Talk:Fermata

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Isn't the duration also up to a conductor? Mauvila 04:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

before the 20th century, this was called a corona. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.103.225 (talk) 02:29, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but italians don't use the word fermata in this way. The word they use is "CORONA", and anybody with a little skills in italian language knows that. And corona it's still in use. Not only a century ago.

Vedi questo, schemi:

Corona (musica) Da Wikipedia, l'enciclopedia libera. Vai a: Navigazione, cerca. La corona, o più propriamente punto coronato, è un segno utilizzato in notazione musicale per aumentare il valore di una nota o di una pausa a piacimento dell'esecutore. La corona si può trovare sopra o sotto una figura musicale. Quando il segno è situato tra due note o due pause, è come se fosse apposta una corona su ciascuna di queste, quindi occorre prolungare il valore di entrambe. La durata della corona può essere specificata. breve. È comparsa per la prima volta sugli spartiti nel Quattrocento, ultizzata spesso dai francesi Guillaume Dufay e Josquin Desprez. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.135.125.211 (talk) 06:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good to know, but this is the English Wikipedia, and in English its current name is "fermata". Thnidu (talk) 16:27, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The French version has so much more information; shouldn't somebody use copy-editing to (correctly) translate the French version to the English version? 98.221.179.224 (talk) 17:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Occasionally holds are also printed above rests or barlines, indicating a pause of indefinite duration."

This does indeed apply to fermatas printed on barlines, but not to rests. When a fermata is attached to a rest, the rest should be prolonged as if it was a note of the same duration, not an arbitrary pause. For example, an eighth rest marked with a fermata is the same length as an eighth note marked with a fermata.

However, I can't think of a concise way to fit this into the article. Any suggestions? Accelerometer (talk) 05:30, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Other fermatas[edit]

My music notation software shows a triangle with a dot inside for 'short fermata', what appears to be a down bow sign with a dot inside for 'long fermata', and what appears to be two nested down bow signs with a dot inside for 'very long fermata'. Does anyone know anything about these? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.160.60 (talk) 18:02, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, other than the regular fermata, there exist the "fermata lunga" (long pause) and the "fermata brevis" (short pause). Both are used almost exclusively in modern notation (i.e. post 1900s works), their duration being up to the discretion of the performer/conductor (occasionally composers indicate exact duration by adding number of seconds within parentheses). It would be useful if you could extract the two symbols from your software and add the images to the article as examples.

It should also be stressed that the regular fermata denotes the ending of a phrase rather than extension of duration per se. It is very common in older scores (e.g. Bach arias da capo) to denote the ending of a piece's first part, occasionally accompanied by the word fine (end). Hope that helps somewhat. --Chrysalifourfour (talk) 13:38, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]