Talk:Burhan Wani/Archive 1

Archive 1

Protected edit request on 10 July 2016

Change "Lakhs of people" to "Hundreads of thousands of people" as Indian numbering system is not very well known outside of South Asia. 2001:14BA:16FC:ED00:9177:263E:D5CC:219B (talk) 00:34, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

•  Not done Please obtain consensus for your requested changes on the talk page before making an edit request. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 04:56, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

remove category of terrorism

please remove category of terrorism from this article cuz this resembles like Indian point of view.--Baltistani (talk) 07:48, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Untitled

Both the Biography and the Aftermath are poorly written, and many of the statements made are heresay. Considering that most of these events took place in the last few days, and because of its politically sensitive nature of the article, I request that this article be edited more thoroughly. Perhaps, a brief couple of lines about him would suffice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.181.220.157 (talk) 13:41, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 9 July 2016

Please remove the date of birth from the infobox as it is unsourced. I cannot find any reliable source for it anywhere. 117.199.93.94 (talk) 22:49, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

•  Not done Please obtain consensus for your requested changes on the talk page before making an edit request. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 04:56, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

An unsourced statement does not need a consensus. It's unsourced and such statement can be removed. 117.199.87.231 (talk) 16:31, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 10 July 2016

The number of people who participated in funeral is wrongly quoted as lakhs. No source quoted.

>>Lakhs of people attended Burhan's funeral according to some estimates.<< should be changed to >>Thousands attended Burhan's funeral according to some estimates.<< 59.88.156.11 (talk) 19:31, 10 July 2016 (UTC)http://www.sify.com/news/militant-burhan-wani-killing-over-20-000-attend-funeral-news-national-qhjmEcgfjafgh.html 59.88.156.11 (talk) 19:31, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

•  Done as uncontroversial. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 19:40, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 9 July 2016

An unregistered editor has constantly removed the sections of service years for eg. here:[1] battles and rank from the infobox without offering any explanation at all. These sections are always present, even for terrorists/militants. Can it please be added back? These sections are important and informational in an infobox. 117.199.93.94 (talk) 22:34, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

•  Not done Please obtain consensus for your requested changes on the talk page before making an edit request. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 04:56, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Consensus is inclusion of all legitimate concerns of all editors in case of disuptes. The editor who removed these blocks which contained sourced information in the infobox and he didn't even give any reason. But it seems he did so because the subject is a militant and he wants the article to explicity state that he's a terrorist . According to WP:TERRORIST this is not allowed, and most likely personal POV of hating terrorists is involved in his edits as well. I'm guessing but regardless the rules weren't followed. You're replying to everyone to obtain a consensus. If we have to obtain a consensus for every obvious small thing, I don't see what use at all does edit requests have.117.199.87.231 (talk) 16:37, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

• The point of full protection is to prevent edit warring and encourage editors to discuss the content dispute on the talk page. You may very well be correct, but please follow dispute resolution to solve the issue. Edit requests on fully protected pages are meant to either make uncontroversial edits or edits that have consensus, not to revert back to the preferred version of one editor without discussion. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 19:44, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

When an editor outright violates the policies in his edit, starts pushing his own personal POV and becomes disruptive, he has to be reverted. Disruption and personal preference aren't allowed at all on Wikipedia. 117.199.87.231 (talk) 22:30, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Casualties

Please write 33 Civilians were killed and more than 300 injured till 12 July 2016, instead of 11 people have died so far and over 200 people have been injured in the clashes. 96 security personnel have been injured in the clashes as well. Support2016 (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

References

Image

please add this below pic as it is important and relevant to this page

File:Burhan Wani.png

Burhan wani also known as the Robin Hood of Kashmir

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Support2016 (talk • contribs) 07:58, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Add this pic as it is relent to the article and is must for better understanding of the person well. Support2016 (talk) 10:00, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:21, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

@Support2016: Please leave this proposal on the talk page for a day or two, and see if anyone has any comments. If there is no opposition, please feel free to reactivate the request. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

It is just adding the photo of the person about whom this page is all about, so there is no need of consensus. 116.75.132.31 (talk) 10:28, 12 July 2016 (UTC)Please refer his companion as Terrorists not as Fighters,they haven't done anything that we can call them Fighters.

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Can this image (File:Burhan_Wani.png) please be added. --SMS ^Talk 14:00, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Have you people ever heard of discussing a change? Please stop with the edit requests and actually start talking. I've added the image as there have been multiple requests for that. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:17, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 14 July 2016

Title should be Burhan Muzaffar Wani (Freedom Fighter) murdered by Indian Army 66.46.193.194 (talk) 14:38, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done, please review our neutrality policy. Article titles and content must be neutral. Thanks, Nakon 22:41, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 13 July 2016

Please add the photo or pic of Burhan Wani's funeral, which is available in the link and it is most important to understand this person, who is under discussion in this page. It is very very important.

