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CBS claims

User 68.239.246.51 recently made edits which claimed CBS aired the first two seasons of Degrassi, but pulled it due to poor ratings figures. I can't find anything anywhere online to support this, nor does it mention it in the Degrassi 411 Guidebook. I'm moving it here so that if it is true, it isn't lost and perhaps it can be verified and then added back to the article.

It premiered on CBS in the United States on October 14, 2001. After the second season, the show was dropped by CBS in the US due to low ratings, and new episodes began airing on The N, where repeats of the first two seasons were already airing.

-- Matthewedwards (talk · contribs · count · email) 22:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

It's being shown on the CW now, on late Saturday Mornings/early saturday afternoons, at least it is in the Los Angeles Market. I don't know if it is being shown nationwide on the CW.Whippletheduck (talk) 02:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I watch it every Saturday. When I'm at my parents-in-laws' house. See also Degrassi: The Next Generation#Post-broadcast distribution. KTLA (LA's CW) is owned by Tribune company. All Tribune company owned stations air strips of DTNG at some point in the week. Either, as KTLA does, in one shot, or one episode per weekday, or however they want to do it. Matthewedwards 07:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Removed paragraph

I have removed the following unsourced paragraph from the Critical Reception section.

Whereas the earlier Degrassi High featured a story arc dealing with a controversial[citation needed] inter-racial relationship and parental disapproval thereof, Degrassi: The Next Generation's characters routinely[citation needed] pursue romance with characters of other races and ethnicities. While controversy may or may not accompany such relationships on The Next Generation, the controversies are unrelated to the relationship's racial/ethnic diversity. For example: the Filipina character, Manny Santos has dated several male characters, the majority of whom are white; controversial subjects included infidelity, sexual activity among young teens, exhibitionism, extortion, pregnancy, marital engagement between teens, abortion, and dishonesty toward parents, but their differing ethnicities were regarded as of no concern.[citation needed] Likewise, the coupling of Ukrainian Paige Michalchuk with Latina Alex Nuñez and later, black Griffin Pierce-Taylor addressed, respectively, Paige's uncomfortably with the realization of her own bisexuality (despite her brother's homosexuality), and Griffin's pre-coital neglect in not warning Paige that he was born with the HIV, rather than with race or ethnicity.[citation needed] Liberty Van Zandt, another black character actively pursued J. T. Yorke, who is Caucasian,[citation needed] for the first few seasons before dating and bearing a child by him; Liberty's family's disapproval of J. T. stemmed from J. T.'s perceived irresponsibility and for defiling his daughter, not from J.T.'s ethnicity.[citation needed]

It needs tagging with {{fact}} and its cousin templates, but I am too tired to do it tonight (it's 3am here). If no one gets around to it by tomorrow, then I'll probably make a start. It also needs typos fixing, POV removing, and making sure that characters names are not WP:OVERLINKED with the rest of the article. One of the glaringly false statements (to me) is "controvertial subjects included infidelity, sexaul activity among young teens, exhibitionism, extortion, pregancy, marital engagement between teens, abortion, and dishonesty toward parents" with regards to Manny. When bringing the Degrassi articles up to Featured Status the only thing I ever read in reliable published sources about Manny's relationships was the abortion. Nothing mentioned infidelity, exhibitionism, extortion (who did she extort?), her engagement or her relationship with her parents. Nor have I seen any discussion about Paige's relationship with Griffin and his HIV status, though a few media outlets have reported on her same-sex relationship with Alex. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 09:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

More

From "Filming locations":

Unlike the original series which routinely filmed on location in real houses (typically those of the producers and writers),[citation needed] on public streets, and in stores, restaurants and hospitals, Next Generation shooting rarely ventures off of the Epitome lot.[citation needed] Location filming is largely limited to hour-long (or 2-part) epidodes such as "Mother and Child Reunion" (the series' pilot), "When Doves Cry", "White Wedding", "Father Figure", "Holiday", "Tears Are Not Enough", "Spring Break", et al.

From "Episode format"

The definition of 'kid', however, includes any character who has been seen in the Degrassi universe as a student of Degrassi Junior High, Degrassi High (in the original series), or Degrassi Community School (in the Next Generation).[citation needed] Accordingly, while most teachers (including Mr. Raditch who was a teacher and assistant principal in the earlier series) and parents would not be depicted having a private conversation with most any other adult, Mr. Simpson may be depicted doing so with anyone as he is "grandfathered"[clarification needed][citation needed] by having been a student in the original series.[citation needed] Owing to the longevity of Next Generation, several of its characters who were introduced as teens have now entered adulthood and may similarly be shown with their co-workers, university classmates and love interests,[citation needed] but these co-workers, university classmates and love interests may not be depicted without a current Degrassi student or alumnus.

