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Date	Process	Result
December 6, 2009	Articles for deletion	Kept
December 28, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed

Current status: Good article

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Alanis[edit]

What is the relevance of the 'Alanis' link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.30.21.82 (talk) 02:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alanis is one of Alanis Morissette's two albums that were released before her mainstream breakthrough album, Jagged Little Pill. —C.Fred (talk) 03:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reference for iTunes track list[edit]

Here is a screenshot of iTunes showing the pertinent info on the different track list: http://postimage.org/image/ffdqhhmkl/ David O. Johnson (talk) 23:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts[edit]

@Walter Görlitz:, stop reverting my edits. The article is being reviewed for GA-class and the editor that is reviewing it specifically asked for these edits. Prism △ 17:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Stop making bad edits and I won't have to fix them. I'm not reverting them. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:26, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you say so... by the way, if you insist on copyediting the article, why don't you do it yourself? Or ask at that WikiProject that does it. Prism △ 17:30, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have asked the WikiProject to do so and the original editor and I had some conflict when the original edits were made and the GA request was added. I would rather not step on that editor's toes. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Legacy"[edit]

@Walter Görlitz:, @WikiRedactor: please correct any errors or misspellings. My goal is to make this a featured article, therefore, I'm requesting a copyedit soon. Prism △ 18:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will gladly review this when I have time, but I don't think you should attempt to push the notoriety of this article at all. It didn't sell well and so the only notability for this album is the artist who created it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsed section containing tour dates[edit]

Appears to be fan trivia and a violation of WP:MOS.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 00:35, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: withdrawn by nominator due to unanimous opposition. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:11, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Katy Hudson (album) → Katy Hudson – "Katy Hudson" is currently a redirect to Katy Perry, who is not commonly known by her birth name, and only went by that name on this lesser-known album that sold fewer than 200 copies. WP:BIRTHNAME says that birth names should generally redirect to the subject's page. However, it says that this is done to "dissuade others from moving the article later to what they may believe is the proper name for the article. This also lets future editors know that the chosen shortened name was not an oversight, but was thoughtfully planned." In this instance, we have this album we can use as the "Katy Hudson" target.

A hatnote would, of course, be added to the top of the article pointing readers to Perry's article. (And perhaps another one along the lines of, "Not to be confused with Kate Hudson." Surprised that's not already on the main Perry article.) –Chase (talk / contribs) 06:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Katy Hudson is her birth name and she performed under the name. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:57, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose while much more widely known by the "Perry" stage name, she's definitely the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Snuggums (talk / edits) 07:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PRIMARYTOPIC says, "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to usage, if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." I think it's far more plausible that a reader searching for "Katy Hudson" would be looking for this specific album, especially since Perry has not used the name "Katy Hudson" since a failed career attempt many years ago. –Chase (talk / contribs) 08:04, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Walter. Katy has performed as well as released material under the Hudson surname therefore making it the primary topic, and the album as the secondary with the extension. —Indian:BIO ^{[ ChitChat ]} 08:21, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose good grief. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:31, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think good grief is strong. There are arguments both ways. Gregkaye ✍♪ 14:37, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Katy Hudson as a redirect to Katy Perry is much more helpful to the reader. Keep the album as Katy Hudson (album) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Werldwayd (talk • contribs) 00:24, 28 November 2014

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Sells[edit]

The website katyhudson.ca states that the sales number of 200 is wrong, instead the album sold 12,000 copies according to it. I have no idea which one is true, but it might be checked by somebody. NayruLink (talk) 13:47, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No; 200 (at least within the year 2001) is well-established and katyhudson.ca is a fansite which has previously been rejected as a subpar reference. Keep in mind that fans can often embellish claims when there's no editorial oversight. If anything, it would be better to cite whatever sources it used for the claim, but we would need to know what those were. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]