Add new section" at the top left to start a new discussion and also use ~~~~ to leave your signature so as we know who we are discussing with, thank you. SilentDan297 talk 00:09, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't we add post-hardcore, since they are after the hardcore punk movement, but are primarily described as hardcore punk, post-hardcore implies anything after the movement that is influenced by hardcore. Wikipageedittor099 (talk) 21:49, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I Have a Problem - Article for Deletion[edit]

Just in case you aren't aware, the article for the song I Have a Problem is currently nominated for deletion, please add to the discussion if you can here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/I_Have_a_Problem

SilentDan (talk) 17:30, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Request to change the genre[edit]

I was going to edit this myself, but it said to bring it up on the talk page before I did that, so here I am. I am here to formally request permission to change the primary style of Beartooth from Hardcore-punk to Metalcore. The band's style of music is very different than the traditional Hardcore-punk sound, as they feature many features that are associated more with Metatalcore than Hardcore-punk, such as Metalcore-style breakdowns, melodic riffs, and frequent use of unclean vocals. Furthermore, Metalcore already draws inspiration from Hardcore-punk anyways, so by changing the gnere from Hardcore-punk to Metalcore, we'd still be including the Post-hardcore side of their style, while being able to properly name their genre at the same time. ThatOneJewishMetalhead (talk) 00:34, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The opening genre should be as general as possible, both hardcore punk and metalcore are cited and metalcore is a derivative of hardcore, therefore by saying they're a hardcore punk band you're including metalcore and any other derivatives of hardcore (such as post-hardcore). Issan Sumisu (talk) 12:04, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nu metalcore[edit]

I added a source that calls them nu metal revival. may we add nu metalcore please? ~// This is a contribution by The Edit King 👑 \\~ 23:42, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's definitely sourced, but even if a genre is sourced it doesn't necessarily have to be included if it is considered unlikely to be true. (While my opinion doesn't matter) I still don't understand the reference to Beartooth being a nu metal or a nu metalcore band, other than the occasional groovy riff (i.e. The Lines), but a groove doesn't make it nu metal, Pantera have grooves and I wouldn't call them nu metal. I think we should see if we can get a consensus, personally I'm against it. Issan Sumisu (talk) 07:38, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New Beartooth album Disease[edit]

tracklist

  1. Greatness or Death
  2. Disease
  3. Fire
  4. You Never Know
  5. Bad Listener
  6. After All
  7. Manipulation
  8. Enemy
  9. Believe
  10. Infection
  11. Used and Abused
  12. Clever

source: http://www.bringthenoise.com/blog/beartooth-detail-new-album-disease-following-new

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