Talk:Frances D'Souza, Baroness D'Souza

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"Family" section & sourcing[edit]

The "Family" section was removed due to WP:BLP concerns; correctly, as it did not have any sourcing. I have identified two sources which support the information contained in that section, as follows:

An article by Christa D'Souza, daughter of Baroness D'Souza, published in The Daily Telegraph [1].
A section on Baroness D'Souza on the website of the Convenor of the Crossbench Peers [2].

I think these are sufficiently reliable to support the re-inclusion of the section, if there are no objections from other editors. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 01:58, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ryk72: Thank you for finding the sources, they will both be excellent references for the section, there is of course no objection on my part.--Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 07:12, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly, she married very young. The dates in the second source indicate that she was 15. Her daughter's account says she was 16. Can that discrepancy be reconciled? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:48, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cullen328, Many thanks for your response. I too noticed the discrepancy, and undertook some additional research.

I am not able to (freely, no cost) find a record of the marriage in Canada, but appears to be a record of the subsequent marriage in the UK - Frances D'Souza m. Stanislaus D'Souza at Hampstead in Oct, Nov or Dec 1959.[3][4]

I do not suggest that we reference these as directly in the article, but they might be sufficient for us to go with the 1959 year. In which case, the age provided by the daughter may simply be a miscalculation or misrecollection. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 23:18, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, all of you, Ryk72, Crystallizedcarbon and Cullen328. -- Al69dente (talk) 12:57, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Frances D'Souza - inaccuracies in section on House of Lords[edit]

Hi,

I work in the Lord Speaker’s Office in the House of Lords. I would like to flag an inaccuracy in the article on Baroness D'Souza. I don’t intend to make any edits to the article myself.

The third paragraph on her work in the House of Lords says that “She spent… £738 keeping a luxury Mercedes parked for up to 10 hours during an event at Windsor Castle.” The Guardian article which is referenced as the source of this sentence includes the following correction on this point: “The expense of £738 was released in error by the Lord Speaker’s office following the Press Association’s Freedom of Information request. The charge was not incurred by the Lord Speaker.”

It would be helpful if the reference to this journey was removed from the article in line with the correction in the source.

Rgwrbt (talk) 13:50, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done - I confirm that the claim is not is either of the sources referenced in that sentence; though I do not see the correction mentioned above. I have removed the claim as contentious & unsourced, per WP:BLPREMOVE. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 14:03, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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