There is no need of consensus for adding the photo graph of funeral as it will rightly highlight the person to whom we are discussing here. I think this photo is must for understanding it well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Support2016 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

There is no copyright in this picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Support2016 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 15 July 2016 (UTC) Support2016 (talk) 22:24, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done, at this time. Please gain consensus for this addition on this talk page and feel free to request again once a consensus has been established. Thanks, Nakon 22:42, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I think a picture of the funeral crowds would be useful. But you need to get a license for the picture and upload it to Wikimedia before it can be considered. This particular picture is not great. An ideal picture would highlight the emotions of the mourners. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:02, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

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The templates should be removed

The templates should be removed as the issues mentioned appeared to have been solved. I think the issues about factual accuracy and not including all significant viewpoints have been resolved completely. Also I think the issues of other two templates about being slanted towards recent events and meeting Wikipedia's quality standars have been resolved as well although I'm not completely sure about the recent events one. Do you agree on whether all the templates should be removed? 117.199.87.116 (talk) 01:56, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Changed estimated figure of funeral attendees as figure given by source was something else

The source stated that according to some estimates, lakhs attended some funeral however in the article it was written thousands. I have changed the number of funeral attendees to lakhs so it remains in line with what the source is saying. Please don't add what is not in source and if you want to then please bring another reliable source that says such a thing. Thank you. 117.199.87.116 (talk) 00:36, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

• This is English Wikipedia and uses English-language numerals. Please do not replace English with other languages here. — kashmiri ^TALK 16:08, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Content dispute

How amazing? The article is full-protected, and there is absolutely no discussion on the talk page! Would somebody care to describe what the problems are? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 01:09, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

• Protection has expired. — kashmiri ^TALK 16:11, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Protect Page Again

There is a user 117.199.87.116 who is unnecessary changes the text and making it some different issue. This is about a person and not discussing about kashmiri pandiths. Please protect this page as it has been diluted by him again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Support2016 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done Your own edits are inconsistent with what you're saying. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:53, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

The Kashmiri Pandits have been affected due to the unrest caused by Wani's death. So it's mentioning definitely belongs here. That's all there is to say. Do not try to impose your POV upon others. The real ones diluting and twisting this page according to their own prefernces and beliefs are people like you. 117.214.245.178 (talk) 20:07, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Also please note that this User:Support2016 told me in his edit summary to present "my views from Kashmiri point of view". It seems like he doesn't know that we do not present our own view here or one specific view nor any specific group's view. From this person's edit summary. person's objective seems to clearly present the article from a Kashmiri stand-point and not to keep it neutral and his statement even seem oddly familiar to User:Exciting2015. In fact Support2016's account was created just 2 days (see his account log here) after Exciting2015 was blocked. User:NeilN, please conduct an investigation. These accounts seem to be the same person to me since he is making the same kind of statement about the Kashmiri Pandits and he says this about me: "the article has been diluted by him again". If I need to make a request at ANI, do inform me. 117.214.245.178 (talk) 20:22, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Continued on IP's talk page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:41, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Also please note this too, he never even reverted or disputed with me about Kashmiri Pandits, his actual point of dispute was Indian and Pakistani reactions. So it is even more odd why he is claiming about Kashmiri Pandits. 117.214.245.178 (talk) 20:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Courcelles has protected because of socking. IP, you'll have to use the editrequest template if you wish to suggest changes. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:59, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

No problem. But I suspect this won't be the last time Exciting2015 appears again, please do keep an eye on this article for any suspected sock. 117.214.245.178 (talk) 21:06, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Indian and Pakistani reaction

I agree with Kautilya3. Normally a biographical article does not contain reactions (at least not detailed) to that person's death especially not international reactions. It didn't occur to me earlier. I'm ok with it being removed now. Are you ok with removing the Pakistani and Indian reactions. 117.214.245.178 (talk) 20:40, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Since they are directly about the person, they can belong here. No bar on international reactions. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:23, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Ok then. Also notice I finally created an account because fliter prevents me sometimes from posting on talk page for unknown reasons despite me saying nothing wrong. I'll be using this handle from now on: DinoBambinoNFS (talk) 21:43, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2016

burhan muzaffar wani was a commander of freedom fihjting group in jammu and kashmir occupied by india. Nadiabatoolbatool (talk) 17:15, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 17:29, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2016

Please add the pic of this person so that to understand him well. His pic is available on internet and if you need i can forward you. Add it same way as pic of other persons is available in Wikipedia. Durgahprasad (talk) 11:37, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: We can't just add any picture, it has to be under a free license, we can't use "fair use" images, per WP:NFC#UULP. – nyuszika7h (talk) 12:59, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2016

Being Kashmiri i request wikipedia to allow me to correct the misinformation published by Indian Media about Burhan Muzaffar Wani, Wikipedia must be unbiased here to respect the people of kashmir who view this personality as Hero , Children ,woman, old watch pics of this Burhan with tearful eyes.

14.139.63.194 (talk) 05:44, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:21, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2016

This is very important article and related with the current situation in Jammu Kashmir of India, so why to delete it. Yes it needs improvement which will be done after depreciating sign is deleted. There is no need to delete it.

Delhidelhi (talk) 06:59, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

that is not a semi-protected edit request and the place to discuss the deletion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burhan Muzaffar Wani not here - Arjayay (talk) 13:28, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2016

There is no good flow in the article, which needs to be modified as there is information which is to some extent biased. But page is important so instead of deleting, change the editing by allowing its editing

Durgahprasad (talk) 07:17, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not made a request in the form "Please replace XX with YY" or "Please add ZZ between PP and QQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 13:28, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2016

There is no correct coherence in the beginning of this article. So Please change this text "Burhan Muzaffar Wani, also known as Burhan Wani was a poster boy for and the commander of Kashmiri militant group[7] Hizbul Mujahideen whose social media campaign had an outreach among a section of Kashmiri Muslim youth. He was killed in an encounter with the Indian security forces on 8 July 2016

to

Burhan Muzaffar Wani, also Known as Burhan Wani was a Commander of Kashmiri based Hizbul Mujahideen, which is fighting in Kashmir against Indian rule. He was very famous due to his grip on social media and has issued many photos and videos on social media against Indian rule in Kashmir. His death in an encounter with Indian security forces have given a new look to the Freedom struggle in Indian controller Kashmir. With his death on July 8, 2016, more than 48 civilians were killed by Indian security forces and curfew is in Kashmir valley continuously from the last 12 days. Even many television channels and all news paper publications were shut down. Due to mass agitation in Kashmir, Congress party wants now political solution to Kashmir Dispute

