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Edit request on 7 July 2012

Under "Visual Arts and Fashion," please add:

| Gustavo Ojeda | (1958–1989) | Cuban-American painter |[1]

  1. ^ Gustavo Ojeda: Nightscapes, a Memorial Exhibition, exhibit catalog, jointly published by the David Beitzel Gallery, New York, and the Michael Kohn Gallery, Los Angeles, 1990

Allermesuffit (talk) 03:10, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Done Thanks for the contribution. RudolfRed (talk) 03:47, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request Otis Toole -> Ottis Toole

Under Miscellaneous: Otis Toole should be spelled Ottis Toole as on his wikipedia article.

Done Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:46, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 March 2013

Hello, I would just like to ask someone if they could add Freddie Mercury to the music section of this article? thanks in advance. 67.193.87.250 (talk) 17:04, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Not done: Freddie Mercury is already in the Music section of the list.  — daranz [ t ] 04:42, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 August 2013

Gordon Stevenson should be added to the list of musicians, as per your article on him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Stevenson

Gordon Stevenson (?–1980) Artist, filmmaker and bassist with Teenage Jesus and the Jerks.

24.52.212.150 (talk) 23:07, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Note that the article on Stevenson is completely unsourced. Rivertorch (talk) 04:36, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 September 2013

Under "AIDS activists," please add: | Josh Robbins | (born 1983) | Talent Agent, Blogger | [1] [2] [3]

  1. ^ Tong, Warren. "This Positive Life: Newly Living With HIV, Josh Robbins IS "Still Josh" -- and Still an Advocate". The Body. Retrieved 29 September 2013.
  2. ^ Christodoulou, Mario. "Young People Are the Key to Ending HIV". MTV Staying Alive Campaign. Retrieved 29 September 2013.
  3. ^ Holland, Kimberly. "True Stories: Living with HIV". Healthline. Retrieved 29 September 2013.

76.22.143.38 (talk) 21:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

One of the criteria on this list is that every entry has a corresponding article. Therefore it can't be added to the list. Garion96 (talk) 05:22, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

support groups for people with AIDS and HIV

Getting over the anger..... TinaMarieK (talk) 07:25, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

TinaMarieK, what would you like to see here? Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2014

In Acting (film and television) section... Christian Haren(1935–1997) died in 1996 David Oliver(1962–1991) died in 1992 Tommy Sexton(1955–1993) was born in 1957

In Music section... David Cole(1963–1995) was born in 1962 Robbin Crosby(1960–2002) was born in 1959 Paul Giovanni(1933–1996) died in 1990 John Grant(b ?, living) was born in 1968 Steven Grossman (1952–1991) was born in 1951 Sylvester (1944–1988) was born in 1947 Miki Zone (died 1986) was born in 1955

source for Miki Zone (http://www.deadpunkstars.com/browse/146/miki_zone.html)

151.207.250.71 (talk) 17:05, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for checking these all out - Arjayay (talk) 17:31, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Simon Mol's entry - repeated simultaneous removal of reliably sourced content by two accounts

@Elaqueate and Dougweller


Information icon Please do not remove sourced content. As per your edit here and similar here, you removed the RS content of "with his case affecting the political climate in Poland, as Poland quickly introduced mandatory HIV tests for all future asylum seekers etc." taken from an academic book (and not a "newspaper article" as you falsely claim), which adds weigth to Mol's entry thus enhancing the articles' encyclopedic content. Removing sourced content without discussing it on the respective talk pages violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and defeats its encyclopedic purpose.

