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Missing release[edit]

One thing that I feel is missing from the table is a year of the latest release.. either that or whether the product is still under development. --32.97.110.61 (talk) 19:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Resolved: This appears to have been resolved.--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Biased/Prejudiced Article[edit]

Should be titled "Comparison of new and future theoretical office suites".

Why is Google Docs listed but not Office 365 and Office Live? Google Docs also has a LIMITED free version and a business class version which is subscription based. Some Google Docs functionality described appears to be taken from Google Business and not documented from non-Google sources. Google Apps for Business [1] inclusion would require other enterprise/business app platforms such as Amazon's, Oracle's, and Microsoft's; (Google Apps Comparison http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/index.html, also Google Cloud Connect http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/officeconnect.html).

  • Opinion: Understanding which license is required is complicated by design, features included in bundles change every few years, so people might want to upgrade to a more costly license when they realise that feature 'x' is no longer included. The article is a generalisation of the latest version, I guess we should update it in a manner that is both maintainable and fair when relative to other manufacturers products.--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

By the criteria used in this article: Office 2010, Office Live, Office 2010 Web Apps, and Office365 should be separate entries. The inclusion of Office Live with Office 2010 is an abomination born of ignorance. A careful reading of the literature would clarify that Windows Live Mail (an MSN product), nee Hotmail, is the mail client for Windows Live Office (M$ Tech Support by MSN support - "Sykes" - not Office Support); Outlook Live was included in the beta Office365 Live@EDU offering. If this article was about CURRENT Office Suites it would include Office 2007. As Microsoft end-of-support is "dynamic" (date of "no more patches" is 2014), then Office 2003 (which has a larger installed base than Open Office, Office 2007, and Office 2010 combined) should be listed. If I were choosing an Office suite for my company (or to write add-ons for or to develop for) I would want to know the existing user base (an indication of usability and future independent support).

  • Opinion: It would be too hard to maintain if we listed every compaines various offerings. Just list the latest version, use popups (efn?) for features that come or don't come with this version--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Symphony: On January 23, 2012, announced version 3.0.1 would be the last version Lotus Symphony, and their efforts would be going into the Apache OpenOffice project. When Apache OpenOffice version 4.0 is released, IBM plans to release an IBM Edition that will come with extensions to integrate it with their other products. from IBM Symphony wiki. The wiki article also notes removal of functions to paid version, IBM Workplace, not noted by comparison. Shjacks45 (talk) 21:03, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Opinion: Add enough detail that is maintainable, in particular for someone else volunteering in the future. Keep it current as I don't think what is promised in the future is relevant, the biggest companies are the most untrustworthy in this regard, they often fail to deliver on what they promise.--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/features.html

Do any office suites support Solaris anymore?[edit]

Perhaps an update to this article is in order... the article says that KOffice and Calligra support Solaris, but Solaris is not mentioned on any of these pages:

http://www.calligra.org/get-calligra
http://userbase.kde.org/Calligra/Download
http://koffice.org

GPS Pilot (talk) 23:40, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apache OpenOffice has builds for AOO 3.4. (4.0 and 4.1 don't quite work yet.) - David Gerard (talk) 12:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Resolved: This appears to have been resolved.--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Calendar Function Missing from Capabilities Comparison[edit]

A calendar function is available in Microsoft Office and perhaps other office suites. This function has many uses, both in a workgroup environment or for personal use. Perhaps this article would be the place to make this comparison between the different suites. Drodarm (talk) 22:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Resolved: This appears to have been resolved.--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

QuickOffice[edit]

pls include Quickoffice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.96.10.3 (talk) 01:37, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Quickoffice exists as an article, so could reasonably be added. If you know Quickoffice, please do add the information - David Gerard (talk) 12:29, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Resolved: This appears to have been resolved. The product was discontinued in 2014 and someone removed it from the comparison--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dead suites?[edit]

Should dead suites be removed? - David Gerard (talk) 12:10, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yes I believe dead suites should be removed. If not removed then moved to the bottom of the table and highlighted Red. If not this, then moved to another table. If not this, then prepend a column called status. Status? : Current (received an update within last year), End of Life (official last release date/version), Discontinued (last known update) 12think (talk) 06:29, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Opinion: A year later, and after highlighting them as discontinued a year ago, I now think that they should just be deleted, there are other lists that maintain sections for discontinued products, there is also the articles history that can be used to look further back. Suggest we delete them with this criteria:
    • within a few years of when it is announced they are discontinued.
    • after ~5 years without maintenance.
    • leave the most recently discontinued one/s there.