References

Sleepersleep (talk) 20:59, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:21, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Adding a note in article about WP:TERRORIST

It seems a lot of people who add the word terrorist to militants like Burhan don't know that WP:TERRORIST does not allow this. Even though the policy van be mentioned in the edit summary, some people might not read the edit summary. So I suggest we add a note that detailing WP:TERRORIST does not allow mentioning militants as terrorists, with the note being visible only while editing the article not while reading it. DinoBambinoNFS (talk) 18:22, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

No need for this to do, keep it unchanged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleepersleep (talk • contribs) 18:46, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2016

I have send the edit request on July 20 but it has not been done yet. It is an important change in the beginning of the page instead of what is being written there and hope to be done soon, which is completely neutral

Sleepersleep (talk) 20:07, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: See previous decline. — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:20, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Funeral attendance

Please read this which states only 12000 to 15000 people not 200,000 as per this article. it does have good further clarity http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/kashmir-protests-terrorist-burhan-wani-death-hizbul-mujahideen-commander-indian-army-2935784/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbi911 (talk • contribs) 06:09, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2016

Two Lakh in Funeral

More than 2 lakh people have attended his funeral. Read souces. So re-edit the page again. Durgahprasad (talk) 11:40, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

✓ I will summarise all the views in the sources after I have looked through them. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:59, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

References

Discretionary sanctions

Lay off the edit warring please. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:11, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Reverted Edit - 07 Aug 2016

Can someone confirm if Hizb-ul-Mujahideen is a mercenary force operating as a gun for hire? If yes, it should be prominently mentioned that he is a mercenary. Below are a few links I can dig off, supporting this view. Hizb-ul-Mujahideen pays salary to active cadres: NIA to court http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Hizb-ul-Mujahideen-pays-salary-to-active-cadres-NIA-to-court/articleshow/26800347.cms ISI using cross-border trade to fund Hizbul Mujahideen: NIA http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/ISI-using-cross-border-trade-to-fund-Hizbul-Mujahideen-NIA/articleshow/26872013.cms Cbk123 (talk) 12:20, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I don't see the sources stating that Hizb is a mercenary force. If you have a source that says that says that Burhan Wani was paid a salary, please feel to add it, nothing more. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:54, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Please explain what the title means - funded by ISI to operate in Indian controlled Kashmir. Before deciding, note that it is not a Pakistani government wing and Kashmir is not ruled by Pakistan. In what capacity can a Pakistani government funded private entity operate in a foreign country as an armed force? Cbk123 (talk) 19:06, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Please stick to sources and refrain from interpreting them. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:09, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

The sources clearly mention that Hizb pays it’s employees and Pakistani Government ensures it gets money for it’s acts in India. What is there left for me to interpret? If wikipedia is for ideological propaganda and not to present the facts in the correct picture, please maintain it as such. I will refrain from providing any additional facts whatsoever. Adieu.Cbk123 (talk) 19:15, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

@Cbk123: This is a biographical article on Burhan Muzzaffar Wani, not a study on funding sources for Hizbul Mujahideen. Wikipedia also does not follow any political agenda, please familiarise yourself with WP:N. — kashmiri ^TALK 08:41, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

If it is a biographical entry, it will metion which company he works for, how much he is paid and what the company does/how the company operates. I don't understand what are we going to achieve by hiding this information from public view. Or, are you saying that this piece is not notable enough according to Wikipedia standards? If yes, I would want to contest this upfront. By the way, deposition by a government before a court of law doesn't have anything to do with political agenda. As to the authenticity which you claim to question, Indian government is the legal entity which represents Kashmir in all international forums and all the information I presented is available in proceedings of Indian courts and UN, which are free for anyone to sift through. Any questions?Cbk123 (talk) 13:54, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

You are creating an issue which doesn't even exist and thinking everybody else with another opinion is wrong. All militant organisations pay money to their fighters and are funded to an extent by others. Doesn't mean they are mercenaries. Besides I don't see any source calling Wani or Hizbul Mujahideen as "mercenaries". We cannot make our own interpretations on Wikipedia. Besides Hizbul is never called an "armed force". I do not see any source saying Hizbul or Wani was "hired" by Pakistan. "Funding" something does not mean "hiring", scientists or a NGO for example are "funded" for their scientific projects/medical projects etc. but that isn't equal to "getting hired by a company". Hizbul is not a "company" not Burhan Wani was a "gun for hire" per the sources. You should try to properly understand the sources yourselves instead of explaining it to others. DinoBambinoNFS (talk) 10:10, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Removal of service years, battles/wars and rank

User:Ekvastra has twice removed [2][3] service years, battles/wars and rank from Burhan Wani' s infobox.:

• First removal, he gave the reason there is no reference and it isn't a job/post. He also claimed it was unclear that he was part of Hizbul Mujahideen and his family denies it. He says this despite all of the content he removed actually simply shows a militant activity, not a job/post. These sections are used in all articles regarding terrorists/militants. Not only that his years in militancy (service years), rank and his involvement in insurgency (battle) was already referenced in the article. Also there's a source that portrays his family's admission of his involvement in militancy and his family has never denied his involvement. Ekvastra gave clearly wrong reasons for removing sourced content. He likely didn't check out the sources clearly nor properly read the article, because someone who has can't give such clearly incorrect reasons which don't even exist.
• The second time he removed it basing it on WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, he seems to be implying I can't justify adding something based on other articles. However WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is about creation and deletion of articles, not their editing which it doesn't talk about anyway. Clearly he didn't read the policy. Even if he didn't, he can't remove sourced content based on reasons like "Other stuff exists". It has to be justified. And do note he doesn't even contest that his reasons given for his first removal were wrong.

