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Untitled[edit]

Should something be added here about the way WWE (often controversially) used his name after his death? 68.192.137.151 03:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't "cheat 2 win" be a finishing move for eddie? He used it to win matches almost as much as the frog splash. GamerZX101 18:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't there any mention of Eddie's severe elbow injury in his first WWE match in 2000. He accidentally landed on his elbow while performing a frog splash. He was unable to wrestle for months after that, but was kept on tv as kind of a manager for Chris Benoit, Perry Saturn & Dean Malenko.--Hndsmepete 13:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So then be bold and add it. Anakinjmt 13:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I support the idea to add "Cheat 2 Win" to his finishers and to add the elbow injury. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kperfekt722 (talk • contribs) 02:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I support adding his previous elbow injury, but "Cheat 2 Win" isn't technically a wrestling move. Yes, he did cheat to win (much to the enjoyment of fans everywhere), but how would that be any different from adding "Ric Flair Holds Opponents' Legs Down" to Triple H's list of finishing/signature moves? Spartan198 (talk) 07:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC) Spartan198[reply]

On Vince Mcmahon's page it says as his finisher While McMahon usually relies on outside interference to win matches KingRaven (>$.$)> (talk) 21:55, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Slam/Triple Crown Champion[edit]

Can someone add that he was also the 11th WWE Triple Crown Champion, and only the 5th WWE Grand Slam Champion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.215.130 (talk) 10:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • why? that's insignificant trivia cruft - I mean is there a significance to list that he was the 11th and the 5th to do something? if he was the first or maybe second I can see it but 11th and 5th? Nah. 01:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

Somebody removed the date of death and put that he's retired. Talk about taking things too seriously...--206.27.244.59 22:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Birthplace[edit]

Where was Eddie Guerrero born? In the statistics, it says he was born in El Paso, Texas, but in the main article, it says he was born in Juarez, Mexico- SCB '92 08:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can some one please explain why Tulcingo de Valle in the Mexican state of Puebla is listed as the place Eddie Guerrero was born. It is well documented that he was born in Ciudad Juarez, which is in Chihuahua. The only confusion I'm aware of is the fact that he once stated in an interview that we was born in El Paso, Texas, USA. But on his official site 'Eddicts. com' and at his WWE Hall of Fame induction, it was said he was born in Ciudad Juarez. This should surely be good enough for us.

Eddie Guerrero was born in El Paso but wrestled in Juarez for a long period of time. His parents Herlinda and Gory Guerrero wanted him to be born in the states so that he wouldnt have to be an immigrant and live the life of one. Herlinda Llanes was his mother and wanted her children to be fluent in both English and Spanish.

Well, thinking he was born in Juarez is understandable then, but to cite Tulcingo de Valle, which is in southern Mexico, as his birthplace seems crazy. I was just interested where that came from.

Eddie was born in El Paso. His name can be found in this Texas Archive given below.
http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/tx/elpaso/vitals/births/1967/elpab67c.txt
VITAL RECORDS - EL PASO COUNTY, TX - BIRTH 1967
GUERRERO, EDUARDO GORY 09-Oct-1967 m
Mk32 (talk) 07:13, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Growing up I loved wrestling. Being Mexican myself, I idolized Eddie Guerrero. I have the Issue of WWE Magazine where it talks about him being inducted into the WWE Hall Of Fame after his death, and it says there he was born in Juarez Mexico. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solidkrush29 (talk • contribs) 07:26, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the clean for 4 years[edit]

Thing needs to be taken out since we found out Eddie was taken drugs up to his death supermiker

Eddie wasn't taking drugs, he died of heart complications due to taking drugs EARLIER in his life.--ProtoWolf 22:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
well according to the News that a lie supermiker
Supermiker, we get you don't like Eddie Guerrero, but everybody knows including people who don't like Eddie that he wasn't taking drugs up to his death. Mr. C.C. 07:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

he quit the drugs, and even if he didn't im sure the exhumer would have mentioned something. Hollywoodd 02:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

