Talk:List of Soviet divisions 1917–1945

1941 Rifle divisions (more info)

Moscow proletarian mrd (motor-rifle)
2nd Belorussian rd
3rd Pacific Ocean rd
4th Smolensk rd
5th Vitebsk rd
6th Orel rd
7th Chernigov md
8th Minsk rd
9th Caucasian mrd (mountain-rifle)
10th rd
11th rd
12th rd
13th Daghestan rd
14th Krivoy Rog rd
15th Sivashskaya md
16th Ulyanov rd
17th Gor'kiy rd
18th rd
19th Voronezh rd
the 20th proletariat of Donbass mrd
21st Perm rd
22nd Krasnodar rd
23rd Kharkov rd
24th Samara - Ulyanov Iron rd
25th Chapayevskaya rd
26th Zlatoust rd
27th Omsk rd
28th mountain mrd
29th Siberian md (motorized)
30th Irkutsk mrd
31th rd
32th Saratov rd
33th Belorussian rd
34th Middle Volga rd
35th Siberian rd
36th Transbaikal mrd
37th rd
38th rd
39th rd
40th Bogucharskaya rd
41th rd
42nd rd
43th rd
44th Kiev mrd
45th Volhnya rd
46th Dnepropetrovsk rd
47th mrd
48th rd
49th rd
50th Taman rd
51th Perekop rd
52nd rd
53th rd
54th rd
55th Kursk rd
56th Moscow rd
57th Ural mrd
58th mrd
59th rd
60th mrd
61th rd
62th Turkestan rd
63th Georgian mrd
64th rd
65th rd
66th rd
67th rd
68th Turkestan mrd
69th md
70th rd
71th rd
72th mrd
73th rd
74th rd
75th rd
76th Armenian mrd
77th Azerbaijan mrd 78th rd
79th rd
80th rd
81th md
82th md
83th Turkestan mrd
84th md
85th rd
86th rd
87th rd
88th rd
89th rd
90th rd
91th rd
92nd rd
93th Eastern Siberian rd
94th rd
95th Moldavian rd
96th Vinnitsa mrd
97th rd
98th rd
99th rd
100th rd
101th mrd
102nd rd
103rd md
104th rd
105th rd
106th rd
107th rd
108th rd
109th md
110th rd
111th rd
112th rd
113th rd
114th rd
115th rd
116th rd
117th rd
118th rd
119th rd
120th rd
121th rd
122th rd
123th rd
124th rd
125th rd
126th rd
127th rd
128th rd
129th rd
130th rd
131th md
132th rd
133th rd
134th rd
135th rd
136th rd
137th rd
138th mrd
139th rd
140th rd
141th rd
142th rd
143th rd
144th rd
145th rd
146th rd
147th rd
148th rd
149th rd
150th rd
151th rd
152th rd
153th rd
154th rd
155th rd
156th rd
157th rd
158th rd
159th rd
160th rd
161th rd
162th rd
163th md
164th rd
165th rd
166th rd
167th rd
168th rd
169th rd
170th rd
171th rd
172th rd
173th rd
174th rd
175th rd
176th rd
177th rd
178th rd
179th rd
180th rd
181th rd
182th rd
183th rd
184th rd
185th md
186th rd
187th rd
188th rd
189th rd
190th rd
191th rd
192th mrd
193th rd
194th mrd
195th rd
196th Dnepropetrovsk rd
197th Kiev rd
198th md
199th rd
200th rd
202th md
204th md
205th md
206th rd
208th md
209th md
210th md
212th md
213th md
214th rd
215th md
216th md
217th rd
218th md
219th md
220th md
221th md
222th rd
224th rd
227th rd
228th rd
229th rd
232th rd
233th rd
235th rd
236th md
237th rd
238th rd
239th md
240th md
--Mrg3105 (talk) 03:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Rifle divisions formed in Gorki