These articles about militants have been very contentious over the most minor of things. So he doesn't remove it again atleast without discussing about it, I have started this discussion. I hope instead of removing it again, he will instead try to talk it out first. DinoBambinoNFS (talk) 17:41, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

The article says it is not established if he was a terrorist leader. His post or his tenure. There are multiple interpretations. How is one more credible over other? Explain yourself, give conclusive reference and add the content. If you think you can force your way and abuse others to talk on your terms I don't appreciate it. --Ekvastra (talk) 14:04, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

User:Ekvastra The article clearly says he was a militant. You don't even veeify your own claim yet you tell me to rwference my own claim. Besides the article only calls him a "militant", not a terrorist. Calling somebody a terrorist is not allowed on Wikipedia, although the meaning of militant and terrorist as it can be used in negative way, although the meaning of the two words can be considered the same. The article never says it is not established he is a militant, yet you claim something else. You have been forcing your own edits and abusing and even offending me. And you've done it again. Yet ironically you blame me for it, like I'm the offender yet you remove sourced content based on wrong claims. Here's some of the references from the artcle clearly saying he was a miltant:

• From [4]: Security forces on Friday gunned down Kashmir’s topmost militant Burhan Wani, a 22-year-old whose pictures flooded Facebook and WhatsApp and escapades assumed mythic proportions, striking the insurgency a sledgehammer blow but leaving the state coiled in nervous apprehension of a backlash. - ABPLive clearly stating Burhan was a militant.

• From [5]: Burhan was one of the first militants from Kashmir to reveal his face and identity on social media, belittling security forces of the country. - Huffington Post calls Burhan a militant.

• From [6]: Burhan was the first local militant, after 1990, to become known in almost every Kashmiri household by his name, primarily because people could relate to him and his story."- This Indian Express article learly calls him a militant.

• From [7]: His younger brother, Burhan, turned a militant when he was a 16-year-old and brought upon his family an endless string of daily raids by the police and the Army and regular detentions. - The Hindu stating Burhan was a militant.

• From [8]: Six months later, Burhan, then a 15-year-old Class X student, left his home and joined Hizbul Mujahideen militants who operated in Tral, a cluster of 114 villages surrounded by high mountains and dense forests - Indian Express stating Burhan had joined militancy when he was 15.

• From [9]: Violent protests on Saturday in Kashmir over Hizbul Mujahideen militant Burhan Muzaffar Wani's killing by security forces in Anantnag district have left eight persons dead and several injured - International Business Times calling him a militant.

The other sources too clearly refer to him a militant. Posting them all here will be lengthy, so please check the other sources from the article yourself. No source ever states he was not a militant. This proves that you never attempted to carefully study the sources or the article, yet you try to order around others. You didn't even reference your own claim. Will you please try to verify your own claim instead of repeatesly acting like you WP:OWN the article? DinoBambinoNFS (talk) 17:03, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

@Ekvastra: The article describes him as a militant and a "commander" of Hizbul Mujahideen. It is not clear what your objection is to adding service years. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:20, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Kautilya3, I've been telling him this since the beginning. He claims that the article says it is not established if he was a militant. He didn't even prove or reference his claim. However, the article never said such a thing that he wasn't a militant. In fact, the article and all the sources clearly agree he was a militant and a commander of Hizbul Mujahideen. DinoBambinoNFS (talk) 16:35, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Okay, it reads like an army description, that is confusing, good that there is a clear consensus that he was militant. Dino came with quite condescending attitude. He got what he put, in words and action. --Ekvastra (talk) 05:29, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Well, Hizb-ul-Mujahdeen pays it’s employees. It’s a known fact referenced by Indian Intelligence Department formally. If his formal designation in Hizb-ul-Mujahideen is a commander, so be it. But, in case it is given as a commander and his service is to be mentioned, the services offered by his employer should also be mentioned, which, sadly is, gun for hireCbk123 (talk) 12:29, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

References

"Paid employee" and "mercenary" are two different things. Hizb never advertises itself as being available for hire to anyone, so it is definitely not a mercenary force. BTW, Indian Army also pays its employees - will you call them "guns for hire"? — kashmiri ^TALK 08:45, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

The infobox isn't an army description. The military person infobox is used in every militant article to show their activity. Besides, militants have a rank as well and they fight in battles ofcourse. Only one section, the "Service years" might look like an army description but it is an integral part of the military person infobox which is the only one used to show a militant's activity. If I change name of "Service years" something else it won't show up. Unless, Wikipedia creates a separate militant infobox, this problem won't be solved. DinoBambinoNFS (talk) 10:44, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

I've put up a request for creation of a separate infobox for militants at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Separate infobox for militants. Please feel free to add your opinion about a potential new infobox there. DinoBambinoNFS (talk) 13:26, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2016

Adding Picture of Burhan

To make the page attractive, there should be picture of Burhan Muzaffar Wani, as is in other bibliographical articles. I think it is must and some one should upload it. NDLSpint (talk) 11:04, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload.
Once the file has been properly uploaded, please reactivate this request, (by changing answered=y to answered-no in the top line) and link to the image you want added.
Please note that the picture must not be copyright, which excludes almost all images that you find on the internet, in magazines etc., and you will need proof that it is not copyright, just saying it is not copyright is not acceptable. - Arjayay (talk) 14:42, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2016

I have uploaded the picture of this man in Wikipedia. Please do the needful accordingly. File:Burhan_Muzaffar_Wani.jpg JimeyTAG (talk) 21:39, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Done MeowMoon (talk) 23:12, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Undone: This request has been undone. The image is a copyright violation. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:23, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@JJMC89: Sorry about that! I kind of figured that if the image was a copyright violation that it would have been taken down eventually... MeowMoon (talk) 23:36, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2016