References[edit]

This articles needs more references. There is only one, yet the Chris Benoit article has 95. Mr. C.C. 07:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see 5 references, but it's still far too few references. I've started working on the page improving and tweaking it, eventually it should be a GA candidate but right now it's really far away from being it. MPJ-DK 12:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

also eddie was at the peek of physical fitness he was not diagnosed with the heart dieseas which is why he died as well he was the most humble person that you will ever meet i would know he was very close to me and my heart i love you eddie and goodbye you will allways live in my heart adios amigo. one day i will carry on your legacy and i've already started. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.177.30 (talk) 17:50, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

His last heel theme[edit]

The song was entitled 'Gangsta Lean' and not 'Gangster Lane' as it was written before. I'm gonna go ahead and change it AGAIN. User:Rawisrob —Preceding comment was added at 23:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever is changing the name back to 'Lane' really needs to stop. The song is called GANGSTA LEAN. 'Gangster Lane' makes no sense. 'Gangsta lean' is an urban phrase. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rawisrob (talk • contribs) 01:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, RawIsRob, you put Eddie's last theme as "Gangsta Lean." Well it may be an urban phrase, but if you listen closely to this, you'll notice the rapper is saying "Now's about the time I step into the Gangsta Lane." Besides, steppin into the gangsta LEAN doesn't sound right. THE $R$ Habla!Hancock 00:51, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its LANE you crazy lol. Hollywoodd 02:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kperfekt722 (talk • contribs)

It's Gangsta Lean. Go look up the lyrics on the official site. It's listed as Gangsta Lean. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rawisrob (talk • contribs) 01:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Eddie's last theme was actually called "I will not lose" by Jim Johnston —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.232.219 (talk) 16:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted to the original and actual name of the song. Gangsta Lean is a phraze for "A common driving position in which the driver holds the wheel with his left hand while leaning to his right toward the passenger seat, usually bobbing his head or bumpin' with the beat" - Which Eddie was famous for. Hence the reason the song was written for him, No where in the theme does the singer sing Gangsta Lane. Having it as Lane would not rhyme with the verse after it, "It's about time I stepped into the Gangsta Leaaaaaaaan, It's about that time homeboy, I keep the sky high (Mexican/Spanish vocal) Maccccchhhiiiinnnnneee" -> Lane And Machine don't rhyme + "It's about time I stepped into the Gangsta Lean" does make sense. Meaning it's about time he got behind the wheel. 91.107.156.120 (talk) 23:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Came to wcw with benoit and malenko[edit]

Benoit was in WCW in 1992. WHAT.

142.162.204.216 (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Guerrero, Benoit and Malenko all went to WCW from ECW in 1995. Kingzwest (talk) 19:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)(talk)[reply]

What about the others?[edit]

Well, I think that he was trained by people other than his brothers and needs to be fixed. I read in his book, that most importantly his dad displined him to be a wrestler. I think that should be fixed soon. And on another issue, he actually trained Chavo Guerrero Jr. as well. Please take this under advisement, thank you. Muchas Gracias, amigos!

Gossipgirl1 (talk) 18:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You know the beauty of Wikipedia right? if you want something changed then YOU can actually do it yourself, be bold and all that. MPJ-DK (talk) 06:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The actual date of the SmackDown taping[edit]

The SmackDown taping in which the three way with Eddie, Batista and Orton was scheduled was November 13, 2005. It was a Sunday taping of both Raw and SmackDown because they were going on an oversees tour the next day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ewitner (talk • contribs) 05:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The taping was scheduled for Guerrero to face off against Batista and randy orton and win the World Heavyweight championship....it would've aired on November 18....but the match was never taped.

