Talk:Jean Daniélou

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Question about the heirs of Jean Daniélou[edit]

The Nordrhein-Westfälischen Akademie der Wissenschaften (Academy of Sciences) aims to digitalize the „Reallexikon für Antike und Christentum” to which Mr. Daniélou contributed. Due to the fact that that Mr. Daniélou has already died, the Academy of Sciences is unable to license the intellectual property rights directly by him. In this case the German Copyright Law demands his legal successor to approve the usage of his intellectual property rights. In a first step the Academy of Sciences is collecting all accessible information of the legal successor and heirs. So please do not hesitate to contact me (reallexikon[at]joernheckmann.de) if you have any information about the heirs of Mr. Daniélou.

That would probably be the Jesuits.190.62.158.176 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:33, 18 May 2012 (UTC).[reply]

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The final paragraph, more particularly the final sentence, does not suit the character of the article----Clive Sweeting

As the translator/paraphraser, I'll begin by saying that I am an admirer of Daniélou's writing. None the less, it is the case that the details of his death provoked a considerable reaction, as the French article says.

Sa mort subite suscita beaucoup de commentaires : on trouva son corps chez une prostituée parisienne. L'Église catholique expliqua alors que le cardinal visitait fréquemment les malades et les prostituées. Le communiqué officiel ajouta que c'était « dans l'épectase de l'Apôtre qu'il [était] allé à la rencontre du Dieu Vivant », employant ainsi un terme théologique désignant l'effort de l'âme vers la sainteté. Le Canard enchaîné, peu convaincu par cette explication officielle, plaisanta sur le mot, lui donnant ainsi la signification de « mort durant l'orgasme » qu'il n'avait en rien au départ, seule acception aujourd'hui retenue par Le Petit Robert.

Gabriel Macé répondit le 26 juin 1974 : « Nous sommes des affreux jojos qui ne respectent pas la vie privée (…) et qui se répandent en sous-entendus égrillards (…). En somme, nous avons voulu nuire à la mémoire du cardinal — on va même jusqu'à dire que nous avons voulu mener campagne contre le célibat des prêtres ! »

I have no objection to the wording being changed, but the details are as stated. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest that the final sentence be deleted with 'public' instead of 'press' in the previous sentence----Clive Sweeting (ps The interesting word is 'epectase' as the Cardinal wrote a work with this title but I am not sure that a balanced presentation requires such detail).

I'll leave it to you to make whatever changes you think are sensible. Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever has added the new final sentence has verged too closely to the hagiographical.A compromise conclusion respecting both possibilities seems required----Clive Sweeting

"The secular French Press, as would be expected, generally remained uncharitably cynical of the cardinal's altruism" is hardly a neutral sentence. Added NPOV language. Ylleman (talk) 05:59, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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