Talk:Euchites

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Earlier Sources[edit]

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– as of May 08, no such references exist

The article says, They were mentioned for the first time in one of Michael Psellus' works, in the 11th century. What does this mean, since we appear to mention earlier sources? Dan (talk) 06:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

but scholars[which?] reject these claims[edit]

I seem to have found which scholar rejects this claim. Phillip Schaff mentions this in his book book 'The Christian Church from the 1st to the 20th Century' on the provided link he discredits other allegations like infanticide and lewdness against the Euchites and so the editor who wrote this claim that 'scholars reject this claim' probably thinks that this was another allegations meant to discredit the Euchites. The book also justifies the line 'By the 12th century the sect had reached Bohemia and Germany[citation needed]' As it states that the Bogomolis and Catharists 'sprang' from the Euchites. But this is not enough to support these two claims/lines.

~NotAFriend — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.100.157.55 (talk) 22:23, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

First condemnation[edit]

The article states:"The Euchites or Messalians were a sect first mentioned in the 370s by Ephrem the Syrian,[1] and Epiphanius,[2] and Jerome.,[3][4] and first condemned as heretical in a synod of 383 AD". But first condemnation of Messalians was by Synod of Gangra 340. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synod_of_Gangra. User:31.223.131.85 , 21:08, 26 March 2017.

Actually, AFAIK the article you refer to states that "The synod condemned Manichaeans, and their practices." However, this page refers to the "Messalians", which I take to be a different sect (since the one you cite is a Gnostic sub-sect)? JabberJaw (talk) 09:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]