Talk:List of South African slang words/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Some errors and other amendments

ag man: man is not pronounced as in English. Rather it's pronounced like "mun" [a note on this, say the phrase to yourself and pronounce man as in English... Yup. We all do it... but as I said up there ^ the list is written badly]Jkjambsj (talk) 19:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

bosbefok: one word

bliksem: can also mean lightning

chommie: in Afrikaans it would be written as tjommie

choon: Yes it comes from English tune (and that's how I imagine it when I say it) but if you really want to write in Afrikaans, it would be tjoen

domkop[space]-[space]idiot

droëwors: one word and diacritic symbol on the e (if it were two words it would literally mean dry sausage of any kind)

ghoef: notice the "h" so that it is pronounced as the Afrikaans "gholf" (golf, the game) and not "golf" (wave)

hotnot: from Hottentot

jirre: mark this as a profanity

nè: not nê

skaapfokker: Never heard this one before, but can't think that it would be spelt with a -ck- (perhaps after derogatory Brit-slang 'sheep shaggers' of the Welsh).

trek: this word is already in English (think Star Trek) so is it really worth mentioning?

tril: one L in Afrikaans

valie: one A in Afrikaans

veldskoen: don't you mean velskoen? vel = hide (nope veld as in "field" shoes. for walking around the farm fields)

voertsek: unnecessary line break

vrek : could also come from the German verrecken which means to die(a rather crude word though) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.187.87.181 (talk) 15:42, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

gesuip?

You're sure that gesuip is derived from "animal drinking water", it sure looks like Dutch "zuipen", which according to vandale.nl primarily seems to mean "swig", (I know OK basic German, but my Dutch is slightly rudimentary, although it's much easier to read) 惑乱 分からん 00:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Comments: The derivation is from suip (animal drinking water). Afrikaans has a lot of words that basically mean the same thing for animals and humans.

e.g. stomach = maag (human), pens (animal) foot = voet (human), poot (animal) mouth = mond (human), bek (animal) drink = drink (human), suip (animal)

As with many other derogatory terms, the animal equivalent is taken, hence "gesuip" --Igitur za 19:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

The Dutch word "zuipen" is nowadays mostly used to indicate "to drink (a lot) of alcohol", and I believe it has been used like that for a long time. Note that "zuipen" in Dutch is "saufen" in German. User:Sargon of Z 06:32, 19 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:A61:504D:E501:A4D6:6592:8872:CEB1 (talk)

abba

Last time I looked, a kangaroo's pouch is on the front. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2788:1008:2C3:E2CB:4EFF:FE88:1A2C (talk) 00:10, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

"Ish (slang)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Ish (slang). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 22#Ish (slang) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 01:27, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Social science

I want to know how Africans originate from please 45.117.247.228 (talk) 08:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Nê?

Could also be derived from Portuguese influence who use a similar word, ne, at the end of their sentences to affirm correctness, much like "right?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isynera (talk • contribs) 18:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

The Etimologiewoordeboek van afrikaans (van Wyk, 2003) says nè comes probably from Dutch : nie(t) waar, cites Boniface in 1832 recording "Hy zeg mus daar woord zoopies verkog, neh".

This word comes from Zulu, not Afrikaans. To formulate a question in Zulu, you either raise the tone of your voice at the end or add 'na', to make sure the listener knows it's a question --> 'You liked the movie, nê?'

Hmm nope I don't think so, this is definitely Afrikaans, I've even heard the equivalent in Dutch and there is a similar word in German dialects. Kuratowski's Ghost 11:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay, well I guess it could be from both then. And laaitie? It's just from 'light', not Afrikaans. The dictionary spells it lighty (also lightie, laaitie) originally from 'light of heart'

By the way, I'm not sure about your usage of Bantu to mean 'black person' (ie in the Jewish slang). Going on instinct, I looked it up in OED and it says 'Bantu is a strongly offensive word in South African English, especially when used of individual people' Joziboy 1 March 2006, 18:58 UTC

Its a no win situation. "Black" is offensive to many, more so internationally than in SA. "Bantu" is considered offensive by some because it was used in the early days of apartheid. "Bantu" is however the term used by ethnologists for the speakers of the so-called Bantu languages. Got a better term that no one will find offensive? "African" doesn't work because a lot of white people born in Africa will moan that it is excluding them. Kuratowski's Ghost 01:49, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Not only Bantu, but Kaffer/Kaffir was also a term used by ethnologists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.207.47.60 (talk) 09:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, true. Can't even use 'native African' (like the native American model) because that would include the San etc. I've seen 'black African' quite often - what do you think of that? It assumes that there are other types (white Africans, Asian-Africans etc) and takes the edge off just using black as a noun. Joziboy 2 March 2006, 09:36 (UTC)

Frey

Id frey her 102.182.177.17 (talk) 21:26, 20 October 2022 (UTC)