From "Guest roles"

Noticeably absent[citation needed] from "White Wedding", however, are Spike's mother and Snake's parents and brother, all of whom were depicted on the earlier series. Cathy Keenan reprises her role as Liz O'Rourke, Spike's best friend in the earlier series, in the third season opener, "Father Figure", in which Liz, now a midwife, delivers Spike's and Snake's baby, Jack.[citation needed] Later that season, Neil Hope guests again in "Should I Stay or Should I Go?" when his character, Derek "Wheels" Wheeler, is encouraged by Joey to help boost Snake's morale while Snake is being treated for cancer.

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 18:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Comparison to the earlier series

I'm almost tempted to remove this entire section and place it here.In fact, I just did. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC) It is all original research. WP:BURDEN says "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material... Any material lacking a reliable source may be removed, but editors may object if you remove material without giving them sufficient time to provide references. If you want to request a source for an unsourced statement, consider tagging..." That is what I will do, if the tags are then not changed to references after a couple of days, I will move it to this talk page. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:23, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Haha yeah, I was tempted to just remove it as well. There was only one reference; the rest was original research, interpretation, or opinions of the writer; in other words, it was simply information that shouldn't be on the 'pedia. I tagged it with a {{cite-section}} just in case the user had any piece of reference that could be used, but yeah: I agree with just removing it from the article. — Kendra Michele — 04:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

The new series is similar to the style of the original, but more technologically advanced and expands the series beyond television to include an interactive website, along with having new media be a vital component of the plotlines.[1]

Degrassi Junior High and Degrassi High were jointly funded by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and Boston's Public Broadcasting station WGBH.[citation needed] As such, both series tended to avoid specifying the setting as Canada, and the stories were kept in an essentially generic North American "anytown".[citation needed] Currency and vehicle registration plates were rarely seen clearly, the classrooms had no flags, courtroom interiors were never shown, and police officers wore breast badges. Cities were rarely mentioned by name; Wheels did visit the town of Port Arthur in the third season of Degrassi Junior High,[citation needed] but few, if any, American viewers would know its location or even if it actually existed;[citation needed] just as they would not know if CRAZ[clarification needed] was the radio station's call letters or its moniker. In contrast, Degrassi: The Next Generation is unabashedly[citation needed] Canadian and specifically set in Toronto, Ontario. Canadian flags are present in classrooms and on soldiers' fatigue uniforms; national maps are displayed in classrooms; Ontario plates are plainly visible on cars; litigators wear court dress at trial; and the Toronto setting is periodically mentioned in dialogue.[citation needed]

With changing television standards, The Next Generation addresses some topics with considerably more depth and candor than the earlier series, including homosexuality, interracial relationships, drug use, and teen sexuality; and covers controversial topics untouchable by the earlier series,[citation needed] including rape, fellatio, cutting, Christian youth, comparative penis sizes, and murder. At the same time, some topics that were previously controversial are now taken as inconsequential and/or normal. For example, in Degrassi Junior High, Spike Nelson was compelled to leave school during her grade 7 pregnancy as presenting a bad example for her classmates, whereas Next Generation’s Liberty van Zandt not only continued her grade 10 studies in school during her pregnancy, but remained class president. Although characters on earlier series occassionally developed attraction to characters of other races, the only interracial steady couple Michelle Accette and BLT Thomas endured harassment and intolerant parents;[citation needed] conversely, pairings on The Next Generation are routinely mixed race and taken for granted.[citation needed] Similarly, homosexuality was treated as something to be kept hidden by devotes, jeered at by classmates, and vilified by parents in the earlier series;[citation needed] whereas, in the Next Generation, several characters are openly gay or bisexual.

Unlike the original series which routinely filmed on location in real houses (typically those of the producers and writers),[citation needed] on public streets, and in stores, restaurants and hospitals,[citation needed] Next Generation shooting rarely ventures off of the Epitome lot. Location filming is largely, though not entirely, limited to hour-long (or 2-part) episodes such as "Mother and Child Reunion", "When Doves Cry", "White Wedding", "Father Figure", "Holiday", "Tears Are Not Enough", "Bust a Move", et al.

Nominated to be featured on Main Page

Resolved
 – nomination removed. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

This article has been nominated to be featured on Wikipedia's main page on October 5, the date season 8 begins. The discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests#October 5. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 23:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Although it was supported by two people, it only had two points, and was quickly superseded by a nomination with three points. Oh well! Thanks to the two supporters, though. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Aww, that's a shame. Better luck next time! — Kendra Michele — 05:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/A.J._Saudin

A.J. Saudin is...best known for his role as Connor in Degrassi: The Next Generation.

