Talk:Joseph Goebbels

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Mistresses[edit]

The article is currently written in a way that leaves an impression that unlike the pre-1928 period, in the 1930s he didn't have extramarital affairs except for the Lida Baarova. However, in fact he didn't just have quite a few mistresses, but at least one of them was underage, and later even started spying for the Axis in Hawaii along with her whole family. [1] I believe it is notable enough to warrant the inclusion, but colleagues Lectonar and Diannaa revert my edits. Ain92 (talk) 09:46, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just reverted because of the first source used, as I do not consider daydaynews to be a reliable source, but left it alone after a different and better source had been used. I don't think the affair and subsequent spying are terribly important or relevant, but won't get in a huff over inclusion or non-inclusion. Lectonar (talk) 10:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The point that he had several mistresses would be better covered by finding a source that says that rather than including a single random person. Manvell and Fraenkel mention "occasional affaires with actresses and society women" on pp 167-168 and says on page 169 that Magda asked her to "remain the mistress like the rest of Goebells' women". So I have added a bit to the article. I will have a look at Longerich when I get to work and see if the point is also covered in that book. I am not too keen to use content from Al Cimino's book, he writes sensationalistic stuff with titles like "Nazi Sex Spies" and "Evil Serial Killers". Doesn't look like a high-quality scholarly source to me. — Diannaa (talk) 15:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Dr josep goebbles" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Hitler's jail term[edit]

Evans 2003 says on page 194 that Hitler was arrested on November 11, 1923 (two days after the putsch). The trial started on 26 February 1924 (Evans 2003, page 195), but there's no indication that he was released on bail. He remained in jail throughout. He was released on 20 December 1924. "He still had almost four years of his sentence to run" (Evans 2003, page 199). — Diannaa (talk) 20:46, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

unnecessity of biological racism[edit]

> Despite his extreme antisemitism, Goebbels spoke of the "rubbish of race-materialism" and of the unnecessity of biological racism for the Nazi ideology. He also described Himmler's ideology as "in many regards, mad" and thought Alfred Rosenberg's theories were ridiculous.

- Um... so is that why there is no mention of "The Eternal Jew (film) and The movie Jud Süß?

פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 21:38, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the term “Acolyte”[edit]

Why is Goebbels described as an “acolyte”? “Accolade” would be a much better term since the Nazi party, at least officially, was not a religious organization and didn’t ordain acolytes to any position. Oogalee Boogalee (talk) 21:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed it to "follower". — Diannaa (talk) 00:48, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oogalee Boogalee In addition to the Cambridge[1][2], Oxford[3][4] Collins[5][6] and Merriam-Webster[7][8] definitions see also the Word Confusion[9] and Alabama Education Lab[10] articles. Mcljlm (talk) 06:59, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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