I object to the word commander used in reference to Burhan wani. He was a terrorist and henceforth should be referred like that. He was associated with Hizbul-Mujahedeen which is a designated terrorist organization. It is designated a terrorist organization by India,[1] the European Union[2] and the United States

202.67.5.150 (talk) 11:18, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - Terrorist organizations have commanders, like many other organizations, and that is how he was often referred to. - Arjayay (talk) 11:22, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2016

Some one has made a change in the first paragraph of the article by mentioning Burhan a terrorist and Pakistani agent, while as truth is he has never travel to pakistan nor has anything to do with such allegations. Yes for Indiam he is a terrist and for pakistan a freedom fighter and same with Kashmir. I request you to read about him from authentic sources but being a neutral person as he was forced to pickup gun by india in 2010. So please undo the editing and keep it as it was before. Thanks Ydhfuut (talk) 20:30, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

 Done. I reverted the edit. Please double check. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:54, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Note by the way that he wasn't "forced" to pick up the gun. His brother didn't, even though he was the one who was allegedly beaten up. You are welcome to have your views, but please don't try to use them as rationale for editing Wikipedia. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:57, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2016

Please change the opening lines from "Burhan Muzaffar Wani, also known as Burhan Wani, was a terrorist commander of the Azad Kashmir-based Hizbul Mujahideen financed by the Army of Pakistan" to "Burhan Muzaffar Wani, also known as Burhan Wani, was a commander of the Azad Kashmir-based Hizbul Mujahideen group" because the term 'terrorist' is value-laden and so, inherently biased, and the comment that Hizbul Mujahideen is funded by Pakistan army is hearsay. Additionally, no major international news outlets refer to the said person as a terrorist. He is addressed as a separatist commander/rebel leader and other such neutral terms.

Yvle (talk) 19:16, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

See below. If you are operating multiple user accounts, please note that it is against Wikipedia policy to do so. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:04, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2016

He is the commander of Hizbul Mujahideen and Indian citizen

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:48, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2016

Adding Photo of Burhan Wani to make this article interested, administrators of this page are requested to search any photo of this man which is without licence to upload the same in the article so that people in the world can know and see Burhan wani. There are many of his photos without licence on internet. Fisaannath22 (talk) 10:36, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload.
Once the file has been properly uploaded, please reactivate this request, (by changing answered=y to answered-no in the top line) and link to the image you want added.
Please note that the picture must not be copyright, which excludes almost all images that you find on the internet, in magazines etc., and you will need proof that it is not copyright, just saying it is not copyright is not acceptable. - Arjayay (talk) 11:37, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2016

SHIKHAR96 (talk) 08:19, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 08:26, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2016

i want add Pictures of Burhan Muzzafar Wani

Feeqa Nalky wala (talk) 12:04, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now:

If you took the picture yourself, and are prepared to issue the photograph on a suitable Creative Commons copyright license - allowing anyone to use it for almost any purpose, including charging for it - then you should upload it to Wikimedia commons. To do that, click "Upload file" in the left hand column then "Commons wizard" then follow the instructions.

If you did not take the picture yourself, as the subject is now dead, a picture could be added under a claim of fair use. Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded at Files For Upload, linking to the picture you propose using, and explaining that the subject is dead.

Once the file has been properly uploaded then come back here, give the name of the file (please be sure to copy the exact title) and your proposed caption, and re-activate your request by changing "answered=y" to "answered=no" on the first line of this thread .
We cannot use all the photos that are uploaded, it will depend how good your photo is, as to whether it is used or not. - Arjayay (talk) 14:16, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Burhan Wani is not a member of any armed force hence commander is inappropriate.

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The number of people at his funeral is irrelevant to why he is notable. He is only notable as a trouble make insurgent and militant. He was apparently well known for impregnating Kashmiri-Muslim women if that is reliable then include that too. Please do not be selective. Wiki pages are not designed to make people look like folk heros. Stop deleting unreliable or poorly sourced information. There is not independent verification that he was a commander. A Commander is a Naval Rank just about Lt. Commander and below Captain. Otherwise commander is a generic term applied to the immediate head of a formation of any branch of any armed force belonging to a sovereign nation. KAshmir is not a sovereign nation and therefore does not have an armed force. He was never a member of the Indian Armed forces and there is no evidence that he belonged to Pakistan's either. Even if he did PAkistan vehemently denies it. Ragtag guerillas and insurgent do not merit such a write up.23:52, 26 November 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:C7D7:E590:9024:B75A:40CF:3883 (talk) 2602:30A:C7D7:E590:9024:B75A:40CF:3883 (talk) 23:56, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

• The infobox makes clear that he was a "commander" of the Hizbul Mujahideen. Comparison to the ranks of any other armed forces is inappropriate and irrelevant. (See also this link for a relevant discussion at WP:MILHIST.)
• The attendance at the funeral is well-sourced, and the reliable sources think it is notable. Your personal opinion makes no difference here. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 00:27, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Removal box, rank, service and campaigns

These do not apply to militants or insurgents. Military titles are only for members of sovereign nations, not underground militants or guerillas or terrorists. Violates WP:MILHIST. Thank you.02:22, 27 November 2016 (UTC) -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30a:c7d7:e590:9024:b75a:40cf:3883 (talk • contribs)

I have given a link to the discussion at WP:MILHIST. The consensus there is that the same infobox applies to military persons and militants. If you want to argue further, you need to do so there, not here. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:49, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Scrutiny of ref placements required

This article has many references placed inappropriately. For example, opinion articles can't be supportive refs for claims as has been used here. Another example is in few cases ref doesn't support the text for which it has been placed. A close scrutiny is needed. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 03:38, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

What does popular mean?

