Talk:List of Soviet records in athletics

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@Montell 74: Could you explain your position? Do you think it's OK to revert someone's edits without any explanation? My position is quite clear: BS should not be in Wikipedia, it should be neutral.

Which detail here is not neutral? This is history. If you like to add your view about "doping" records, so please go on. Montell 74 (talk) 16:07, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The main point is that I want to keep it neutral. That's why I'm reluctant to adding these details [1]. Ok, I'll keep the vast majority of your text, removing small non-neutral and needleess to say details. Take an example: List of United States records in athletics. Do you see something like: American athletics is immensely successful and many records of American athletes are at the same time Pan American and World records? No. Because of neutrality. I want this neutrality here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.170.80.151 (talk) 16:14, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First please be neutral yourself. "Much" is not "immensely". And yes, it would be neutral in an article of American records too because it is the TRUTH. Medal and record statistics do not lie.Montell 74 (talk) 16:49, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll add that information.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.170.73.116 (talk) 17:02, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Such was this country's success, it hasn't existed for over 25 years yet still ranks #2 on the Olympic medal table and #8 on the World Championships in Athletics medal table, despite only competing in 3 of the 16 championships held. As for the records in particular, given some Soviet-set world records are among the longest-lasting in history, there is also relevance there for this article. Describing sporting success as success is not bias. If we did not to describe the Soviet period as a successful one for athletes of that region then that would constitute bias. There are points about doping that could be made but we'll need a good source as most of these results are still internationally ratified. It is illuminating that the American record list similarly has a statement of success and no mention of doping, yet no questions of bias have been raised there. SFB 20:14, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]