Talk:List of Protestant martyrs of the English Reformation

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One of the columns doesn't sort correctly, is hopelessly broken[edit]

The Date of Execution column in the table is worthless for anyone looking to sort the martyrs by date of execution. When an entry is formatted as:

  • burnt on or about 15 March 1531

instead of

  • 1531/03/15 (burnt)

the table function sorts by the first numeral of the day of the month. So the martyrs executed on the 15th of any month of any year come before those martyred on the 16th, the 4th, the 23rd, etc., with no reference whatsoever to which year or month mattering.

This is asinine. Completely, unforgiveably asinine. There are many reasons why someone doing research or writing a short story might wish to know (for example) which martyrs were executed first, or, say, compare the rate of martyrdom with the dates of Henry VIII's religious changes or even marriages - and yet the data in this table have been entered as to make that impossible. (One would almost wonder if it was deliberate, but I suppose I shouldn't ascribe to malice what is better explained by thoughtlessness.)

I am not knowledgable enough about how tables are formatted to make the edits - and given how badly they've been done, someone must foolishly and wrongly think the status quo is a good idea - but I do think they need to be made. Year-month-day in numbers, please. Please. Please. 24.76.103.169 (talk) 22:17, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever is going to fix it needs to acquire some skill in table sorting; help is available at Help:Table#Sortable table and Help:Sorting. Anyone can edit Wikipedia, so it seems churlish to expect others to fix it. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:48, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The default position of the article already sorts the martyrs chronologically/in date order.Alekksandr (talk) 21:01, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Protestant, Radical Christians, Radical Protestants[edit]

Why use these different terms? A clear definition of Protestant here would help (not simply a referral to a long article). E.g. When disputing Mary's toll of Protestants vs Catholics killed by other Tudors, it is useful to remember that Henry VIII killed 'Protestants' for not being Anglican. Presbyterians were killed by Anglicans. Are Anabaptists separate from Protestants? A simple constant use would be helpful. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 15:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Protestants were not all the same. There were establishment Protestants who tended to occupy a Lutheran/Presbyterian spectrum and enjoyed official sanction under Henry VIII, Edward VI and Elizabeth I. Then there were the Radical Protestants (also known as Anabaptists) who never enjoyed official protection and were far beyond the Lutheran/Presbyterian spectrum. It's not very helpful to speak of "Anglicans" or an "Anglicanism" during the reigns of Henry VIII and Edward VI since what the Church of England's doctrine and practice was at any given moment was always in flux. This was never settled until Elizabeth's time. Ltwin (talk) 17:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source Link(s) Need Updating Comment[edit]

Foxe's Acts and Monuments is the primary source for this page. Most of the citations link to the edition on exclassics, which still works. However, there are a number of sources (notably anything that says "critical apparatus" regarding Foxe) that links to a subpage of johnfoxe.org. Several years ago johnfoxe.org got moved to https://www.dhi.ac.uk/foxe/. The things that link to johnfoxe.org need to be updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serogers02 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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