The article has repetitive mention of him being popular on social media. What does "popular" mean? It is ambiguous and misleading. Please clarify, whether popular means no of followers, shares, likes or something else. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 03:26, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

I think the meaning of "popular" is perfectly clear from the fact that 200,000 people went to his funeral. If you want more detail, please dig into the sources. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:39, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

How do you know 200,000 went? Were you there, maybe one of you siblings parents, close friends. The source for 200,000 is a SWAG and not verifiable. To say that 200,000 went but later changed to 15,000-20,000 is simply a sneaky way of trying to introduce and unverified fact. The sources are circular and tautological violates WP:VERIFY.

BTW did Kautilya3 not apologize to me one time before for the same edit warring?12:31, 28 November 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:C7D7:E590:A4A2:9805:63B8:6794 (talk)

Occupied Jammu and Kashmir

The article mentions Jammu and Kashmir as a part of India. Can Jammu and Kashmir kindly be noted as disputed territory for the sake of neutrality?? Alterntiavely we can always call a spade a spade and mention it as Occupied Jammu Kashmir MiseryMaker87 (talk) 12:33, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Please see WP:NPOV. You need to find consensus among reliable sources to make such claims. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:13, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2017

Please change the phrase "Indian administered Kashmir" to "Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir" as Jammu & Kashmir is an integral part of India. 120.138.124.154 (talk) 19:56, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Already done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:23, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Not a militant

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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i=I would like to contend that Burhan Wani was not a militant. Textbook definitions of the term include those individuals that have been 'involved in confrontational or violent action' there is not enough substantive evidence to say whether Mr. Wani was even part of a militant group to begin with, let alone decisive evidence to indicate that he participated in any militant activities or operations. I suggest the protections on this page be dislodged and the term 'militant' edited to something more neutral like noted social media personality etc.Mehreen37 (talk) 18:30, 14 November 2017 (UTC)Mehreen

The description is written as per reliablel sources and the Wikipedia verifiability policy. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:39, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

He was not a militant . He was freedom fighter of his Nation and he should be classed as freedom fighter Balochishtan (talk) 06:43, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

[[User:|]] Is most likely a sock, one edit (here) - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 18:52, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

yes, yes "Mr" Burhan Wani ji was an intellectual scholar and a freedom fighter... You can yourself class him as a freedom fighter in the article as everybody is free to edit Wikipedia... --Adamstraw99 (talk) 08:00, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

That is not a helpful comment Adamstraw99.

Balochishtan, Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view. The fact that some groups regard him as a "freedom fighter" is not enough to LABEL him as such. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:14, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Balochishtan, You are saying "He was freedom fighter of his Nation", I promise as soon as you disclose his nation I will add freedom fighter label iN this article with reliable verifiable sources... thank you.. --Adamstraw99 (talk) 11:04, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Adamstraw99 Please go ahead now as several sources agree that Kashmiris are a nation [10] [11] [12] [13]. See also the Wikipedia definition of a nation. — kashmīrī ^TALK 15:27, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Kashmiri, these sources are truly like gems, thanks for sharing them but you have increased my work because now first I will have to change this article's description which is saying "Kashmir is the northernmost geographical region of the Indian subcontinent."... First we need to change the description of that article but I have a feeling that its an uphill task and hectic talkpage discussions etc. will be required to get the desired changes. Once it is done I will update this legend as a "freedom fighter of his nation"... Sadly we have to discover the nation first and convince the community about it... Please feel free to share more valuable source like these and I Am sure we will achieve our objective... thanks --Adamstraw99 (talk) 15:45, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Adamstraw99 Please don't change it. Please also don't change Scotland, which is the northernmost part of the United Kingdom, even as Scottish people are a nation as you can see there (better don't try to change it, either). By the way, Jammu & Kashmir is also a state in India that has own history and even own constitution - perhaps it was convenient for you to forget it. — kashmīrī ^TALK 16:21, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Kashmiri, lets not talk about Scotland and UK since this talk page restricts general discussions.. but if we don't change the description of Kashmir article how do we add Burhan Wani was a "freedom fighter of his nation"? this is difficult...Also Jammu and Kashmir article somehow say that it is an indian state and not a nation..this is more disheartening.. I think we can list him as "freedom fighter of his state" or something.. what do you suggest to move forward in this? Adamstraw99 (talk) 17:13, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Folks, this is a very very WP:FORUMy discussion. Please cut it out. This article is under WP:Discretionary sanctions. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:48, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: I think a discussion whether Kashmiris are a nation or not is a pretty valid subject on Wikipedia, don't you think so? Sure Adam and me are doing this is a light manner instead of a proper fight as it is customary in India-Pak relations. Still, please we are not at a sanction stage as yet. Cheers, — kashmīrī ^TALK 19:36, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

@Adamstraw99: By your logics, there was no "Indian nation" until 1947, was it? — kashmīrī ^TALK 10:19, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Kashmiri This is a broad topic dating back 73,000-55,000 years, This was a united land for centuries but this mess is created by this event and we are in deadlock due to various interpretation of that unfortunate incident.. this topic needs discussion but I AGREE with Kautilya3 that this talk page is not right place to carry this discussion... So, I will not comment any further because I want to continue using this account for long-term Wikipedia editing in future and inviting sanctions for anything this stupid is not a good idea .. Please initiate a broader discussion at proper venue to get desired changes to this guy's article... Best Regards... Adamstraw99 (talk) 10:53, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Well, I for once will not agree that the concept of nation dates back to the Stone Age, but I agree that this can be discussed elsewhere. As to OP, a "fighter" is an entirely appropriate word, although to be fair, Indian/Pakistani occupying forces in Kashmir can also be called "fighters for their nation". So, let's stick with the accepted term "militant". By the way, I somewhat hesitate to use the term "commander" in the Kashmir contect as it is poorly defined and customarily used for pretty much any militant who has a few people under him. Yes HuM technically have Area Commanders, District Commanders, etc., but Burhan Wani for example was not one of them – it is the media who called him a "commander". — kashmīrī ^TALK 12:51, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, no. Commander is a specific rank in Hizbul Mujahideen and Burhan Wani was appointed to it. I can dig up a source if there is any contention. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:15, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2017

