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Events - a typo[edit]

The sentence The deaths of 5.7 [30] to prehaps 7.0 million people should be The deaths of 5.7 [30] to perhaps 7.0 million people

Kazakh famine[edit]

You have forgotten to mention the Kazakh famine which killed ~1.5 million people in Kazakhstan.

50 million civilians killed in the U.S.S.R. between 1924-53, historian Norman Davies CMG FBA FRHistS[edit]

In “Europe A History,” historian Norman Davies counted 50 million civilians killed in the U.S.S.R. between 1924-53, excluding wartime casualties." Europe A History, 1996 ISBN; 0060974680 (ISBN13: 9780060974688) Celtic-Films-Official (talk) 19:22, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Celtic-Films-Official The book has been criticised as exaggerating the numbers by Stephen G. Wheatcroft, and they're much higher than most other estimates. wwklnd (talk) 20:50, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Crimes against humanity category removal[edit]

Crimes against humanity is a specific legal concept. In order to be included in the category, the event (s) must have been prosecuted as a crime against humanity, or at a bare minimum be described as such by most reliable sources. Most of the articles that were formerly in this category did not mention crimes against humanity at all, and the inclusion of the category was purely original research. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please remove this phrase:

1953, with a further 7 to 8 million being deported and exiled

and replace it with this:

1953, and a further 7 to 8 million were deported and exiled

"with" would fit better with additional punishment (deportation and exile after release from Gulag), but the sentence is talking about people who were punished without going through the Gulag system. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 22:39, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jamedeus (talk) 23:08, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please remove this sentence:

The scholarly consensus affirms that archival materials declassified in 1991 contain irrefutable data far superior to sources used prior to 1991 such as statements from emigres and other informants.

and replace it with this:

The scholarly consensus affirms that archival materials declassified in 1991 contain irrefutable data far superior to sources used prior to 1991, such as statements from emigres and other informants.

This is an extremely long sentence (but not easily broken into two), so the least we can do is break it a little with a comma. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 22:41, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jamedeus (talk) 23:10, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Poor source for number of executions[edit]

In the second paragraph of the article the figure '799,455' is given for the number of executions. The source for this information is a Guardian article which in turn provides no source for this number. ArmaanSolkar (talk) 21:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]