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Thank you. Zezen (talk) 18:54, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

This is a navigational list of articles with predominantly one-line directly personal summaries. There is no special requirement to "add weight" to the description beyond any other entry in the article. None of the other descriptions included a paragraph about the long-term effects of the Polish political scene. That's a version of WP:COATRACK and WP:UNDUE. This is a list of biographical articles, not a single person's biography, and certainly not a summary of a nation's politics. The source citing his death was dated before his death. Hard to call that reliable support for the material without proof of prophetic ability. WP:LISTPEOPLE is clear that you didn't have the sources to place him in that specific section. This is a Wikipedia:Featured list, which means it has to maintain standards for neutrality and accuracy to keep that designation.__ E L A Q U E A T E 19:32, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I share Elaqueate's perspective. Why not just put this extra information in the article for that person? Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Well there you go, Zezen. Consensus. But don't use templates when you don't understand them please. My reason had nothing to do with sourcing but adding material to the section on criminal tranmission of HIV about someone who had never been convicted of criminal transmission. That was not 'non-standard' and really shouldn't be controversial. We don't call acts or people criminal without a conviction. You also added material that simply was not relevant to this list article. Dougweller (talk) 21:11, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2015

"Andy Fraser (born 1952) British musician who played bass guitar in the influential 1970s group Free. Wrote the hit "All Right Now"."

DIED 2015

78.149.20.148 (talk) 23:46, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kharkiv07Talk 23:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2015

[1]

Phillipe Padieu

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/hiv-criminal-busted-women-lied/story?id=8579258 2602:304:B099:EB00:BD80:3E3F:D45C:3E14 (talk) 03:43, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://abcnews.go.com/2020/hiv-criminal-busted-women-lied/story?id=8579258
Not done: He needs to have his own Wikipedia article first. Cannolis (talk) 05:30, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2016

Marcelino Sánchez should be added to the HIV positive list he passed away in 1986 was in the major motion picture The Warriors 1979 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.204.254 (talk) 12:49, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Mark Ashton

Under Politics/Law should be Mark Ashton, a British political activist.

Source is Robinson, Lucy (2007). Gay men and the left in post-war Britain: how the personal got political. Manchester: Manchester University Press. ISBN 978-0-7190-7434-9. OL 21837097M., p.170. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.19.132.100 (talk) 06:45, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Lenny Baker

Actor Lenny Baker, known for "Next Stop, Greenwich Village" should be included.

Source is http://www.laweekly.com/supplement/death-in-the-afternoon-2137405 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.19.132.100 (talk) 06:51, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2016

In the list of AIDS activists, Peter Staley (born 1961) should be added , with the following description : Peter Staley (born January 9, 1961) is an American HIV/AIDS-LGBT rights activist, known for founding the Treatment Action Group (TAG) and the educational website AIDSmeds.com. He is a primary figure in the Oscar-nominated documentary How to Survive a Plague.

Reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Staley

Madbrain1976 (talk) 07:39, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia is not a reliable source. — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:39, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2016

Can Pedro Zamora be added to the list of AIDs activists? Right now it just says he is a celebrity, even though he was actively educating since his diagnosis, it talks about it on his wikipedia page.[1] and here's some other citations (I don't think wikipedia counts?)[2][3]

References

  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Zamora#Living_with_AIDS. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  2. ^ Franco, Laura. "PEDRO ZAMORA OF 'REAL WORLD: SAN FRANCISCO' REMEMBERED 20 YEARS LATER". mtv.com. Retrieved 09/08/2016. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
  3. ^ http://www.lgbthistorymonth.com/pedro-zamora?tab=biography. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

95.45.29.194 (talk) 12:12, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Question: Perhaps the word "activist" as well as some of the references could be added to his already existing entry in the Film, television, and radio section. Thought? Topher385 (talk) 12:10, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
We don't include people in the list multiple times just because they technically fit into more than one subsection — we list them once under the section that's most relevant to their notability. So we would have to either follow Topher's option, or move Zamora from the existing section to the activists — but even though Zamora certainly was an HIV/AIDS educator and activist, to the general public he was far better known for being a person on a reality show than for his activism per se, so I don't see how "activists" could take precedence over "film and television" as the section he actually gets listed under.
Technically, I'd prefer to see this list be reformatted so that everybody in it is arranged as one alphabetical list, rather than 15 or 20 separate subsections for different occupations which sometimes lead us into pointless debates like this about which subsection a multisectional person like Zamora should be listed under, but that's a debate for another time. Bearcat (talk) 15:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
Not done: for reasons stated by Bearcat above.  Rules of engagement Paine  21:57, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Gaëtan Dugas

| Gaëtan Dugas | (born 1953) | From: " French-Canadian flight attendant who became known as 'Patient Zero'" to "French-Canadian flight attendant who falsely became known as 'Patient Zero'" |[1] |- valign="top"