FYI. Ikip (talk) 17:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

The School's Exterior

Degrassi Community School is not located on the studio's backlot, rather, the exterior of the school is really the building that houses Studio C. You can see more information on the layout of Epitome Pictures at www.epitomepictures.com and clicking on "Studios". (There isn't an exact web address because of the navigation of the website...) I am going to correct the problem, however, it would be helpful if someone else could "blend it in" better with the article (make the section sound better)... Donatrip (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Update: I have fixed the problem. BTW it was cited in a book that the school was on the backlot-my source, the Epitome Studio's website, seems like a much more reliable source. (See above.) Donatrip (talk) 18:35, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Degrassi season 1 beginning to air in 2010 on Nickelodeon Australia

Hello!

Perhaps someone my find it appropriate to include in the post broadcast section that Degrassi season 1 has started airing on nickelodeon in australia from January 27 2010. It does not appear that episodes are aired in order are incomplete and meshed with later seasons, this can be verified @ http://www.nickelodeon.com.au/fullynick/tvshows/shows/degrassi-next-generation-show and http://www.nickelodeon.com.au/fullynick/tvschedule/ * please note you will be required to select the degrassi from the drop down box for airing dates and times to see its broadcast schedule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.168.119.42 (talk) 11:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. 117Avenue (talk) 02:40, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Degrassi as "Too caucasian"?

These references are not true - and so I removed the paragraph.

The articles referenced mention that Degrassi was studied as part of a larger content analysis study - and that overall trends in Canadian television showed an underrepresentation of visible minorities. The study itself - here - has no specific references to Degrassi:TNG, other than that it was included in the broad range study.

In fact, the opposite is true. Degrassi has been lauded for its portrayal of muliticultural issues...

Levine, Elena. "National television, global market: Canada’s Degrassi: The Next Generation." Media, Culture & Society, 2009: 515-530.
Grant, Peter S, and Chris Wood. Blockbusters and trade wars: popular culture in a globalized world. Vancouver: Douglas & McIntyre, 2004.

Addionne (talk) 19:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Episode numbering

A discussion regarding the numbering of episodes has began at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television#Episode listing for Degrassi: TNG. 117Avenue (talk) 23:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Removal of Complementary Media section

During the course of making improvements to the article during the Featured article review, I have removed the "Complementary Media" section and all its subsections. After doing an intensive search on Google, and a few newspaper archive sites such as ProQuest, LexisNexis and Press Display, I haven't turned up anything that can be called a secondary source that indicates the notablility of any of the media. Yes, they exist, and we can source that, but it isn't enough to warrant their inclusion per Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

I've moved the section here to the talkpage, but it should not be added back into the article until secondary sources can be found. Matthewedwards :  Chat  23:13, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

==Complementary media==

The popular success of Degrassi: The Next Generation, especially in the United States, has spurred the producers to make media products complementary to the show. These include web series and a podcast, three miniseries, and three special episodes.

Online content

Prior to broadcast of the series, the producers created a website with a "virtual school" that fans could "enroll" to receive regular e-mails from their character "classmates" and discuss ongoing plots, to provide a complete viewing experience for the audience. In February 2001, it was revealed in the Waterloo Region Record that the producers of the show had threatened the owner of a Degrassi fansite with a lawsuit to hand over the ownership of three domains using the Degrassi name.[2]
The first podcast was released on 16 January 2007 and featured actors Mike Lobel and Daniel Clark. Each podcast features interviews with castmembers, producers, and writers, the Degrassi: The Next Generation podcasts are recorded behind-the-scenes at the studios.[3] Thirteen podcasts have been released as of January 22, 2009.[4]
In 2006 CTV and The N began streaming Degrassi: The Next Generation episodes on their websites, and on 2 February 2006, they premiered the first internet-only web series, Degrassi Minis, produced by Stefan Brogren. Some of the two to three minute long webisodes take place between episodes of the television show, whereas others are completely fantastical takes on the Degrassi universe.[5][6]
Degrassi on the Set premiered in 2006 and shows backstage action from seasons six and seven.[7] Degrassi Mangasodes, a third web series, is a collection of animated shorts. Only two episodes have been made, using stories adapted from scenes from the Degrassi: Extra Credit books written by J. Torres.[8] The episodes were produced by Yowza! Animation,[9] scripted by J. Torres,[10] and animated by James McCrimmon.[9] The episodes feature Degrassi: The Next Generation actors providing voices for their animated characters.[11]