Brhan Muzafar Waniu was o freedom fighter not a terrorist , please remove the word islamic terrorist from his name. you are showing biseness by providing this image , that should not be. 182.187.28.130 (talk) 10:03, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:50, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

• I've changed it in line with the source. If terrorist is to be added, please provide a source. --regentspark (comment) 19:47, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Hey writer' if u will not make changes. I will then write another article on Burhan Wani. Your article is biased! ReclusZee (talk) 13:39, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2019

Change Millitant to Terrorist 223.230.165.175 (talk) 17:57, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Such a change would go against WP:TERRORIST. — kashmīrī ^TALK 18:10, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

He wasn't killed but neutralize by Indian Army. There is lots of difference between the words killed and neutralize. Shaant nishant (talk) 09:31, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Sources

• https://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/kashmir-burhan-wani-home-article-370_in_5d9887fde4b03b475f99ce05
• https://journals.uio.no/index.php/JEA/article/view/4688

Shoddy journalism

• This mentions that Burhan had scored more than 90 per cent marks in class ten while this News18 piece claims ten days before his annual exam, Burhan left home saying he was going to the market and never returned.

• Did he appear in the Boards whilst absconding from his home?! ∯WBG^converse 14:41, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

• Resolved; the percentage is of Class VIII. ∯WBG^converse 15:57, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Wrong information

Burhan Wani was not a miltant. He was freedom Fighter. Zaheer Abbasi (talk) 23:14, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Failed verification tag added on 7 June 2020

An editor changed [[Islamic terrorism|jehadism]] to Islamic terrorism.[14]

A second editor changed Islamic terrorism to jihad, and added a failed verification tag as follows:[15]

Burhan used social-media as a tool of potent information-warfare leveraging a mixture of political Islam, jihad and Kashmiri persecution in chaste Kashmiri to romanticize the militant movement and wielded unforeseen influence in the local populace as a poster-boy, attracting numerous young adults into the cause.

[1] Says that Burhan Wani had "exemplary social-media skills". It sys "a clever mix of ideology, religion and a deep sense of persecution provide Burhan enough willing recruits". It mentions the word "jihad". It says "With his Robin Hood image and mastery over social media, he and his band of brothers have made militancy look glamorous". It says that Burhan Wani "speaks chaste Kashmiri".

[2] Quotes a policeman saying that Burhan Wani "knows the power of social media and he is using it fully. Almost every other day we are hearing that he has released some video to romanticise and glorify militancy". It says Burhan Wani "has turned into the face of a resurging militancy among the youth in the area", and that Burhan "is the star of jihadi videos where he persuades young Kashmiris to join the 'holy war' with the 'promise of a fulfilled life hereafter'."

[3] Says that Burhan Wani is "adept at using social media and keeps releasing audio and video messages", and that "Police are aware of Wani's jihadi propaganda and have moved court to block Facebook pages glorifying militants."

[4] Refers to the "the killing of Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist Burhan Wani." "Burhan Wani, considered the face of young militancy in Kashmir, was among the three terrorists killed in an intelligence-led police operation yesterday [8 July 2016]."

So citation [4] only really supports that Burhan Wani was considered a "Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist". The other three citations seem to support the text.

@Kashmiri:, I agree that the citation support your changing Islamic terrorism to jihad, I do not follow why you think that the citations "fail verification". Please can you explain.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:44, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

I see no support for his use of social media as "information warfare" nor about it being "a mixture of political Islam [and] jihad". I don't think "ideology" in the source should be substituted with "political Islam", and "religion" with "jihad". There is also nothing about "romanticising the militant movement". For the record, I don't dispute the veracity of this last statement; I tagged the sentence as all those statements are not in the quoted sources. — kashmīrī ^TALK 12:39, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

• romanticising the militant movement
  [2] says "Almost every other day we are hearing that he has released some video to romanticise and glorify militancy" the police officer said."-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

• jihad
  [1], [2] and [3] all use this word.-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
  • What I have done it to replace "a mixture of political Islam, jihad and Kashmiri persecution" with a direct quotation "a clever mix of ideology, religion and a deep sense of persecution".-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:38, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

• political Islam
  none of the sources use this term. Though it could be argued that "ideology" is a synonym for it, the sources do not directly say so, so it fails Wikipedia:Verifiability. So I agree that that should be removed.-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

• information warfare the use of social media in conflicts to win hearts and minds is regarded as a form of information warfare. A note should be added explaining this. By the way the Wikipedia article on information warfare is awful.-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2020

ℍ𝕖 𝕚𝕤 𝕞𝕦𝕛𝕒𝕙𝕚𝕕 𝕟𝕠𝕥 𝕞𝕚𝕝𝕝𝕚𝕥𝕒𝕟𝕥 ℍ𝕖 𝕓𝕖𝕝𝕠𝕟𝕘 𝕥𝕠 𝕚𝕟𝕕𝕚𝕒𝕟 𝕠𝕔𝕔𝕦𝕡𝕚𝕖𝕕 𝕜𝕒𝕤𝕙𝕞𝕚𝕣 2409:4054:10D:320D:BEF3:467:FC97:1510 (talk) 04:57, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

The choice is do we call him

• a "militant"
• a "terrorist"

Wikipedia has a policy on this (MOS:TERRORIST), "Value-laden labels—such as... terrorist... may express contentious opinion and are best avoided unless widely used by reliable sources to describe the subject, in which case use in-text attribution." Fortunately, this word is widely used by reliable sources to describe Wani (though so is "militant").