117-я стрелковая Познанская дивизия; 137-я стрелковая дивизия; 145-я стрелковая Витебская дивизия; 15-я гвардейская стрелковая Харьковско-Пражская дивизия; 16-я Литовская стрелковая Клайпедская дивизия; 171-я стрелковая Борисовская дивизия; 238-я стрелковая Карачевская дивизия; 274-я стрелковая дивизия; 279-я стрелковая Лисичанская дивизия; 322-я стрелковая Житомирская дивизия; 334-я стрелковая Витебская дивизия; 42-я гвардейская стрелковая Прилуцкая дивизия; 43-я гвардейская стрелковая Латышская Рижская дивизия; 85-я гвардейская стрелковая Рижская дивизия; 89-я гвардейская стрелковая Белгородско-Харьковская дивизия; 93-я Миргородская стрелковая дивизия; Бобруйская дивизия (I have yet to determine the number of this one-- mrg3105mrg3105 09:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

1941 Cavalry divisions

3th Bessarabskaya cd 5th cd 6th Chongarskaya cd 8th Far-Eastern cd 9th Crimean cd 14th cd

32th cd 36th cd --Mrg3105 (talk) 14:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Divisional histories

Buckshot06, do you have a database of divisional histories? I don't have one, but there is of course a lot of information now online in Russian. Invariably I will come across these in my own research, so should I save these for you?--Mrg3105 (talk) 07:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Put all the resources you find at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Russian_and_Soviet_military_history_task_force#Resources,

where a few other resources are now collected. That's the central point for all that kind of material. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 07:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I think you mean insert links to sites there right? I mean there are pages and pages of histories. I'll save then at home and when you need them, I'll 'process ' them ok?--Mrg3105 (talk) 08:08, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

With tashv.nm are you working your way back from 1945?--Mrg3105 (talk) 08:13, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Insert links to the major sites when you feel like it. I have all I need at the moment, because my focus is actually the ~200 divisions of the Soviet Army Ground Forces that existed in '91, and the ~30 divisions that exist now in the Russian Ground Forces. Histories for those thirty are the first priority, and for that, tashv is adequate, provided its linked to a list of operations those divs took part in. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Learn something new every day is my moto ;o) I though all Poles went to the Polish Corps (later Army), but they even made Guards -- mrg3105mrg3105 11:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Sources and references

Just a note that there are a couple of small errors in the references I noticed, so I went through the lot.
The reference 5 has a mis-spelled Russian word бьша. This is a result of scanning and should be была (was).
In reference 6 Craig's name is mis-spelled, should be Craig Crofoot.

