Talk:Christianity in Anglo-Saxon England

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moved to Anglo-Saxon Christianity (redirect from Christianization of the Anglo-Saxons); 410-1066 corresponds to Anglo-Saxon England. dab (𒁳) 10:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but 'Anglo-Saxon' might by definition exclude Celtic Christianity and developments in Scotland, Wales, Ireland and North East England.Neddyseagoon - talk 10:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

well, the article doesn't discuss that, does it? it links to Celtic Christianity, where Scotland, Wales and Ireland should be treated. The awkward scope was honoured by an empty h2 section linking to Celtic Christianity. It will be much cleaner to discuss Anglo-Saxon England here, and Wales/Scotland/Ireland there, and have each refer to the other as required. Strictly, Christianity in the British isles 410-1066 could be a dab page, but the date-range makes clear that Anglo-Saxon England is intended (what happened in Ireland in 1066?) dab (𒁳) 10:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would have liked a single article on Early Insular Christianity, and if the title needed to be less anglo-centric the millennium would have been fine as an end-date. There can still be one, mostly in summary style, with more focussed articles like this one. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Early Insular Christianity sounds good too; I apologize, I thought the move would be uncontroversial. If somebody is willing to write such an overview article, that would be splendid, but as it is, the present article does in fact treat Anglo-Saxon, not pan-British, Christianity. dab (𒁳) 12:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No objections to the move here. Just thinking out loud! Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just a user reaction : this seems a vast topic to be unified into one article. Under Christianisation of the Anglo-Saxons, I would expect to see the kind of content that is already there - but the Anglo-Saxon Christianity article is fairly minimal and my feeling is that it would be better expanded to cover the roughly four centuries of Anglo Saxon Christianity post-conversion and pre-Norman, than merged? Four centuries is an awful long time to shuffle into 'after the conversions' particularly given that the Church has to deal with a new bunch of pagans during that period. Links to the Religion_and_culture section of King Alfred's entry, Asser, Aldhelm, maybe some of the Carolingian renaissance churchmen who were Anglo Saxon in origin?

I also wondered if there was some confusion re the Celtic tradition in comments above? I believe the Northumbrian Renaissance, for example, is considered Anglo Saxon and Celtic, as Augustine's work is both Anglo Saxon and Roman. The Celtic church did not just operate in areas that might now consider themselves Celtic. It's more that there is a pagan area that is more or less simultaneously Christianised by two different traditions coming from different angles. (I am aware I should maybe volunteer to write this, but I don't feel really qualified, so sorry :-( ) 82.71.104.222 (talk) 09:30, 29 July 2012 (UTC) Victoria[reply]

Battle of Hexham?[edit]

Why is this link relevant?--Streona (talk) 10:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No idea. Was it perhaps supposed to be the battle of Heavenfield? Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Translation of one of the Gospels into Anglo-Saxon?[edit]

Wasn't one of the Gospels translated into Anglo-Saxon around the 8th century? (Sorry for mistakes, English is not my native language).--213.196.248.33 (talk) 05:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Take your pick at Old English Bible translations Wilfridselsey (talk) 14:26, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 November 2018[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) –Ammarpad (talk) 06:51, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anglo-Saxon Christianity → Christianity in Anglo-Saxon England – Scope, WP:PRECISION (arguably less confusable with Christianity in contemporary Anglosphere), WP:CONSISTENCY with Christianity in Roman Britain, but also Christianity in the Middle Ages, Christianity in Medieval Scotland, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. The current title implies a special variant called "Anglo-Saxon Christianity"; the proposed title better reflects the content of the article. — AjaxSmack 03:02, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I agree with the reasons given above. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Merge with Christianisation of Anglo-Saxon England[edit]

As proposed. It seems the scope is pretty much identical. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:36, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Oppose] While there seems to be some overlap, I see them as different articles; specifically "Cristianisation" as a sub-article of this one. Some of the beginnings could be shifted (say to "Gregorian mission"), but I would like to see more of how it actually functioned socially and politically. By this I mean, at least in part, the founding of religious institutions by important, (often inter-related) families as an expression of status or power, the influence of churchmen on policy, diocesan cf. monastic presence, etc. Mannanan51 (talk) 01:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I agree with the reasons given above. In addition, the christianisation article covers the seventh century in great detail, whereas this article is little more than a stub, especially on the later history. Merging would increase the unbalanced concentration on the earlier period. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:13, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per both above - time to close this! Johnbod (talk) 15:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Entirely different WP:TOPICS. That article is about the establishment of the institution covered here. If anything, it's the first part of this historical section of this article, not the other way around. — LlywelynII 00:37, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Liturgical year[edit]

Currently, the best place to link Anglo-Saxon liturgical year is Cult of saints in Anglo-Saxon England#Saints. That's obviously less than ideal and it would be better to have the liturgical year covered in a section here and the link fixed. — LlywelynII 00:37, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]