There are some people who object to Wani being described as a "terrorist", and the following source explains that objection.

• Daniyal, Shoaib (27 September 2016). "How exactly does the Indian media define a 'terrorist'?". Dawn (newspaper). Retrieved 2 July 2020.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

So I guess we are stuck with "militant".-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:24, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, "militant". -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:24, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Citations for Wani being compared with Bhagat Singh

The article has a sentence as follows:

He became the face of Kashmir independence movement and was also compared with Bhagat Singh.

• Amin, Ruhail (14 July 2016), "Why Rajdeep Sardesai, Rahul Kanwal & Barkha Dutt are under attack?", Exchange4Media, Adsert Web Solutions Pvt Ltd, retrieved 2 July 2020{{citation}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  • This says: "Noted journalist Rajdeep Sardesai invited the wrath of the online brigade for drawing parallels between Burhan Wani with Bhagat Singh."
• How exactly does the Indian media define a 'terrorist'?, Dawn (newspaper), 27 September 2016, retrieved 2 July 2020{{citation}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  • Though this citation does mention Bhagat Singh in its history of the word "terrorism", there is no explicit comparison of Burhan Wani with Bhagat Singh.

-- Toddy1 (talk) 05:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Toddy1 The source you removed describes him being called a terrorist and how Bhagat Singh or other revolutionaries too used terrorism for their means. The comparison doesn't have to be direct. Not to mention the only people mentioned in this article comparing him to Bhagat Singh is Rajadeep Sardesai and his father. One person's family praising him and only one non-related person comparing him to Bhagat Singh doesn't mean we start saying he's been compared to Bhagat Singh. For that we need multiple people. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 16:53, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:No original research says that reliable published sources must directly support the material being presented.-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Comparing their methods as similar is enough. You can't get more direct. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 04:07, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Anyway I'll like you to examine this and see if it's proper enough to be included. The comparison with Bhagat Singh is made under the section titled "The refusal to engage". Hopefully it's good enough: [16]. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 04:18, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Both of the following sources make an explicit comparison of Burhan Wani and Bhagat Singh, and so are fine.

• "Separatist Mirwaiz Farooq to India Today: Like Bhagat Singh, Burhan Wani was a freedom fighter". India Today. 13 July 2016. Retrieved 12 July 2020.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
• Drèze, Jean (25 November 2016). "The new abnormal in Kashmir". The Hindu. Retrieved 12 July 2020.

I have added the latter to the article.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:31, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2021

he was not a militant, he was a freedom fighter. 72.255.57.7 (talk) 07:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- Asartea ^{Talk | Contribs} 10:30, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2021

Hi, the introduction to this page should mention that many Kashmiris regarded Wani as a freedom fighter, and that he was a very popular figure in the valley. Of course the current language saying that his organization is designated as a terrorist group should also stay. That way we are providing a balanced perspective.

See the following quotes from the BBC article cited below:

"Wani, 22, is largely credited with reviving and legitimising the image of militancy in Muslim-majority Indian-administered Kashmir."

"India considered Wani a terrorist, but for many locals he represented the spirit and political aspirations of a new Kashmiri generation."

"His video messages, which would often go viral in Kashmir, were on the topics of Indian injustice and the need for young people to stand up to oppression."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36762043.amp 208.59.190.19 (talk) 15:37, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2021

His funeral gathering was above 200000, which shows he was not a terrorist (was not the one from which people were afraid) rather he was a freedom fighter. 119.160.102.176 (talk) 07:35, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JavaHurricane 07:39, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring on short description

There has been much edit warring on the short description of this article and it needs to be discussed here to gain consensus first; though the likelihood of consensus seems remote. I think the short description was introduced at revision 899189578 with a value of "Kashmiri militant" and has generally been accepted for long periods throughout the history of this article. I have therefore re-introduced that and hope though wishing to change can demonstrate reasons for doing via consensus and discussion. Further undiscussed and non-consensus changes will likely lead to an WP:ANI report. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2022

Please remove word militant from his name as He was a freedom fighter fighting for freedom, fighting against oppression that he suffered from Indian military. Tagging him as Extremist is unfair and unjust as you don't know the humiliation our siblings suffering out there. 118.107.129.170 (talk) 14:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: see WP:RS and WP:OR Cannolis (talk) 15:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2022

Hizbul mujahideen is a US , European union ,canada ,etc recognised terrorist group then how a commander of such group can be termed as militant . My edit request is replace term militant with terrorist. 117.242.247.5 (talk) 18:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done. Wikipedia is written based on reliable sources. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:28, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

What were the efforts for which WANI was fighting

Independence for the occupied jummu kashmir 39.41.52.216 (talk) 07:06, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2023

103.211.54.8 (talk) 04:23, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

{(i would like to give correct detail about the TERRORIST BURHAN WANI )}

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Tollens (talk) 04:40, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2024

Burhan wani is Mentioned as a Commander but he was a Separatist/Terrorist So please provide me edit access to change that.

Jai Hind Flyingmach7ne (talk) 06:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: There is already a note saying that the group is recognized as a terrorist group. In addition, this is not the place to request additional user rights GrayStorm^{(Talk|Contributions)} 03:35, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2024

Loveindia123 (talk) 18:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Burhan Wani is was terrorist group commander

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shaws username . talk . 19:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)