  1. ^ 'Patient zero' Gaëtan Dugas not source of HIV/Aids outbreak, study confirms | Science | The Guardian
  • I've changed the entry, although I used slightly different wording than what you requested. Bearcat (talk) 23:04, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

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¶ I notice that Isaac Asimov is perhaps the one and only celebrity to have the comment that his fatal AIDS infection was caused by a contaminated blood transfusion. I had thought the same could be said for some others, but no such comment on their lines. Is this fair? Sussmanbern (talk) 04:30, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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Pier Vittorio Tondelli

Please correct year of death to 1991. Has been written as 1981 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.19.132.100 (talk) 09:21, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks! RivertorchFIREWATER 17:03, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

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Edit request on 6 Jun 2017

Under "Visual Arts and Fashion," please add: 

| '''[[Antonio Lopez]]'''
| (1943–1987)
| Puerto-Rican fashion illustrator
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Done – Train2104 (t • c) 20:56, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Note for the record: with reliable source added, not Wikipedia article cited in request. RivertorchFIREWATER 02:22, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2018

Please include Mike Henson on your list of Pornographic actors who contracted HIV. He died subsequently of drug overdosed. Here is the reference: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0378235/bio 2001:D08:D2:E66B:345A:EC39:3FFF:567F (talk) 01:39, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. IMDb is not considered a reliable source for most purposes on Wikipedia since the content is largely user-generated and not verified. See WP:Citing IMDb. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 Nov 2018

Under "AIDS Activists," please add:

| Peter Staley | (born 1961) | American HIV/AIDS-LGBT rights activist

Peterstaley (talk) 17:39, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Spintendo  02:10, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

@Spintendo:@Peterstaley: A cursory check of the user page and the associated article in question appears to verify the existence and notability of the suggested entry. This can be  done Edaham (talk) 06:57, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Addition to list

Alexis Arquette should be included on this list considering she died of complications of HIV. http://www.etonline.com/news/198568_alexis_arquette_cause_of_death_revealed_actress_battled_hiv_for_29_years/ Just in case no one believes me.

Alexis Arquette was a film and television celebrity who was hiv positive from 1987- until her death in 2016. She needs to be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slimshadygirl (talk • contribs) 16:49, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 July 2013 - POLITICS

| Jean-Luc Romero | (born 1959) | First French male politician to reveal his HIV positivity |[1] |- valign="top"

  1. ^ Barrow, Greg. "Jean-Luc Romero".

109.2.230.205 (talk) 10:00, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Not done: We can't use other Wikipedia articles as our "sources", so his article on fr: is not, in and of itself, sufficient sourcing to permit his inclusion here. If you can track down a real media source, then he can be added at that time — but not with this source URL. Bearcat (talk) 17:40, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
The point being that Wikipedia is not a reliable source? Nicmart (talk) 19:47, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
As an encyclopedia that anybody can edit, Wikipedia's reliability is entirely dependent on the quality of the sources we use. Yes, people can edit Wikipedia to make false or badly sourced claims — but we can only fix it if we catch it. Which is precisely why we require external sources to support our content, and cannot simply make circular citations to ourselves: because people can insert false information into Wikipedia, we depend on the sources to ensure that our information is accurate, and not simply on what another Wikipedia article claims. Bearcat (talk) 23:56, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2019

Jerry Herman died recently so "born 1931" should be changed to 1931-2019 98.206.87.5 (talk) 23:10, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