Special episodes


On September 30, 2005, The N aired a special episode, "Degrassi Behind The Scenes", which celebrates 25 years of the Degrassi franchise.[12][13] It featured interviews with the cast, bloopers, and deleted scenes from the series.
"Degrassi in Kenya" ("Degrassi: Doing What Matters" in the U.S.) is the second special episode, and aired 18 October 2007 on MTV Canada and 14 March 2008 on The N.[14] It documents the Degrassi: The Next Generation cast visiting the Masai Mara, Kenya to build an extension onto Motony Primary School.[15][16]
"Degrassi of the Dead", which parodies the zombie film Dawn of the Dead, is a Halloween special which aired on October 26, 2007 on The N and four days later, October 30, on CTV.[17] The episode is not part of the regular episodes or Degrassi continuity, although it does feature a number of Degrassi: The Next Generation actors in character, some of whom turn into zombies after eating genetically modified food in the school cafeteria, while others try to escape. The second half of the episode is a behind-the-scenes look at the production hosted by Cassie Steele, Aubrey Graham and Lauren Collins. The episode is directed by Stefan Brogren, and originally made as five Degrassi Minis, with an additional streaming video of Aubrey Graham dancing to a Halloween themed rap performed by Brogren.[18][19]
"The Curse of Degrassi" is a second Halloween special, which CTV aired on 26 October 2008 and The N on 24 October 2008. On the anniversary of Rick Murray's death, he comes back to haunt his former classmates, with Holly J's help.[20]
The cast traveled to Ecuador to help build a school and help the community control their health and sanitation problems. Titled "Degrassi in Ecuador", it aired on December 19, 2008.

Licensed merchandise


On 1 November 2005, a soundtrack album for the show was released by Orange Record Label in Canada entitled Songs from Degrassi: The Next Generation.[21] The N released The N Soundtrack through Nick Records on 28 August 2006 in the United States.[22] The album includes an extended version of the theme song, featuring a rap written and performed by Turkish rapper Evren Özdemir.[23] It also includes other songs from Degrassi: The Next Generation, as well as other shows on The N, including Instant Star, South of Nowhere, Beyond the Break, and Whistler.

"Turning Japanese", the first graphic novel in the Degrassi: Extra Credit series, was released on 12 October 2006 in Canada by H.B. Fenn,[24] and 21 November 2006 in the U.S. by Pocket Books, a division of Simon & Schuster.[25] Three more graphic novels have been also released: "Suddenly, Last Summer", "Missing You" and "Safety Dance".[26][27][28] The stories in Degrassi: Extra Credit cover and expand upon plots and elements not seen on the show.[29] On 23 August 2005, H.B. Fenn published Degrassi: Generations - The Official 411, an encyclopædic guidebook that includes script guidelines for the show, biographies of actors from Degrassi High and Degrassi: The Next Generation, and information about the show's bands.[30]

Sources

I think that a lot of the information in the beginning of the article, particularly the part about how it will be aired similar to "a soap opera" should be cited. Does anyone know where this information is taken from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ISmellDonuts (talk • contribs) 17:22, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Normally the information in the lead paragraph isn't referenced, it is a summary of what can be found later in the article. The information you are referring to can be found in the sections called Episode format and First run broadcast. 117Avenue (talk) 23:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I want it as a list, not a paragraph!

This sentence is too long. It needs to be a list, like this:

Before

Eleven children were given star billing in the first season. Sarah Barrable-Tishauer portrayed the lonely high-achiever Liberty Van Zandt.[31] Daniel Clark played bad-boy Sean Cameron.[32] Lauren Collins was cast as Paige Michalchuk, the school's head cheerleader and queen bee. Ryan Cooley portrayed as class clown James Tiberius "J.T." Yorke,[33] with Jake Goldsbie cast as JT's best friend, Toby Isaacs, a computer geek.[33] Aubrey Graham portrayed basketball star Jimmy Brooks, who is from a wealthy family. Shane Kippel played school bully Gavin "Spinner" Mason. Miriam McDonald was cast as Emma Nelson, a passionate environmentalist, with Cassie Steele cast in the role of Emma's best friend, the sweet and innocent Manuela "Manny" Santos.[33] Melissa McIntyre portrayed Ashley Kerwin, the perfect girl who attracts the popular boys, and who the other girls are jealous of.[34] Christina Schmidt portrayed the overweight and insecure Terri McGreggor.[35][36]

After

Eleven children were given star billing in the first season:

When I tried to put this down, Matthewedwards gave me a strike against my account, and that's not true! Please remove the strike off my account and don't block me from editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lamp301 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

