Talk:Erebus

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June 5, 2009	Good article nominee	Listed
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Maternity Test?[edit]

This page says that Erebus was father to Aether alone, but the pages for Nyx and Aether state that in Hesiod's Theogony Erebus fathered Aether with Nyx. This needs clarification.

Removed paragraph[edit]

I removed this because it is clearly not English:

Material: Ai. ra/jani:- `Nacht'; gr. [e/reboj] `Dunkel der Unterwelt' ([e/]-Vorschlag); arm. erek und erekoy `Abend'; auch Adverb erek `gestern'; got. riqis, -izis n. `Dunkel', nisl. rœkkr, -rs `Dunkel, Dämmerung'; hierher vielleicht gr. [o)rfno/j] `dunkel' (*orgwsno-) und toch. A orkäm (*orgwmo-) `Finsternis'; anders oben S. 334. -- FP ^{<talk><edits>} 14:25, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

Translation:

Material: Ai. ra/jani: - “Night”; gr. [e/reboj] “darkness of the underworld” ([e] - suggestion); poor. erek and erekoy “evening”; also adverb erek “yesterday”; got. riqis, - izis n. “Darkness”, nisl. rœkkr, - R-S “darkness, dawn”; here perhaps gr. [o) rfno/j] “darkly” (*orgwsno) and toch. A orkäm (*orgwmo) “darkness”; differently above P. 334.

68.152.95.130 21:50, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

part of hades?[edit]

"According to some later legends, Erebus was part of Hades, " Anyone know where this is from? Any particular source? Or even how much later? Jonathan Tweet 16:54, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a place in the underworld called Erebus but this is not the god.184.101.38.32 (talk) 02:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think Erebus is sometimes referred to as the Infernal Region below the Earth, that part of Hades which the dead have to pass after they died, as opposed to Tartarus, the deep abyss where the Titans are imprisoned. I have no sources for that, though. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cognate - dubious[edit]

The list of cognates is interesting, but Tamil is not an Indo-European language (it is Dravidian), so unless the Tamil word is a borrowing from an IE source, or unless the author contends the PIE root was borrowed from Proto-Dravidian (unlikely, and not in the text in any case) it cannot be cognate - it should be removed from the list, to avoid confusion.Scyrene (talk) 11:59, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gender?[edit]

This might be too specific for anyone to care about, but the gender of the word Erebos in ancient Greek is neuter. This article repeatedly refers to Erebos as 'he.' As Erebos does reproduce with Nyx (a female divinity) in Hesiod's Theogony, it does make sense to assume that it is a male divinity.... however, it's worth noting that the only other divinity with a neuter name in the Theogony is Χάος. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.58.68.206 (talk) 03:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Starting review.Pyrotec (talk) 14:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

A rather light-weight article, but I suspect that there is not much more to say that has any authority.

Is it reasonably well written?
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B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
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I'm awarding GA status.Pyrotec (talk) 20:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source query[edit]

I'm not question this article's GA status, but it does concern me that the entire "Other useage" (the latter word appears to be spelled wrong) section is unsourced. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I've ever known, I had it as a use in culture section, and you didn't have to cite those. I think the Mount Erebus merntion should be cited, and probably the others, too. ceranthor 12:04, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've been around quite a while, and I have to say that I don't ever recall a time when it was acceptable to have an unreferenced "use in culture" section at GA. At the very, very least that Wordsworth quote should have been sourced before this article was passed.--Jackyd101 (talk) 14:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Titan[edit]

Isn't Erebus a titan? Titan's are childeren from Gaia and others. So I think Titan is a beter word than god, because gods are the children of titans Hermes13 (talk) 16:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)Hermes13[reply]

Personification of Chaos[edit]

This article refers to chaos as the "father" of erebos. this is misleading. chaos is not an anthropomorphic deity in the way that the primordial gods are. in fact, chaos was not a god. chaos was nothing, disorder, the abyss before the gods/cosmos (order). Thus, while gaia, tartaros, eros, erebos and nyx came out of or from chaos, chaos is not their parent or sire: chaos is "not," as it were. Following the link to Chaos, the article shies away from making such a bold statement about chaos and simply refers to personification in other cultures. So although this is a good article, I would recommend changing that reference regarding chaos to more accurately reflect the ambiguity of the Greek idea.

Erebus and Cerberus[edit]

I was wondering on this, but did Erebus have anything to do with Cerberus? Both of them are apart of the dark deities. Except Erebus is the god of darkness, though I suppose Cerberus is also the Warg of darkness as well. I think Erebus could've fathered him, before Hades owned Cerberus anyway. Erebus could have preceded Cerberus in some way. Tanor Zeta Faux (talk) 03:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment[edit]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Erebus/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

This article is lacking inline citations for the article. The lead is not a summary of the article per (WP:LEAD). Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 23:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with above; delist it. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:45, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't even a B-class article, let alone a GA. It lacks several requested citations, and only one ancient source (Hyginus) is named. The following statement in particular indicates a lack of careful examination of the scholarship: "His name is used interchangeably with Tartarus and Hades." Well, no. It's likely that the various ancient sources say things about the three that overlap, and that the sources say things about Erebus that differ or conflict. There's also no indication of whether Erebus appeared in Roman literature and mythology (as happens to be the case). Thanks to whoever noticed that this in no way meets GA criteria. Cynwolfe (talk) 14:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really familiar with the GAR process, but I'm willing to, if we can, stall the demotion and try to bring this up to a good article standard. ceranthor 20:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I fell you, but I think this is in such a poor state it would be more fair to delist it, rewrite (most of) it and then have it tried for GA again. Mottenen (talk) 19:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Mottenen. Cynwolfe (talk) 21:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delist.TCO (talk) 03:19, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, no objections then. I've not properly kept up with or updated this article as I should have been, so it can be delisted and I'll work from there. ceranthor 11:23, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, it's been a while and the article issues still remain. Delisting shortly. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 13:48, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology[edit]

Just a brief note as I have no time to work on this article: Erebus is Latin expression for this guy. In ancient Greek it's only Erebos, nothing else. As for its written form ἐρεμνός, in Roman characters eremnos, the letters μν (mn) are pronounced as b, ergo Erebos. Junatom (talk) 11:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keats[edit]

It should be notes that Keats menciona Erebus quiet conspicously in the fourth book of Endymion in the following verses:

Scowl on, ye fates! until the firmament Outblackens Erebus, and the full-cavern’d earth Crumbles into itself.

Source: http://www.john-keats.com/gedichte/endymion_iv.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.2.146.24 (talk) 04:31, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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