Talk:Hypereides

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* is said that a manuscript of most of the speeches was in existence in the 15th century in the library of Matthias Corvinus, king of Hungary, but was destroyed at the capture of the city(sic!) by the Turks 1526*.

When I first read this article, I noticed that something must be missing from the above sentence. It mentions a libary, but also claims that the manuscript was destroyed at the capture of "the city". I only didn't know why it doesn't say which city that was.

The first version of the article also included that the libary of Matthias Corvinus was located in the city of Buda /it actually mentions Ofen, its German name/, but the "original author" ommits this piece of information with his second edit.

My problem is that this sentence sounds a bit odd that way. I think it were better if (1) we said that the manuscript which included most of the speeches was destroyed at the capture of Buda (or Ofen) (2) or that the manuscript which included most of the speeches was destroyed when the Turks invaded Hungary. Adolar von Csobánka (Talk) 17:53, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

*I'm also not really sure that this date is correct. According to this article (in Hungarian), some manuscripts in the [libary were stolen/lost after the Battle of Mohács (1526), but most of them were stolen, lost or destroyed after the Turks captured Buda permanently (1541). Adolar von Csobánka (Talk) 18:13, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikification[edit]

I don't know much about this time period, so somebody should check to make sure I didn't remove anything imporant. Although there is more to be done, I've done about all that I care to do. At least for now. Here is the before:[1] and here is the "after": [2]. If it is any help, here is a link to the original article:[3]

Other notes: I think somebody is going to have to look up this article in the original Encyclopedia Britanica, because this (copied from the earliest available version) can't be right:

An important speech that is lost is the Deliacus (frags. 67-75, Blass) i the presidency of the Delian temple claimed by both Athens and cbs, which was adjudged by the Amphictyons to Athens.

"Seventy-seven speeches have been attributed to Hypereides, of which seventy-five were regarded as spurious[...]"

That number seems a little high for someone who is supposed to be one of Athen's great orators

--*Kat* 11:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Archimedes Palimpsest[edit]

The Archimedes Palimpsest, sold at auction at Christie’s for $2 million in 1998, is best known for containing some of the oldest copies of work by the great Greek mathematician who gives the manuscript its name. But there is more to the palimpsest than Archimedes’ work, including 10 pages of Hyperides, offering tantalizing and fresh insights into the critical battle of Salamis in 480 B.C., in which the Greeks defeated the Persians, and the battle of Chaeronea in 338 B.C., which spelled the beginning of the end of Greek democracy.

This is the link to the complete article in The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/27/arts/27greek.html?ex=1165294800&en=4845bce69a107664&ei=5070&emc=eta1

Speeches extant and lost[edit]

I think the discussion of speeches must include a simple list of just what is now available, in Greek and in English tranlation. I would provide it, but I'm having trouble sorting through what's here. J L G 4 1 0 4 10:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Place of capture[edit]

The article says, "Hypereides fled to Aegina only to be captured at the temple of Poseidon". There is no such temple in Aegina. The famous temple is at Sounion - reading "to" as "towards", perhaps he was captured there, before ever getting to Aegina? Narky Blert (talk) 14:19, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]