This page is not a list of actors or characters, which can be found at the list of characters page, this paragraph is a summary, and your proposal takes up more space. 117Avenue (talk) 04:16, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
I did not put a strike on your account. I asked you to stop doing this and warned you that you could be blocked if you continue. Please sign your talkpage posts, too. Oh, and regarding what you asked, 117Ave said it all. Matthewedwards :  Chat  23:02, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "How It All Happened". Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Retrieved 2007-10-21.
  2. ^ Rubinoff, Joel (2001-02-10). "Degrassi meddles with fan's domain; Show wants rights to Web addresses". The Record. Metroland Media Group.
  3. ^ "Degrassi: The Next Generation Podcast series". CTV Television Network. 16 March 2007 (last updated). Retrieved 2007-10-26. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  4. ^ "Degrassi: TNG Podcasts". CTV Television Network. 2007-11-22 (last updated). Retrieved 2007-12-01. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  5. ^ "The N Unveils "Degrassi Minis", the Network's First New, Original Online Series" (Press release). The N. 2006-01-30. Retrieved 2007-09-26.
  6. ^ "Minis". Degrassi.tv. CTV Television Network. Retrieved 2008-03-28.
  7. ^ "Degrassi: The Next Generation - About The Show". CTV Television Network. 2006-11-10. Retrieved 2007-09-27.
  8. ^ Torres, J. (2007-02-17). "Degtrassi: The Net Blogger Nation". J Torres Online. Retrieved 2007-09-27.
  9. ^ a b "Degrassi Gets Animated ..." (Note: Incorrect date of 2006 is shown in article) (Press release). CTV Television Network. 2007-02-06. Retrieved 2007-09-27.
  10. ^ "CTV Unveils Degrassi "Mangasodes"". Anime News Network. 2007-02-12. Retrieved 2007-09-27.
  11. ^ Torres, J. (2007-02-12). "Degrassi Toon Up". J Torres Online. Retrieved 2007-09-27.
  12. ^ "Degrassi: Behind the Scenes". MSN. Retrieved 2007-09-27.
  13. ^ "The N Celebrates Degrassi Anniversary" (Press release). Worldscreen.com. 2005-09-13. Retrieved 2007-09-27.
  14. ^ Stohn, Stephen (2007-10-14). "Shooting Season 3" (Note: Requires registration). Degrassi.tv. Epitome Virtual Reality. Retrieved 2007-10-26.
  15. ^ Warner, Tyrone (2007-08-31). "Degrassi helps build a school in Kenya". CTV Television Network. Retrieved 2007-09-26.
  16. ^ Stohn, Stephen (2007-09-27). "Shooting Season 3" (Note: Requires registration). Degrassi.tv. Epitome Virtual Reality. Retrieved 2007-09-27.
  17. ^ Stohn, Stephen (2007-10-24). "Shooting Season 3" (Note: Requires registration). Degrassi.tv. Epitome Virtual Reality. Retrieved 2007-10-26.
  18. ^ Stefan Brogren (writer, producer, director) (2007-10-26). "Degrassi of the Dead". Degrassi: The Next Generation. 0:17 minutes in. The N. Shane Kippel: "...probably the most intricate mini we've ever put together, I think we've blown the entire budget on this one. {{cite episode}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |transcripturl= (help)
