Talk:John Coprario

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Should the article title be changed to "John Coprario"? This seems to be the most usual way of identifying him. For example:

  • Grove's dictionary uses "John Coprario" as the main article title.
  • R. Charteris: John Coprario: a Thematic Catalogue of his Music with a Biographical Introduction, (New York, 1977)
  • C. Cunningham: John Coprario's “Rules How to Compose” and his Four-Part Fantasias: Theory and Practice Confronted, Chelys, xxiii (1994), 37–46
  • Playford referred to him as ‘Mr John Coperario alias Cooper’.
  • John Aubrey called him ‘Jo. Coperario, whose reall name I have been told was Cowper’.
  • Roger North called him ‘Coperario, who by the way was plain Cooper but affected an Itallian termination’.
  • He himself spelt his name ‘John Coprario’.

His birth name was Cooper, but that doesn't seem to be the name he was known by. For example, we have an article entitled "Irving Berlin", not "Israel Baline". Any views? Bluewave (talk) 12:00, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


I agree - the story of the name change is hearsay at best, and the composer referred to himself as John Coprario. We should do him the courtesy of using that name. 213.205.194.156 (talk) 19:24, 5 July 2015 (UTC) Andrew Kerr[reply]

As far as I know the earliest evidence of his name being Cooper is Anthony Wood's mention of it in "Historia, et antiquitates Universitatis Oxoniensis" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Wood) from whom the rest copied it.

Wood was born after Coprario's death, and he is a most unreliable source who never let truth stand in the way of a good story. There is also a pot-and-kettle aspect: at one stage, having for a while styled himself "à Wood", he actually started using the name Anthony à Bosco. There is no evidence of a John Cooper contemporary with Coprario. Andrew K Robinson (talk) 19:16, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have amended references in the article to use the composer's usual name, but I don't know how to get the article's title changed.Coprario (talk) 12:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]