Talk:Ethel Smyth

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Untitled[edit]

Article hasn't reached the point yet where its inclusion wouldn't be a bit much, but interesting article on Smyth's student works by Kathleen Dale was published in 1949 in Music & Letters and has been scanned in by the JSTOR project at this URL [1] or at a library where such back issues are to be found *g*: Music & Letters, Vol. 30, No. 4. (Oct., 1949), pp. 329-336. Schissel | Sound the Note! 19:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article mixes suffragists and suffragettes( 'gists allowed men into their organisation)-so maybe this needs to be checked.Ning-ning (talk) 12:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vital dates[edit]

Sources are not unanimous. Her birth is either 22 or 23 April 1858, and her death is either 8 or 9 May 1944. Can anyone verify which versions are the correct ones? -- JackofOz (talk) 12:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This Oxford University Press website states death was 8th May^[1]

This website researching the history of the county of Surrey, UK contains a .pdf file which details her Birth on 22nd and Death on 8th ^[2] 79.78.81.140 (talk) 12:45, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On that point her 75th birthday festival could not have been in 1934, but 1933. Valetude (talk) 10:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

Under "Involvement with the suffrage movement", there appears to be a mistaken date in the line "She continued to correspond with Mrs. Pankhurst and heard of her getting lost finding the safe house provided for her hiding from re-arrest in Scotland, prior to the Glasgow event in March 2014.[16]" Did the author mean to write "1914"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.169.155.163 (talk) 19:07, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cremation[edit]

Why is the topic notable enough for the article, let alone for the Lead? Marlindale (talk) 00:26, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It was in a way already mentioned at the end of "Personal life" and I expanded just a little on that. But I plan to take it out of the Lead as not being notable enough. Marlindale (talk) 21:57, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Youngest brother's Army rank Brigadier?[edit]

The rank "Brigadier General" exists in the U. S. Army but not, to my knowledge, in the British Army where the corresponding rank is "Brigadier". Marlindale (talk) 22:01, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In the British Army, it was shortened-down to 'Brigadier' in 1925. Valetude (talk) 00:20, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception - modern evaluation missing[edit]

Under the "Critical reception" sub-section, there is only mention of what her contemporary critics said about her work, and that perspective is of course coloured by societal biases against women from the time. Gates' quote acknowledges the double-standards, but I feel this section is missing a summary of how modern-day critics assess her body of work (and whether that differs from evaluations from the past). Genedecanter (talk) 23:35, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ethel Smyth (1858–1944) was an English composer and a member of the women's suffrage movement. Her compositions include songs, works for piano, chamber music, orchestral works, choral works and operas. Smyth's extensive body of work includes the Concerto for Violin, Horn and Orchestra and the Mass in D. Her opera The Wreckers is considered by some critics to be the "most important English opera composed during the period between Purcell and Britten."

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Pronunciation[edit]

the IPA of her surname states the final consonant as an unvoiced sound, but I have only ever come across that name in England pronounced with a voiced "th". 82.44.17.226 (talk) 09:15, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it would never occur to me to pronounce it as if spelt 'smigh' Sbishop (talk) 10:40, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I added this to make the correct pronunciation clear, precisely because it is counter-intuitive and runs against normal usage in England (where I also live). But it does seem to be the correct pronunciation, for reasons clearly set out in the source given. Dionysodorus (talk) 18:02, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://blog.oup.com/2014/05/facts-dame-ethel-smyth/

[2] ttp://www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/themes/people/musicians/dame_ethel_smyth/

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