  19. ^ Stohn, Stephen (2007-10-25). "Shooting Season 3" (Note: Requires registration). Degrassi.tv. Epitome Virtual Reality. Retrieved 2007-10-26.
  20. ^ "Halloween special". CTV. 2008-10-16. Retrieved 2009-01-07.
  21. ^ "Degrassi: The Next Generation 100th episode". CTV Television Network. 2006-03-16. Retrieved 2008-03-18.
  22. ^ "The N Soundtrack (Enhanced Soundtrack)". Amazon.com. Retrieved 2008-03-18.
  23. ^ "New Version of Degrassi Theme". degrassi.tv. 2002-11-23. Retrieved 2007-10-27.
  24. ^ "Degrassi The Next Generation Extra Credit Turning Japanese". H.B. Fenn. 2006. Retrieved 2007-10-26.
  25. ^ "Turning Japanese Degrassi Extra Credit #1". Simon & Schuster. 2006. Retrieved 2007-10-26.
  26. ^ "Degrassi The Next Generation Extra Credit Suddenly, Last Summer". H.B. Fenn. Retrieved 2007-10-26.• "Degrassi The Next Generation Extra Credit Missing You". H.B. Fenn. Retrieved 2007-10-26.
  27. ^ "Degrassi The Next Generation Extra Credit Safety Dance". H.B. Fenn. Retrieved 2007-10-26.
  28. ^ "Suddenly Last Summer Degrassi Extra Credit#2". Simon & Schuster. Retrieved 2007-10-26.• "Degrassi Extra Credit#3 Missing You". Simon & Schuster. Retrieved 2007-10-26.• "Degrassi Extra Credit#4 Safety Dance". Simon & Schuster. Retrieved 2007-10-26.
  29. ^ Weiland, Jonah "Degrassi: Extra Credit" Graphic Novels Officially Announced Comic Book Resources (January 10, 2006): "But there's so much more that never makes it to the screen. What happens during summer vacation? What about the off-camera, after-school lives of the Degrassi students? What are the characters' home lives really like? What about the weeks that go by in the Degrassi world between one episode and the next? Surely, some good stuff must be going on—and the fans want to know!"
  30. ^ Boudreau, Tanya (2006). "Young adult book *Degrassi Generations: The Official 411* by Kathryn Ellis". Curled Up With a Good Kid's Book. Retrieved 2007-10-26.
  31. ^ a b Cite error: The named reference body was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  32. ^ Baldwin, Carol (14 October 2001). "Local Actor's Role Links New and Old Degrassi". Beaver Entertainment.
  33. ^ a b c d e f Honey, Kim (7 June 2001). "CTV's high-school reunion". The Globe and Mail. Yesterday Morning Was Devoted To Degrassi, With Appearances By ... Miriam Mcdonald, Who Plays Spike's Daughter, Emma, As Well As Ryan Cooley, Jake Goldsbie and Cassie Steele, All Of Whom Were Just Signed Last Week.
  34. ^ Scapillato, Joan (14 October 2001). "Port Teen Wins Lead Role in Degrassi's Next Generation". Welland Tribune. Osprey Media.
  35. ^ "Degrassi Sequel Is Big Break For K-W's Chrissy Schmidt". Kitchener-Waterloo Record. Torstar. 14 October 2001.
  36. ^ Ellis 2005, pp. 52–59, 66–71, 74–77, 80–82
  37. ^ Baldwin, Carol (14 October 2001). "Local Actor's Role Links New and Old Degrassi". Beaver Entertainment.
  38. ^ Scapillato, Joan (14 October 2001). "Port Teen Wins Lead Role in Degrassi's Next Generation". Welland Tribune. Osprey Media.
  39. ^ "Degrassi Sequel Is Big Break For K-W's Chrissy Schmidt". Kitchener-Waterloo Record. Torstar. 14 October 2001.
  40. ^ Ellis 2005, pp. 52–59, 66–71, 74–77, 80–82