I have also taken the liberty of translating the references and sources as it is a good idea to do so in the English Wikipedia. A note that one of the references uses Lensky rather then Lenskii you use elsewhere so I changed it to Lenskii.
All Russian source notes are via Lenskii.
1. ^ Scott and Scott, 1979, p.12
2. ^ David Glantz, Colossus reborn: The Red Army at War 1941-43, University press Kansas, 2005, p.717 note 5.
3. ^ Thus, the 6th rifle division of the 6th Rifle Corps with the 4th army in the ZapOVO (Western Special Military District) begun World War II, having 13,7 thousand personnel (Simonov. 100 days of war. Smolensk, “Rusich”, 1999, p.348 (document provided)) via Lenskii
4. ^ 43rd rifle division was formed in 1920s in Velikie Luki as the territorial formation of the Leningrad military district, in autumn 1937 it was relocated directly into Leningrad; 43rd rifle division was awarded the Order of Red Banner for participation in the Soviet-Finnish war; on the combat history of the division see, for example: “Red Banner Volgaside". Military Publishing, 1984, pp.367-368
5. ^ Formation was created in 1934. in Kuybyshev as the 70th rifle division (it participated in the Soviet- Finnish war and was it was awarded with the Order of Lenin); during October 1942 was reorganised as the45th Guards rifle division ; on the combat history of the division see, for example, Soviet Military Encyclopaedia, v.4, pp.431-431.
6. ^ Michael Avanzini, Craig Crofoot, Armies of the bear, Tiger Lily Publications LLC, 2004, ISBN 978-0972029636
7. ^ S.N.Zhilin and others “Under the Guard banner ". Arkhangelsk/Vologda. 1980
8. ^ From 01.07.35 was 83rd Turkestan mountain rifle division; reorganised as 128th Guards mountain rifle division in autumn 1943)
9. ^ http://www.winterwar.com/forces/SuArmy/SUArmy-OOB30111939.htm#isthmus
10. ^ [Zamoskvorechye district]
11. ^ 161st rifle division was formed in April - July 1942 on the territory of the Moscow Military District on the basis of the 13th separate rifle brigade, formed during the autumn 1941 in the South Caucasus Military District; on the combat history of the formation see, for example: M.K.Smolnyy “7,000 kilometers in battles and campaigns ". Military Publishing, 1982.)
12. ^ formation created in August - September 1941 in Stavropol' as the 343rd rifle division; reorganised into the 97th Guard rifle division in May 1942; on the combat history see, for example: “ World War II ". Soviet Encyclopaedia, 1985, p.573 or I.A.Samchuk “Guards from Poltava ". Military Publishing, 1965)
13. ^ Poirier and Conner show the 21st GRD as being formed from the 361st RD in mar 1942
14. ^ Feskov et al, p.114
15. ^ Feskov et al, 2004, table 2.4, p.51/52
16. ^ At Belau (Znamensk-Zhamensk)
17. ^ formation of 93rd (12th Guards) rifle brigade, from which the 92nd guard rifle division was expanded during April 1943 was performed in September 1942 in the Urals (“Red Banner from Ural ". Military Publishing, 1983, p. 137,)
18. ^ Keith E. Bonn (ed.), Slaughterhouse: The handbook of the Eastern Front, Aberjona press, Bedford, PA, 2005, p.376
19. ^ Red army handbook, Chapter 3.
• A. G. Lenskiii, Land forces of RKKA (Workers' and Peasants' Red Army) in pre-war years. Reference book. Saint Petersburg, B&K, 2000
• Robert G. Poirier and Albert Z. Conner, The Red Army Order of Battle in the Great Patriotic War, Novato: Presidio press, 1985. ISBN 0-89141-237-9.
• Steven J. Zaloga and Leland S. Ness, Red Army handbook 1941 - 1945, Phoenix mill: Sutton publishing, 1998. ISBN 0-7509-1740-7.
• Combat Composition of the Soviet Army 1941 - 1945 (official Soviet army Order of Battle from the Soviet General Staff Archives).
• http://samsv.narod.ru/
• Link from the 223rd rifle division found here
--Mrg3105 (talk) 00:11, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Division of the list

I'd like to suggest that this list be divided into Arms of Service lists, each with a structure that includes sections on Arm doctrine development, changes in structure, and links to prominent commanders.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 04:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia's problems are not of encyclopedic interest!

However in contrast to Wikipedia's reasonably complete descriptions of U.S., British, and German divisions, only a few Soviet divisions have articles here, mostly because the detailed histories have either not been translated from Russian or have not been fully released from the official archives. (See Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias).

Information on lots of division from lots of countries is not available, so will this become an apologetic template to be inserted at each such instance? How about one for every article that is missing such information....something like "Wikipedia apologises, but no books have been published on the subject that agree with our stringent requirements"? This entire paragraph adds nothing to the reader's information on the subject!--121.218.225.141 (talk) 14:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you sign in Mrg3105 (or as User:Shattered Wikiglass if you like)? It would add a little to your argument to be, in your earlier words, not an 'anon IP.' Buckshot06(prof) 15:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

You have a problem with responding to an IP address? Wikipedia is written collaboratively by volunteers from all around the World. Anyone with internet access can make changes to Wikipedia articles.--121.218.225.141 (talk) 00:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I have no problems responding to anon IPs. Do you want me to dredge up your problems responding to them? Buckshot06(prof) 05:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

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