Mil Mascaras[edit]

Does Eddie have something to do with Mil Mascaras? Volkov talk 21:15, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No...I don't think they've even met

They were partners, once. Allegedly. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Eduardo Gory......[edit]

Some time ago I saw his full name listed here as Eduardo Gory Guerrero Llanes. I don't have a problem with it either way, but is there a reason why this was removed? Seems odd for something like that to have been changed with no discussion whatever. 208.66.39.94 (talk) 12:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey for real! man Wikepedia is removing facts from the WWE Legend

Frog splash... or Jackknife Splash ??[edit]

When did the frog splash was named jackknife splash? I've watch every Eddie's WcW match and they never call it a jackknife splash.

Isn't it typo error on the ref site web, or maybe a confusion wih the jackknife finishing move of Kevin Nash!? Jeangabin (talk) 22:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source used for the name Jackknife splash is the archived version of his WCW bio, [1]. It's a relibale source, so I don't see a problem. Just because you don't remember them calling it such, doesn't mean they didn't. Their official website calls it Jackknife splash, so we also list the name here. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 12:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No problem with. But it can be a cut, copy, and paste error or human erreor on the site web. You can also find error on the WWE official website, so at a time where information on the web wasn't as controled as nowadays... The name is not written two time, only one. You should find a second reliable source with the move named Jackknife splash or a WcW match where you can clearly hear the commentors refered to it with that name. Jeangabin (talk) 14:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I've find !! The name "Jackknife Splash" comes from Art Barr, Guerrero began using the move in AAA while teaming with "Love Machine" Art Barr. After a comment from 2 Cold Scorpio, Barr changed the name of his finishing move to "Frog Splash". After his death, Eddie adopted the "Frog Splash" as his finishing maneuver as a tribute to his friend. Jeangabin (talk) 12:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

World Heavyweight Champion?[edit]

Unto a couple of weeks ago. In the section that talks about Guerrero's death it stated that Stephanie McMahon had hinted that Eddie was scheduled to face Batista and Randy Orton and win his second World title. Why was it removed? Was it not a fact?

It was impossible to verify. There's no solid source you can point to and say, here, this proves that Guerrero was scheduled to win the WHC.TheNeutroniumAlchemist (talk) 22:21, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Every interview I have ever heard done by writers who were with the WWE at this time ALL say that there were no plans what so ever for Guerrero to win the title prior to his death. The most recent example was Court Bauer say this on the recent edition of Bauer and Pollock podcast. (November 13, 2013 edition of the show). And I know Alex Greenfield and someone else have confirmed this on Wrestling Observer radio shows. I know it's this romantic thing that he was suppose to win the title, but it's been denied so often that I think it's pretty safe to say it was never on the books. Something that is speculated should not be in a wikipedia article anyways.

228lbs?[edit]

Didn't Eddie Guerrero weigh 228lbs? because I have so many of his DVD's and Pay-Per-Views and every time he entered the ring it said 228lbs....I know that on the offical website it says 220 but I'm telling you he weighed 228lbs go on yahoo type in Eddie Guerrero and every website will say 228lbs.

First Paragraph[edit]

in the first paragraph that states Guerrero's name, Wikepedia should really state that Eddie was one of WWE's top superstars and one of the most skillful and technical wrestlers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flakitox3 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

POV = Point of view--WillC 02:53, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well he was...on WWE's mainpage, it says .....Some new Drug policy was created after the death of one of WWE's most beloved superstars, Eddie Guerrero....Damn Wikepedia show the man some respect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flakitox3 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It says beloved as you say, not anything you just said in your first post. The article is a biography, not a fan article.--WillC 21:35, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
you heartless basted! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.0.11 (talk) 00:04, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Return?[edit]

It says that Eddie guerreor's tradegy was a storyline to feud with batista...I think somebody might've put false information, he's dead —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flakitox3 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, false info. I've reverted back. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 17:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Major Rewrite?[edit]

Just thought I'd try and get a consensus on whether or not this article is up to standard. It's well sourced and the information is fully correct as far as I can tell, but it doesn't seem as well presented or written as most Pro Wrestling articles are. Just a thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.245.250 (talk) 17:40, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong age[edit]

He was 38, no 37--186.6.82.166 (talk) 09:17, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Who broke the infobox?[edit]