--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OpenOffice is 'Intel' only on Macs[edit]

It should be recorded somewhere that OpenOffice ONLY works for 'Intel' based Macs .... There are still quite a few pre-Intel Macs out therePincrete (talk) 13:53, 27 May 2014 (UTC

  • Resolved: I assume that this comment was made when Macs used PowerPC and they were migrating to Intel, they are now migrating from Intel to Apple Silicon. I would be surprised if OpenOffice supports Apple Silicon natively, as OpenOffice hasn't received significant updates since 2014. All I can see is that it will run on M1 devices using the Rosetta2 emulator. So it appears to run on all current Macs CPUs.--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Table sorting by operating system[edit]

The sort table function by 'operating system' is useless since the text can read "Windows/Linux/Mac", when a user would want to sort to find all suites working under Linux. Would this column be better split to 5 columns of tick-boxes? Pat Heslop-Harrison 07:19, 29 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pathh (talk • contribs)

  • Resolved: This appears to have been resolved.--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Colours[edit]

An explanation of the meaning of the colours used, would be welcome. Bever (talk) 19:17, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Resolved: This appears to have been resolved, as it seems self explanatory after comparing a few of them.--12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison of presentation software[edit]

The "See also" section refers to:

Should there also be an article:

? I know that I would find such an item useful … so might others. yoyo (talk) 13:00, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Opinion: Create an article, but first spend time checking if existing similar articles need maintaining, for all I know there may have been an article for this that was deleted because it was unmaintained. --12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Corel Office vs. Corel Word Perfect Office[edit]

Corel seems to have TWO office suites; one including Corel Write and one including Corel Word Perfect.

Can someone knowledgeable about the differences update the chart? I haven't owned either product, so I'm not sure of the differences. I couldn't find much reference to Corel Write here on Wikipedia.

Reference: http://www.wordperfect.com/en/all-products/ 

Jgwinner (talk) 22:25, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Resolved: Corel Write appears to have been included with Corel Home Office suite, this appears to have disappeared ~2015. --12think (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Microsoft Office 2010 Manufacture Origin[edit]

Since there are so many counterfeit copies of software being peddled on Amazon and e-Bay, this is an effort to provide, and hopefully obtain additional, information for those trying to purchase a legal copy of a version of Microsoft Office 2010 which is no longer available for purchase from Microsoft.

Having already purchased a counterfeit copy myself, I am attempting to gather information to help prevent this for others.

The following was extracted from skyhawk2016 on CNET Forums:

[Microsoft labels] their software as follows:

  • Windows and Office for Europe, Africa and all Emerging Markets = ORIGIN:IRELAND
  • Office 2010 Product Key Card for Europe = Made In Ireland
  • Windows and Office for Americas = Made In Puerto Rico
  • Office 2010 Product Key Card for Americas = Made In Mexico
  • Windows and Office for Asia = Made In Singapore

Counterfeiters ... print the fake Certificates of Authenticity with all multitudes of variations.

  • Made In USA = Fake
  • ORIGIN:USA = Fake
  • Made In Ireland on anything other than Office 2010 Product Key Card = Fake
  • ORIGIN:IRELAND on an Office 2010 Product Key Card. = Fake

I am still trying to verify this information.

Thank you in advance for help in this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SWgrognard (talk • contribs) 20:25, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Google Photos listed, but not Apple Photos[edit]

Under main components, why is Google Photos listed as the image viewer of G Suite? G Suite doesn't mention Google Photos, nor vice versa. And if Google Photos counts regardless, why isn't Photos listed as the image viewer of iWork? --Lucca Mito (talk) 04:09, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Resolved: Added Apple Photos--12think (talk) 06:25, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading information - Inconsistencies in the tables, perhaps use "adjunct", Yes/No/Adjunct, where adjunct is ~Partial cell in table[edit]

  • Many products answer strictly Yes/No for the products capabilities.
  • Some products have a different background colour, the colours vary, with comments for other ways that the product can achieve the capability, this is useful, although some are quite verbose. However many say No and are capable of being Yes when integrated with adjunct software, a bit harsh on them. Maybe should be clear Yes/No/Adjunct-xyz (where xyz has a recommended max chr).
  • Some products have taken this way too far, they say Yes whilst at the same time listing another products name, these should be "partial" at the most and need to be corrected

12think (talk) 23:17, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Column titles in File Formats section incorrect[edit]

  • I renamed the column called Office Open XML to Transitional Office Open XML. There are 3 incompatible versions of Microsoft's Office XML file formats (e.g. docx) as follows:
    1. ECMA-376 1st Edition (read / write by MS Office 2007; read only by MS Office 2010/2013)
    2. ISO/IEC 29500 Transitional (read / write by MS Office 2010/2013/2016/2019, Mac Office and Office Online)
    3. ISO/IEC 29500 Strict / ECMA-376 2nd Edition (read only by MS Office 2010; read / write by MS Office 2013/2016/2019).
  • I added a column for Strict Office Open XML As some vendors support this as an option, it is the intended ISO standard for OOXML, Microsoft made assurances that the Office default format will be the strict format in Office 2010, failing to deliver so far.
  • I did not add a column for ECMA-376 1st Edition, Microsoft don't claim to be able to open it in their latest software, I don't know how these Microsoft file formats are opened.
  • Compounding the confusion, Microsoft state in https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd797428.aspx that two docx file formats are called: Microsoft Word and Strict Open XML Document, similarly for Excel, etc. The words Transitional Office Open XML do not appear, so need to research to see what Microsoft mean by Microsoft Word if it is not the Transitional Office Open XML, then the column names needs to be corrected again.

12think (talk) 03:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FreeOffice missing[edit]

I was looking for the FreeOffice entry in this comparison list, but couldn' find it. Is there any special reason?--2003:CF:3F06:3A51:58B1:E03B:4A3B:6887 (talk) 18:09, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Resolved: ¨SoftMaker FreeOffice¨ is under ¨SoftMaker Office¨. --12think (talk) 10:16, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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