Intro needs rewrite

For someone who is completely unfamiliar with the franchise, the intro is confusing. I found this article in the Featured Article spot on WP's home page and after reading the entire intro and Concept section, was still confused about the premise of the show. The title of the series Degrassi: The Next Generation implies that it is somehow related to Star Trek: The Next Generation and the opening sentence:

Degrassi: The Next Generation is a Canadian teen drama television series set in the Degrassi universe, which was created by Linda Schuyler and Kit Hood in 1979. Degrassi: The Next Generation is the fourth fictional series in the Degrassi franchise, and follows The Kids of Degrassi Street, Degrassi Junior High, and Degrassi High.

can be quickly read as:

A science fiction teen drama series set in an alternative universe created by physics students Linda Schuyler and Kit Hood while attending Degrassi college in 1979.

It wasn't until I read much further that I learned that Schuyler and Hood are not characters in the series, but the writers who created the series and the name — The Next Generation — was simply borrowed by Schuyer at the suggestion of her husband, a Star Trek fan.

At the very least, the word "universe" should be replaced and the ambiguous reference of the phrase "which was created by" (the series or the universe) needs tweaking. A mention about "The Next Generation" having nothing to do with Star Trek would be helpful, too. 75.237.178.138 (talk) 17:35, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I think that the term up front "teen drama television series" tells you exactly what it is. The intro continues to go on to say the series follows a group of students at a school who face challenges. You say that you are unfamiliar with the Degrassi franchise, think about the people who are unfamiliar with the Star Trek franchise, they wouldn't think that this had anything to do with science fiction. 117Avenue (talk) 19:37, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
The two series are unrelated, although one of the executive producers came up with the name "Degrassi: The Next Generation" after being inspired by his favourite TV show Star Trek: The Next Generation, and both are reboots of a franchise. In this instance, "universe" refers to a fictional universe, rather than a universe in the outer-space sense. The fictional universe was created by Schuyler and Hood as they are the creators of first three TV shows set within this "universe". Unless you're planning on the Star Trek: The Next Generation article stating it has nothing to do with this show, there's no reason we should either. "The Next Generation" is not "borrowed" as you can't own or lend words. Matthewedwards :  Chat  22:57, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I rewrote the intro and tried to tightened it up. Perhaps someone familiar with the series could put more in there about the characters and storyline (in place of the laurels, maybe?). 75.236.73.3 (talk) 12:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You've completely removed huge chunks of the WP:LEAD section, and it now looks and reads horribly. The Lede is supposed to summarise all the main parts of the article -- you've gone and removed most of that. The Lede went through a rewrite during its recent Featured article review, and the final product was approved. This, in its current form, would fail. Matthewedwards :  Chat  16:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I tried to rewrite the intro which reads like it was written by a caffeine-addicted fanboy with ADD. Someone has staked their claim on this article and it cannot be changed. I used to watch this show when it first aired but I am more familiar with the old series. This article has too much detail in my opinion. We don't need to know who the executive producers are directly in the article. That can be added in an infobox. There is also too much detail about the opening theme. Changes from one season to the other? This level of detail is only recognized by raving fans. There have been multiple cast changes in the show and the writers of this article don't know how to reflect this. Old characters are mentioned as if they are still around. There is extreme detail about the soundtrack as well as the sets. This should be removed but again, I tried and someone immediately undid my revisions. I tried. I don't know why this article is a 'featured article'. Plot elements are scattered throughout the text like confetti. This article needs some major changes. I say that as someone who has spent a lot of time editing other people's writing (fiction and non-fiction). TurtleMelody (talk) 17:28, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Have you read your talk page? 117Avenue (talk) 19:03, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Move

With the change in the series name the article should probably be moved. The possibilities would be either to move it to Degrassi (TV series) or move it to Degrassi which would necessitate moving the current page there to Degrassi (disambiguation) (which now redirects to Degrassi). Thoughts? Harley Hudson (talk) 01:00, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

No. It was agreed upon here and here, when the news was released that the show's name would be changed, that it would remain. In accordance with MOS:TV and MOS:FICT, fiction is written in present tense, and thus we must look at the subject as a whole. Since the title used for the longest amount of time is Degrassi: The Next Generation, that is the title to be used by the article. It can be moved when the eighteenth season is confirmed, in March 2018. 117Avenue (talk) 01:14, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see any discussion at the TV project page. I understand that fiction is written in present tense but I'm unclear what that has to do with the name of the article. I'm also unclear why the name longest in use should remain in use for the article's name if the show is no longer called that. References to the series within other articles should use whichever name is correct for the time frame but going from the name change forward the current name should be used. An isolated discussion between two editors nine months ago doesn't IMHO constitute consensus. Harley Hudson (talk) 01:32, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, the discussion has been archived, try it now. The change was not retroactive, meaning that Degrassi: The Next Generation is still the title of the series for use in other articles. 117Avenue (talk) 02:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Why so much info about season 5 and 6 ratings?

They are referred as recent but we're currently in season 11 and the show's still on, so I imagine that ratings went up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.57.148 (talk) 21:43, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Florida Family Association

The outfit that persuaded Lowe's hardware chain to pull its ads from the TLC Network's "American Muslim" show has been targeting Degrassi advertisers, with less success, for months. See http://floridafamily.org/full_article.php?article_no=33; http://floridafamily.org/full_article.php?article_no=59; http://floridafamily.org/full_article.php?article_no=60; amd http://floridafamily.org/full_article.php?article_no=107

Probably not a very notable effort, but there's the links if it becomes so. Bustter (talk) 08:12, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Discussion thread about adding Vince and Charlie Lima to "List_of_Degrassi:_The_Next_Generation_characters"

I started a discussion thread about adding Vince and Charlie Lima to List_of_Degrassi:_The_Next_Generation_characters at Talk:List_of_Degrassi:_The_Next_Generation_characters#Should_Vince_.28played_by_Brendan_Jeffers.29_and_Charlie_be_included_in_the_list_of_Degrassi:_TNG_characters.3F.--Jax 0677 (talk) 02:01, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Date format

Even though I doubt many watch this page, I would like to discuss the date format being used on this article. In accordance with the first portion of the first point of WP:DATERET, this article uses primarily one date style, dmy. However, the remainder of the first point states that it can be changed based on a national tie. I believe that most of English speaking Canada uses mdy, and that Degrassi: The Next Generation has a strong following in the United States, which also uses mdy. For this reason I would like to change the date format used on this featured article to mdy, despite what WP:STRONGNAT says. 117Avenue (talk) 13:25, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

As the first point that WP:STRONGNAT finishes off with reads "Articles related to Canada may use either format consistently", I agree with the change to mdy. Punkminkis (talk) 20:30, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Genre

Does it seem like this series should have suspense as one of its genres? --Sage94 (talk) 21:58, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

