Talk:Klara Hitler/Archive 1

Archive 1

Missing info in link

I followed link #11. In the article text, it is stated that Adolf let the Jewish Dr. Bloch emigrate to USA in 1940. However, I can not find that info in the link which is cited for it. 213.21.66.189 (talk) 09:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Clarify, please

She was very devoted to her children and, according to William Patrick Hitler, was a typical stepmother to her stepchildren, Alois, Jr. and Angela.

'Typical stepmother' usually means unsympathetic. Is this what was meant? Valetude (talk) 22:19, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Klara's genealogical relationship to Alois

Klara's grandfather, Johann Nepomuk Hiedler, was her future husband's step-uncle: Either Johann or his brother were likely Alois' biological father.

She never got out of the habit of thinking of Alois as her uncle, even though they were now officially second cousins, and even after they were married she still called him "Uncle".

If Klara's grandfather, Johann, was the father of Alois, Alois was her uncle. If Klara's grandfather's brother was the father or Alois, they were cousins.

(Unsigned post by User:70.249.195.110 23:32, 14 May 2010)

According to author Greg Hallett in Hitler Was A British Agent (2005) Lional Nathan Rothschild was the father of Alois Hitler Sr having seduced and impregnated Maria Anna Schickelgruber. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.23.21.81 (talk) 18:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Correction from 68.89.149.2 17:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I've added these subheaders to clarify who wrote what (I've spent a lot of time reading the manual of style without finding any information about vertical spacing which would help a whole lot right here)

• If Klara's grandfather, Johann Nepomuk, was the father of Alois, Alois was her uncle.
• If Klara's grandfather's brother, Johann Georg, was the father of Alois, Alois and Klara were first cousins once removed.

In neither case could they be second cousins.

68.89.149.2 16:11, 3 January 27 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Words to avoid

I would guess most death is painful. However, checking Wikipedia:Words to avoid will show that even though Klara Hitler's experience with breast cancer may have been painful, it doesn't need to be in the article.

Klara's death was particularly painful and prolonged, was witnessed by her two children and given the notability of one of her offspring, encyclopedic. Gwen Gale 02:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be cited then? Brandonrush 14:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes it should be cited but the information is accurate and verifiable. Meanwhile your addition of the citation request was helpful IMHO. By the bye, I've read it myself in I don't know how many sources, I know it's in Toland. Gwen Gale 02:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Brandonrush 18:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Only going from my own memory of something I read years ago (which has been jogged further), her breast cancer was treated with direct applications of something called idoform (or a name like that) which was reportedly very painful in itself, which may be why the account in the article makes a notable mention of pain. Gwen Gale 03:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I would imagine it was painful back then, considering it still would be now. I didn't know the complete story, though. Brandonrush 19:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Children

Surely Klara and Alois also had other children than Adolf? At least Paula Hitler should be mentioned. JIP | Talk 20:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

The article already reads. Klara had six children. Only two of them, Adolf and Paula, survived childhood... There were at least two or three who died as babies, one was named Edmund I think, the names and dates should be easy to find. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

The infobox only names Adolf. JIP | Talk 05:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I've added them all. I see there are articles for the four children who died. These should most likely be deleted. Gwen Gale (talk) 05:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Name?

Hey, how come this is under the name of "Klara Hitler"? On Eva Brauns page it uses Braun not her married name of Hitler. I think we should use her birth name insted of Hitler. --Frankonno (talk) 20:55, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Mainly because Eva Braun is widely and more or less always known in the sources as such, moreover she was only married to him for a day and a half, at the end of her life, which she lived as Eva Braun (Eva Hitler by the way does RD to Eva Braun, where the first line of the article gives her name as Eva Anna Paula Hitler née Braun, which so far as I know is on target). Klara Hitler, likewise, is widely known in the sources (every source I've ever seen) under her married name as such, under which she lived for 18 years and had six children named Hitler.

I've undon your move, which must be discussed here first and be done only by a consensus of editors. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:11, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Information on ethnicity?

I read once that she was part-Czech, I think this should be explored as Austria-Hungary was a *very* mixed country/empire, it should not be assumed that she was simply "Austrian" because she was not Hungarian. Historian932 (talk) 18:58, 21 December 2011 (UTC)