Talk:Graham Ludlow

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I will address this on your user page, but we write articles from secondary sources about the subject, not from passing mention. Viriditas (talk) 03:47, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide a source that supports the bio info: "Ludlow was born in England but grew up in Vancouver, British Columbia. He graduated from Magee Secondary School." Viriditas (talk) 04:26, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hope this works as far as where I was born. I can't find any support for the Vancouver thing, but I have received all of these Canadian awards and have my Canadian citizenship as a result of living there, so how would you adjust appropriately for Wikipedia? Just say birthdate, year and place? Thank you for your help!!

http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/person/117344%7C0/Graham-Ludlow/

Grahamludlowca (talk) 06:13, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question: How did that material get added to tcm.com? Viriditas (talk) 07:29, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure. But I didn't provide any information to them. I didn't even know they had any information on me until I started doing all the Google searches for Wikipedia. A couple of entertainment sites even have the names of my father, mother and brother - and their dates of birth. Let me see if I can find the, too.

Also, I have a copy of an article from THE VANCOUVER SUN from November 29th, 2005 which talks about my graduation from Magee Secondary School in Vancouver, but I cannot find it in their archives or through any searches, which is very frustrating when I am sitting here looking at the actual page!

Look at this link (click on view more):

http://www.inbaseline.com/person.aspx?person_id=3193174

And this one with my family:

http://sg.movies.yahoo.com/Graham+Ludlow/biography/90685/

And this one:

http://www.fandango.com/grahamludlow/filmography/p144790

Grahamludlowca (talk) 19:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Could you talk very briefly about the 2005-11-29 article in The Vancouver Sun that mentions your schooling? That could be what we are looking for here. In what context does it mention your education? Is it an article about you or does it just mention your alma mater in passing? Viriditas (talk) 09:09, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The 1997 article says, "The 1979 Magee grad and former Eaton's catalogue model has finally discovered his niche on the other side of the camera, and it looks like 1997 may be his year." It goes on to talk about some of my deals in Hollywood, then further adds, "The boy from Vancouver is making a name for himself."

The 2005 article says, " Film producer Graham Ludlow, a B.C. boy who graduated from Magee secondary school, has wanted to return to the province with a production for years. Now he's back with one TV movie and, if things go the way he hopes, at least two more down the road." Later in the article, "Ludlow, who moved to Vancouver from England as a child, pursued an acting career, appearing in commercials here prior to moving to Los Angeles." It then goes on to talk about my stalled acting career and how I moved into producing.

Will this help? Grahamludlowca (talk) 02:53, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it helps a great deal, but you didn't answer my previous question. Are these articles about you, or do they just mention you in passing? If you like, you can type them up in full, with all the citation info. and e-mail it to me. It would be nice if you could add them in their entirety here, but that would be a copyright violation, so just e-mail me as much as you can. Viriditas (talk) 08:13, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The 1997 article (January 4, 1997) is specifically about me. It appeared in Kerry Gold's column SCENE & HEARD. Here it is in its entirety:

When Graham Ludlow left Vancouver for L.A. at 19, he'd imagined following a career path similar to that of colleague Michael J. Fox: a hit TV series, lucrative movie deals, a life of stardom. It was an addiction, he reflects over the phone from his L.A. office. "You think 'if I just get that right part one day I will be a star.' It's like the lottery. You think you'll pick the winning ticket. When you get out of it you realize how addictive it is and how you have so little chance of making it." The 1979 Magee grad and former Eaton's catalogue model has finally discovered his niche on the other side of the camera, and it looks like 1997 may be his year. Now a producer and scriptwriter, Ludlow formed Erratic Entertainment two years ago with partner Sam Okun, but only recently has business picked up steam. His latest production deals with studio giants DreamWorks (Spielberg) and Harpo Films (Oprah) have caught the attention of the Hollywood trade bible Daily Variety. The boy from Vancouver is making a name for himself. Erratic recently signed a deal to produce Rich Deceiver with Harpo Films and the Disney Company, and Oprah Winfrey is rumored to star in the story about a working-class woman who wins the lottery but keeps it a secret. Ludlow is working with DreamWorks on Amnesia of the Heart, which was written by a friend and is still at the script re-write stage. Erratic also recently completed its first film, shot in Montreal, The Call of the Wild, a Jack London adaptation starring Rutger Hauer with Richard Dreyfuss narrating.

The 2005 article was about a movie I was producing in Vancouver. It was a true story which readers and residents of B.C. were very familiar with. There was a fair bit about me, and the article begins talking about me. Excerpts below:

"Film producer Graham Ludlow, a B.C. boy who graduated from Magee secondary school, has wanted to return to the province with a production for years. Now he's back with one TV movie and, if things go the way he hopes, at least two more down the road. Ludlow and Canadian actress Kelly Rowan (who plays Kirsten Nichols Cohen on the popular U.S. series The O.C.) are executive producers on the CTV movie Eight Days to Live, currently shooting in Squamish and North Vancouver." Later in the article, "Ludlow, who moved to Vancouver from England as a child, pursued an acting career, appearing in commercials here prior to moving to Los Angeles. His acting career stalled ("I wasn't a very good actor," he admits), so he entered the University of California film program to learn the production end of things. He climbed the ranks, beginning as a script reader and production gofer, then moving to developing and producing projects. Some of these he helped bring to B.C. he was an associate producer on The Neverending Story 2 and for Knight Moves, and a production executive for The Neverending Story 3: Escape to Fantasia, all 1990's features made by German company CineVox. Since going out on his own, he has attempted to bring other projects here. A few years ago, he tried to convince CBS to shoot the TV movie Anya's Bell in B.C., but star Della Reese wanted to make it in her home city of Salt Lake City. On that project, he met actress Kelly Rowan - another Canadian who lives in Los Angeles - and the two began developing projects that they could bring to Canada."

I also wrote an article in SCRIPT Magazine entitled "So You Wrote a Great Screenplay. Now What?" The article appeared in Volume 10, No. 2 (March/April 2004) and began on Page 68.

Can you let me know what you think of this? And how am I going to ever get around the fact that this is about me? Am I ever going to be able to make something stick here, do you think? Grahamludlowca (talk) 20:16, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please expand this article with the most important information above, but make sure you fix the references. Currently, none of the references you've added have the proper title of the article. Please add them. Viriditas (talk) 03:03, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Most importantly, we want to emphasize your notability. For which project have you received the greatest acclaim? How many major film and television projects have you been involved in? Since your production company (Erratic Entertainment) got some publicity, it should also be mentioned. A filmography is also helpful. Viriditas (talk) 03:13, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have worked very hard on this page (with a Wikipedia editor) to make sure that it conforms to Wikipedia's guidelines - especially with respect to neutrality and sourcing of information. There is nothing on the page that cannot be verified, and you will see that in my list. I realize that there is a COI perception when creating a page like this but again, I have worked hard to avoid that, and remain always open to input and suggestions from other contributors/editors.

Grahamludlowca (talk) 18:32, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This page seems completely accurate. Not sure why it still has a warning on it. I've added to it and verified what's here. Seems neutral and unbiased. RandySWT1 (talk) 19:47, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the tag on this page. I see no violations. It seems neutral and unbiased. Editor - Viriditas - worked closely in overseeing the page's proper development. I corrected a couple of dead links in the references section, and added an additional film credit.RandySWT1 (talk) 22:26, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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