In case you haven't noticed, the infobox is broken. I'm not going to bother trying to fix it because that's not really my bag, but someone probably should. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.249.130.53 (talk) 00:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Guerrero's children and WP:BLPNAME[edit]

I've removed the unsourced mention of Guerrero's kids' names a couple of times, but the change is just reverted with the explanation that we don't need to source everything. I've pointed to WP:BLPNAME in my initial edit summary, which seems explicit: However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced. I'm just posting this here to make sure there's not some good reason that we are not following WP:BLPNAME. Thanks! EricEnfermero (Talk) 05:06, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I didn't see the latest, but it looks like NNDB has been added as a source. Hopefully we can at least find a more reliable source. EricEnfermero (Talk) 05:09, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

First heart attack[edit]

How come there is no reference in this article of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VV9nMbSZgQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:797B:EA00:38A2:B02A:E912:9869 (talk) 18:37, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"He is regarded as one of the greatest of all time": he is, in fact, but some clarifications.[edit]

As the person who had written it originally, I'd like to let the cat out of the bag as to "why" the intro is there, because I can see a lot of editing happening in the near to far future. I want to say that the intro of the article is not "fluff", but a tentative legitimate approach to the question pertaining to the general perception of Eddie Guerrero. Wrestling may be a hobby, true; on the contrary, statistical analysis is my field of work. How do we determine if we can say that "wrestler X is considered by (fans) a good/great wrestler"? We need the appropriate sample size to say so. The sample size of wrestling fans (using cagematch.net as a source, not because I prefer it per se, but simply because it's the biggest pool with "votes" available online) is plenty enough to justify the conclusion that Guerrero is, in fact, most likely among the best ever according to your average Joe. Guerrero is seventh - technically sixth, as there is a non-wrestler above him, that non-wrestler being Paul Heyman - in a database of possibly thousands, or dozens of thousands of pro wrestlers of all time (according to the site itself, it's pretty much all-encompassing: "the biggest stars and the most unknown rookies, all of them are included in the database and can be commented on, rated and generally browsed for huge amounts of information -- as long as the individuals have received professional training"). You may say "the internet wrestling community" may not be representative of the whole wrestling community. Fair enough, from a purely theoretical approach, but I think it's a little extreme take on the data we have as of today: I doubt that most fans who are able to follow wrestling today have not access to the internet. And mind you that we need only some people to "interview" to make a claim statistically relevant. In short, we may say that the data obtained through the internet is representative of the wrestling community as a whole because for the purpose of statistical research as long as we have the right size of data. Or the right sample, if you like.

What is the right sample, then? Now, I don't know exactly how many wrestling fans are in the world. I know that other statistical researches suggest that around 1/5 Americans are, in fact, fans. This is irrelevant, though, even if we overestimate the size of pro wrestling fandom to include about 1 billion individuals, we may reach anywhere from 95 to 99% accuracy with a limited pool of around 666 individuals (http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm). In the cagematch.net database, Guerrero has received more than 700 ratings, which represent a sizeable, relevant pool for statistical data.

So, according to the wrestling fans as a sample, Guerrero should most likely be included in the top ten of all time. This should be enough to give legitimacy to the "Guerrero is widely regarded (by fans) as one of the greatest". But what according to the WWE? Sure enough it's easier, because we have plenty of official publications. We have some articles that cover Guerrero's time as a SmackDown superstar and another that labels him "one of the greatest technician". However, we do have another article specifically referring to the "top 50 WWE superstars of all time", a research reportedly based on WWE officials, WWE current wrestlers and past wrestlers. Eddie Guerrero is, again, in a remarkable eleventh position. So there you have it, according to WWE, Guerrero is right in the first dozen of its best wrestlers of all time (not enough to justify a broad claim involving other federations, truthfully); according to the wrestling community he is right there with the very very best of every federations and time.

