Talk:Enterprises in the Soviet Union

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Rename to Enterprise (Soviet Union) ?[edit]

This would seem like a name more in line with Wikipedia guidelines/standards. NapoliRoma (talk) 16:05, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, it does not seem so to me. We don't rename article Culture of Lithuania into Culture (Lithuania), do we? Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 16:35, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a fair point, but what struck me in this case is that it seems like the word "enterprise" as described here has a meaning unique to the former Soviet Union, as the state-approved euphemism for "company", "business" or "corporation".

Note that there are no other articles entitled "Enterprises in the...", unlike the myriad of articles entitled "Culture of..." . The equivalent article that would serve as a comparison to other countries (as "Culture of..." is) would presumably not be called "Enterprises of the Soviet Union" but instead "Economy of the Soviet Union" -- which it turns out exists. So this article is about the construct specific to the Soviet Union known as "Enterprise", a term that has other meanings in other places, but is (apparently) not used the same way in any other country.

Thus, we state the article is about a construct called "enterprise" and disambiguate it to the specific context: Enterprise (Soviet Union).

...at least, that's my logic here. Regards, NapoliRoma (talk) 17:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are two issues: (A) the article sucks big time (not to say it is unreferenced) and (B) The translated Russian term ru:Предприятие is a generic term correctly transwikied as business enterprise (which sucks as well), with the exception that there was no "business" in the Soviet Union in a sense that their goal was not to make money (with the exception of private enterprises of very limited numbers), but to provide goods or services for the state or its citizens. What I want to say, there is no special meaning in the Russian term, i.e., it is not a "construct specific to the Soviet Union" i.e., no need for disambiguation. It does have some peculiarities, just as Education in the United States, has its peculiarities, but there is no "construct specific to U.S. called 'education'". Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 19:24, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]