 Done Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2021

Actor - Ian Calvin (UK) 1943-1987 - Doctor in The House, The Rivals Of Sherlock Homes, Henry V111 and his 6 wives, Elizabeth R - Was performing in Les Miserables stage performance at the Palace Theatre until a few days before his death. https://twitter.com/rebeccacaine/status/652275881231142912 https://beyond.life/obituaries/ian-calvin-wilson-15-03-1987 https://www.facebook.com/groups/1670530159821862/announcements/ 2A00:13D0:6B49:0:459E:CAF9:F357:7AF4 (talk) 14:27, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: There need to be independent secondary reliable sources discussing their AIDs status for us to include it, and they also have to be notable. The three links below are not reliable. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:38, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2022

Tony Fields, American dancer, actor, and choreographer, also died of HIV. 45.46.61.245 (talk) 01:38, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Please provide a source. It's not our job to find a source for you; if you want him to be listed here it's your job to provide the source which supports it. Bearcat (talk) 12:38, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 Done I reused a source from the Tony Fields article which mentioned that he died from HIV-related complications.– DirkJandeGeer щи 07:49, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Michael Shernoff

@XLR8TION: In 2021 do you recall of why you removed Michael Shernoff in this edit?

I was just browsing history and I thought this might be an error where you were intending to add when you meant to replace. Or is it something else? Thanks. Bluerasberry (talk) 19:10, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

I can't tell either. Looks like it could've been accidentally pasted over with Lou Sullivan. Since it was sourced, and Michael Shernoff's main article is also sourced, I've added him back in. Thank you. Geeky Randy (talk) 13:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2023

Casey Stevens, Actor, (1954-1994), Best known for his performance in Prom Night (1980) as "Nick McBride" Disappeared from the public spotlight for many years and passed away from an "AIDS related illness" in 1994.

Tommy "The Duke" Morrison, Boxer, (Jan 1, 1969- Sept 1, 2013) Also is known for his performance as "Tommy Gunn" in "Rocky V" in 1990. Tommy tested positive for HIV in 1996 and he was banned from boxing and forced into retirement. He made a brief comeback from 2007-2009 in boxing. Tommy passed away from septic shock and multi system organ failure on Sept 1, 2013 after being bedbound for one year per his Mother.


Wikipedia 2601:41:C380:4E60:C1B8:D043:1377:7BB7 (talk) 02:15, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 03:00, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2023

Change Randy Ray's lifespan from "(Born 1979)" to "(1979-2023)" SureButWhy (talk) 01:43, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done RudolfRed (talk) 02:14, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Asa Branca

Asa Branca(1962-2020), brazilian rodeo announcer and singer. His name: Waldemar Ruy dos Santos. Rafanascxpt (talk) 17:17, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Alan Palo (actor)

Under Acting (film and television) Please add Alan Palo (1962-1995) American actor who starred in Prehysteria! 2 and Tales from the Crypt. This link goes directly to his obituary in the Philadelphia Inquirer which confirms his status. https://inquirer.newsbank.com/doc/news/0EB32B7C93C9A7C4?search_terms=Alan%2BPalo&date_from=1995&date_to=1995&text=Alan%20Palo&pub%255B0%255D=PHIB&pdate=1995-01-03 LadyEvelynHyde (talk) 23:36, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Alan Palo, see WP:write the article first Cannolis (talk) 23:57, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
I'm sorry I'm confused. He does not have a page on Wikipedia. I was just wanting to add him to the list of HIV-Positive Actors as follows:
Alan Palo (1962-1995) American actor who starred in Prehysteria! 2 and Tales from the Crypt. https://inquirer.newsbank.com/doc/news/0EB32B7C93C9A7C4?search_terms=Alan%2BPalo&date_from=1995&date_to=1995&text=Alan%20Palo&pub%255B0%255D=PHIB&pdate=1995-01-03
Or, Are you wanting me to try to create a new page for him? LadyEvelynHyde (talk) 00:10, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
P.S. I just tried creating a page for him but they said there isn't enough significant coverage to create one. LadyEvelynHyde (talk) 02:23, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
As a dynamic list, one requirement for inclusion is that entries must satisfy the notability criteria for having their own article - if there isn't enough significant coverage for an article about the person, this requirement is not met and so they cannot be included in the list. Tollens (talk) 05:19, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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