No, that's just an aspect of drama. 117Avenue (talk) 03:15, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Aislinn Paul

Rather than delete Aislinn Paul completely, should it be merged into this article? I'm not finding sufficient references in third party sources to support a dedicated article.--RadioFan (talk) 13:41, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Here's one making her notable. Lesser Degrassi stars have been nominated for deletion and kept. 117Avenue (talk) 02:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Nomination for a minor award doesn't establish notability here, nor does other stuff.--RadioFan (talk) 03:00, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Question

Could it be added that the episodes airing in the US sometimes are re-edited or are not shown in the original order? See http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/24/arts/television/24aurt.html?_r=0 . --Sofffie7 (talk) 20:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

It already does. 117Avenue (talk) 04:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Intro

In the last paragraph of the intro there is this sentence "During the third season, thirteenth season which, although preimering episodes in the summer months, reverted to a weekly schedule. "

Needs clarification. 124.168.231.136 (talk) 11:59, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Next Class is a new installment

But Next Class is not the 'second incarnation/iteration' this is confusing - especially on the main Degrassi page - when Degrassi has had 3 incarnations before Degrassi TNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.90.95.165 (talk) 22:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Note how every single article on the web refers to Next Class as a new installment or iteration, instead of a new season. Wheras blogs or other unreliable sources refer to it as a new season of TNG. I don't know if this some error the American sources made, or just the nominal teenage ignorance, but SOMEONE (Rcarter555) needs to check their sources properly next time! I know I did!

MarcoPolo250 (talk) 21:29, 10 June 2015 (UTC)MarcoPolo250

You'd be surprised to learn that I DID check my sources. Some of those you list say it's a "new iteration" and some do not. However, all of them are just extrapolating from the press release, which was vague. Why don't we wait until we get official word from the creators of the show whether they would consider this Season 1 of Next Class, or Season 15 or 'Next Generation/Degrassi/Next Class" Rcarter555 (talk) 07:00, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Degrassi: Next Class can be rolled back to being an article instead of being a redirect if it is a separate series (a la Degrassi Junior High / Degrassi High) if they are separate -- 70.51.202.183 (talk) 05:51, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
NONE of them say that! They ALL say "new installment/iteration/show"! Now you're just trolling me! But, fine, I don't mind waiting to prove I'm right!

MarcoPolo250 (talk) 11:17, 11 June 2015 (UTC)MarcoPolo250

I'm not trolling you, it's just a difference of opinion about what the articles say. In the end, you may well be right, I just don't think we have enough information yet. And it would be a much more pleasant exchange if you weren't such a self righteous asshat about the whole thing. Rcarter555 (talk) 17:47, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Next Class is season 15 here Stephan answering https://twitter.com/stephenstohn/status/609475153911762944 and nothing about Next Class changes except for fact it's a tagline. the auditiions for the new characters are for season 15 (next class) are here http://degrassiblog.com/2015/05/12/audition-info-for-degrassi-season-15/ so in short next class is season 15.Degrassiinfo101 (talk) 05:03, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

We are going to be politically correct on the Wikipedia and go with the Degrassi: Next Class being a new incarnation (iteration) of this series. Also, @the person above, Stephen didn't even mention if the show was season 15 or season 1 in that tweet! But I do have a tweet of his that says its easier to consider DNC season 1![1] Like the original poster said, every article is considering it a new incarnation or iteration of DTNG instead of season 15. Yes, it could also be considered season 15 since they were originally going with that idea but that has since changed. The show is in a new era and the first incarnation of DTNG is over. Epitome is currently in production of season 1 of DNC and on the film roller, the production codes have reverted back to "1xx" instead of 15xx (like when they were filming season 14, the production codes had 14xx on them). I'm going to post a source but its a blog BUT with pictures of the last days of filming the 2-hour movie special of season 14. On the film rollers, it had the eps. listed as 14-whatever number they were on.[2] So that should be clear that they are considering it season 1 instead.[3][4] So instead of creating a whole new front page for the show, edits have been made to accommodate the Next Class era (seeing as the show is the second incarnation of DTNG, its not really needed). That way, those who don't want to be politically correct and consider the show season 15, can still get to those pages from DTNG. Also, is there someway an administrator can semi-protect the pages from those who don't want the show to be considered season 1 from editing everything without sources? Thanks!Ijoshiexo (talk) 18:04, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://twitter.com/stephenstohn/status/608999700600135680
  2. ^ http://degrassiblog.com/2015/07/28/degrassis-2-hour-movie-scheduled-for-august-2nd/
  3. ^ https://twitter.com/stefanbrogren/status/623514414793293824
  4. ^ https://instagram.com/p/5ZzZHuMHXB/

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