Hoping I shed some light on the issues behind giving proper basis to statistical research covering the claim, I hope this can help other wikipedians when writing their articles too. Sorry if I mistyped anything! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.170.99.107 (talk) 01:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on the header[edit]

Don't wanna start an edit war, may ask what is the problem exactly with the header that was left there during the last months, if any? Because after adding proper sources and seeing the same kind of cut regardless, I think there's a little problem of consistency. First off I personally see no reason to obscure that kind of "perceived as best in this or that" information. Not only there are other wrestlers intros that follow the same format here, like Chris Benoit's, The Rock's and Steve Austin's, even contemporary performers like Seth Rollins have strikingly similar quotes in the header. I had opened a dispute some time ago (in Rollins' case) claiming it was a superfluous kind of embellishment and at least two other editors were adamant that, if anything, "there was no reason to cut it out". Yet, for some reason, the quotes on this article here are being erased with the entire paragraph even after tentatively solving the supposed "banned source" problem.

As for the sources, most of them could meet the criteria and give reliability to the claim:

1. Guerrero is eleventh - out of, supposedly, every wrestler one voter could name - in a ranking that was reportedly created on the preferences of an undisclosed number of WWE wrestlers, WWE legends and WWE officials called "Greatest Superstars of All Time". This is a source contextually supporting the existence of the claim that he's "one of the greatest wrestlers/ superstars" and and yet this is being ignored for some reason. Do note that the list is NOT limited to people who performed in the WWE: i.e. other universally-acclaimed legends Gorgeous George, Lou Thesz and Nick Bockwinkel, who are ranked below Guerrero in the list, never performed there.

2. If that is not enough, Guerrero ranks consistently high (in the top 5, 10 or 20) on websites like cagematch, which weight pro-wrestlers in a "best or worst" format according to hundreds of thousands of user inputs (which amounts to a statistically valid sample, for reasons stated in the paragraph above) that bump every wrestler in the database up or down. I suppose the data could be added.

3. Furthermore, we have a plethora of very specific statements coming from respected wrestlers who either think of Guerrero as "the best/greatest of all time", or "one of the best/greatest" or "the best/greatest ever". That being said, I think you'd be pressured to find someone who wouldn't conclude he is at least among the best. This should reasonably be enough to substantiate the claim that he's "seen as one of the greatest".

Maybe the "widely regarded as one of the greatest" bit could be rewritten more conservatively, but if the quotes do not belong to the header (they are being cut as well with the lists, with no particular reason added) then all the articles in the pro-wrestling project would need to respect the format as well.


151.57.39.13 (talk) 13:27, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, what's included in other articles has no relevance to this one.
"This should reasonably be enough to substantiate the claim that he's 'seen as one of the greatest'."
It's not. You may have read a whole bunch of articles in which established wrestlers call Guerrero an all-time great, but to deduce that he is "widely regarded as one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time" is original research and constitutes a WP:SYNTH violation. To add this statement, you require a reliable third party source explicitly stating that he's "widely regarded/generally considered/universally held" as one of the best ever. Sorry, but policy is policy. I did my best by adding the Fox Sports cite in which he was called a "wrestling great".
As for bundling endless lists and hyperbole into the lede, there's already a "legacy" section for that, which is itself verging on being a poorly-sourced hagiography. We don't need the lede being polluted as well. Warlock82 (talk) 13:57, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that we're trying to find a middle ground. However, if being seen by a statistically valid sample of fans in the all time high-spots and being put above Thesz, George and people like that in another research among professionals and insiders who perform or have performed under WWE itself isn't worthy of being metioned, there's practically nothing else could give credibility to the claim. This wouldn't even be a matter of establishing aforementioned Guerrero himself as one of the all-time greats but to pinpoint anyone's place. Claims for Londos, Hogan, Funk Jr. or Flair would follow the same guidelines of ranking high in experts' poll or on some DVD.

