Talk:Dwight L. Armstrong

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This seems like a good article, but it badly needs to be referenced correctly. There are some inline cites, but much of the material is not cited. The Criticism section, in particular, needs refs that aren't blogs.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 05:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just moved Criticisms over here for cleanup. If we can't give reliable sources for "some have considered", "others believe", etc, we shouldn't have them in here.

Question:

Can you please tell me what your source is for the following statement: "It was about this time that he was baptized along with his brother Herbert by the pastor of the Hinson Memorial Baptist Church in Portland, Oregon." It is not clear in Herbert Armstrong's autobiography who baptized him, so if you have a source for that statement, I would appreciate your citing it. Thanks.72.79.67.83 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 03:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answer, "This was documented in one of the 'Herbert W. Armstrong Personal Papers' that was quoted in a Worldwide News article by Ralph Orr in the mid 1990s. I tried to find the article online but was unable to do so." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.1.226.221 (talk) 03:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Criticisms[edit]

There have been some who have considered the hymns of Dwight Armstrong in a negative manner. As Armstrong was not professionally trained, some of his writing lies outside of traditional harmonic part-writing, some of which the editors of the 1974 and 1993 editions of the Worldwide Church of God hymnals attempted to correct. Others have drawn attention to the subject matter of the hymns. For example, the texts of some of the hymns come across as self-loathing on the part of the worshipper. For examples of such observations, see the following link: http://www.theseekerblog.com/?page_id=104 (titled "WCG Hymn Reviews"), the content of which was written by someone who had grown up in the Worldwide Church of God.

Some have expressed the opinion that Armstrong's hymns are not "Christ centered". One should keep in mind that the majority of the hymns written by Armstrong are drawn from the Old Testament, some of which do indeed draw upon messianic passages from the psalms. Examples of hymns drawn from messianic psalms include Why Do the Nations Make Plans in Vain? (based on Psalm 2) and My God, My God (based on Psalm 22).

His hymn "Go Ye Therefore Into All the World" is drawn directly from the gospels of Matthew and Mark. Others believe that some of the texts were intentionally chosen in order to create fear in the worshippers.

I had added a link to my blog, which detailed most of the more popular hymns from the Purple Hymnal, but the link to the main blog was deleted, and a link to discussion on one particular hymn, "God is My Rock My Salvation" was included instead.

As I stated in the discussion thread that grew on that particular post, my aims were solely to present the fear and misery and self-loathing (as stated in the comments above) that singing the hymns over and over, week after week (and sometimes day after day, depending how religious the household), had on its members.

I was born and raised in the Worldwide Church of God from 1976 until 1996.

Oh and by the way, Ambassador College was not an accredited university until the mid-90s, it was a bible college specifically for the Worldwide Church of God. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Purplehymnal (talk • contribs) 02:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And the address to my blog, in External Links, keeps being removed.

"The following is a site created by a person who was born and raised in the Worldwide Church of God during the years the purple hymnal were in use: http://purplehymnal.wordpress.com/ "

Guess Deborah doesn't like my site. :-P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Purplehymnal (talk • contribs) 00:10, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]