Talk:John Smith (Restoration Movement)

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Does anyone know why he was called Raccoon – at least according to my eyes he does not look like a raccoon at all? --193.167.207.18 (talk) 07:57, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One explanation added. SBaker43 (talk) 20:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 April 2015[edit]

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Moved to John Smith (Restoration Movement). There is a clear consensus to move the article, although the target is not so clearly agreed upon. However, it is correctly pointed out that "Restoration Movement" is the name of the article for the relevant movement, so that would be the most internally consistent choice. I believe that using "Raccoon" would require the use of quotation marks around that portion of the title, as it is not the subject's actual given name, a point which is not addressed in the discussion. bd2412 T 02:57, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

John Smith (clergyman) → John Smith (Stone-Campbell Movement) – WP:PRECISE -- there are multiple clergymen named John Smith so this disambiguator fails to disambiguate, being insufficiently precise to distinguish this title from other topics that can be so referred to as. After the move, this current title should be redirected to the disambiguation page -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:46, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Support I am the nominator -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:46, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support In any case the parenthesis gives a far higher quality of information. Greg Kaye 13:00, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support but the qualifier needs to be (Stone–Campbell movement), with an endash, not a hyphen, per WP:ENDASH, as these are two people, not a single hyphenated name. Colonies Chris (talk) 19:31, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Raccoon John Smith per WP:NATURAL and many sources, like this one. --George Ho (talk) 02:41, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Better yet, make the qualifier (Restoration Movement) to match corresponding article. --BDD (talk) 16:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Raccoon John Smith per WP:NATURAL and, apparently, WP:COMMONNAME. This biography, this encyclopedia, and this history book all call him Raccoon John Smith, and it returns more Google Books hits than other options. If parenthetical disambiguation is decided on, I prefer John Smith (Restoration Movement) per BDD (Stone-Campbell Movement is a redirect to Restoration Movement, and has a troublesome dash).--Cúchullain ^t/c 20:47, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

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Thoughts on my proposed qualifier, GregKaye or Colonies Chris? We might as well match the Restoration Movement article, and it would obviate the dash issue. --BDD (talk) 19:27, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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