Since I can see the issue with the form, I can compromise and put again the data in the most objective way possible ("Guerrero is regarded by WWE as one of the greatest superstars of all time" plus the quotes: this is basically the exact same format for the Benoit's "widely respected by peers and fans + quotes" or Austin's article). If that doesn't work, I may or may not open a dispute. If anything, because the lack of consistency would appear funny to me at that point; like I said above, I had made the same point to other editors for another article and they found the placement for the quotes absolutely acceptable, and there's the articles mentioned above, so it's clear that there's some underlying issue here somewhere. 151.57.39.13 (talk) 14:39, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Best to open a dispute. Per WP:SYNTH, you cannot pile in a bunch of lists and draw your own conclusion from it; there's absolutely NOTHING to support the statement that Guerrero is "widely regarded as one of the industry's best in-ring performers by professionals and peers". Again, I added an actually-reliable Fox Sports cite to the lede which notes that Guerrero was regarded as a great wrestler, but you seem to want more towering praise for this obvious personal favourite and unfortunately, will violate policy to achieve it. Warlock82 (talk) 15:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I've tweaked things again, by adding an actually-reliable source for the Top 50 Superstars DVD, and noting in the lede that "WWE and a number of peers" have placed him among the greats. This is basically as far as we can go within the boundaries of policy. Warlock82 (talk) 15:56, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'd switch the second "best" with "greatest" or "one of the top superstars of all time", since this is what the WWE DVD says and should be an acceptable synonym for the "one of the greatest/ the greatest" formula used by some of his admirers. There is the bit about Fox News clarifying and covering the fact that he was good in the ring. Among the other testimonies, some talk about him being one of the best in the ring (Rhodes, Angle, Regal, Brisco, HHH), others (WWE, Punk, Banks) clearly want to express the feeling that according to them he'd be one of the all-time greats - as in important/influential/inspiring in general as well.

"Guerrero was regarded as one of the in-ring greats. WWE and a number of peers have ranked him among the industry's top superstars of all time".

Other than that, I think it's a good compromise and a proper summarization of the sources. So good job with that. 151.47.200.78 (talk) 16:57, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll go for "top performers of all time" since "superstars" is a WWE-centric term. Warlock82 (talk) 17:19, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Why has Eddie Guerrero's "Legacy" section been removed? KitchenSisters. (talk) 20:05, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The section was a mountain of unsourced fanboy worship. His video game appearances, and tributes to him, were already mentioned in the "Other media" and "Death" sections. Anything of any value has been integrated elsewhere, including the lede, the last paragraph of which speaks to his legacy. Warlock82 (talk) 20:33, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Llanes Mother's maiden Name[edit]

Eddie Guerrero did not use the Llanes name, Llnaes is his mother's maiden name before being married to Gory. Eddie's birth name is Eduardo "Gory" Guerrero it is listed on his Birth Certificate, Grave and with the Hillsborough County Sheriff's office when he was arrested in November of 2001.47.202.29.27 (talk) 21:40, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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World Title Win Before Death[edit]

There is absolutely no credible source that states Guerrero was supposed to win the title in that triple threat match — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.208.77 (talk) 00:43, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality[edit]

Hi @XXCochiseXx: - regarding my edit on his nationality, Guerrero was born, raised and died in the United States, and had a wrestling career in the U.S, Mexico and Japan per the sources provided. WP:ETHNICITY states that other/previous nationalities and ethnicity should not be mentioned unless it is relevant to the subject. I don't see anything about dual citizenship (unless you can provide sources) and it looks like the country he was born in, died in and spent much of his life was the United States, but his Mexican roots appear to be important, hence why I put "American [occupation] of Mexican descent. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 20:30, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, I've found archives of his page. It looks like "Mexican-American" referred to his ethnic background (being an American of Mexican heritage), hence why it was linked before to the "Mexican-American" page in archives.[2] (which WP:OVERLINK states shouldn't be linked), but this was changed to just "American",[3] and stayed this way as recently as September 2021[4]. So, I'm not sure why this was suddenly changed, as there was no discussion here from October 2017 until now. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 21:33, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Eddict" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

The redirect Eddict has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 26 § Eddict until a consensus is reached. Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 07:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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