Talk:Ivan Maisky

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Do we really need the virtually meaningless word "iconic" - practically everything these days is "iconic", with the result that absolutely nothing is!Malcolm535 (talk) 22:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maysky vs Maisky[edit]

As the ambassador to Great Britain and prominent Soviet diplomat Maysky should be known by his most common English name.

Results of google tests:

Ivan Maysky Web 99 hits, Scholar 3 hits, Books 9 hits;
Ivan Maisky Web 3520 hits, Scholar 352 hits, Books 655 hits. The book reference includes Maisky's memoirs.

I think the results of google testing are definite enough to say that the established English name of the guy is Ivan Maisky.

Alex, just so you know for future occasions, WP:RUS#People explicitly prohibits using search engine tests to determine which name is conventional (see item #4). This, of course, does not include Google Books, but the results of the Google Books search would fall under #1 and #3 ("the person is an author of works published in English" or "the person is the subject of English-language publications"). So, to substantiate the "Maisky" spelling, a link to Maisky's memoirs would have been sufficient as it meets #1. Sorry for being such a pain in the rear about this, but it is my intent to eventually minimize the silly unending spelling debates by putting the practice on a firm foundation. Thanks and cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chronology problem[edit]

"Before the outbreak of World War II, Maisky dealt with a number of crises including intense British hostility towards the Soviets as a result of the Winter War with Finland."

The quoted sentence appears not to make sense — the beginning of WW2 (1 September 1939) was BEFORE the Winter War, which started on 30 November 1939. Moreover, the Winter War was itself a part of WW2, being a direct consequence of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, in the same way that the German-Soviet invasion of Poland was. I would propose the following corrected sentence:

"After the outbreak of World War II, Maisky dealt with a number of crises including intense British hostility towards the Soviets as a result of the Soviet military actions against Finland ("Winter War")." 88.203.176.7 (talk) 03:55, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The same is true with the reference to the 1969 Sino-Soviet war. I'm not certain what is has to do with Maisky, but it is rather peculiar that talks about Maisky's role in commissions to plan for a post-war world, and then jumps ahead in about 25 years to 1969 to talk about the Sino-Soviet war, which does not appear to have anything to do with Maisky, who was in retirement at that point. --A.S. Brown (talk) 08:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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