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Cleanup[edit]

I tagged this list for cleanup, because I'm starting to doubt its value, since just about anyone who plays electric guitar has used a Tele at some point. I have doubts about the notability of some of the musicians listed--not merely whether they are themselves notable, but whether they are notable as Telecaster players. The list started as a remedy to the indiscriminate additions that were being made to the list of notable players on the main Telecaster page. Since then, the list has grown immensely, and while it has benefitted from better organization, I'm not sure that all or most of the information here is really useful. If it is to be kept, I believe entries must be pared down and limited to just those players who use the Telecaster as their "signature" instrument, or who have performed "classic" tracks on the instrument (for example, Jimmy Page's use of a Tele on Stairway to Heaven would warrant his inclusion). As a heuristic test for the first criterion, I suggest that an artist should not be included on the list if, in answering the question "What instrument does this musician play?", a knowledgeable fan is not immediately compelled to say "Why, the Telecaster, of course!" as a first answer. Rohirok 00:11, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alphabetize![edit]

I really wish people would alphabetize their additions to this page, and maybe add some notes about what songs or albums the artist used the Tele on, or what kind of Tele they happened to use. Anyway, I'm through alphabetizing this list. Damned lazy bastards. Rohirok 04:09, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

2021, thus is still an issue. 120.21.96.125 (talk) 00:24, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Standards for the list[edit]

This article in its current state is of dubiouis merit, as it is mostly an indiscriminate list of musicians who happen to have touched a Telecaster at some point in their careers. Use of the Telecaster is so ubiquitous among guitar players that the mere fact that a particular player happens to have strapped one on at a performance, or has been seen using one in a video, is hardly significant. If the only criterion for inclusion is that an artist has used a Telecaster at some point, then this list could be expanded into hundreds, perhaps thousands of entries. For example, perhaps half or more of electric guitarists in the country genre alone have been seen with one of these guitars. Yet such expansion would offer little significant information to the reader. The reader needs to know why it's notable that a particular artist used the Telecaster.

To give this article more substance, I will be going through it and deleting entries for which I cannot find a source, or whose use of the Telecaster is not significant to their careers or to the history of the model. Of those artists for whom their use of the Telecaster is notable, I will be including a brief note which explains why such use is notable. Rohirok 19:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I support your idea. Just about every guitar model has a "POV" user list that requires close scrutiny. Good luck with your task! Cheers! Anger22 19:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who's missing? Who doesn't belong?[edit]

Where´s Bruce Springsteen? I was surprised with his absence in the article.

I found a reference. He's in now. Rohirok 01:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure Bob Dylan belongs in this list, but I can't find a proper reference confirming extended use. I'm removing him until I can find one. Rohirok 02:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jon Buckland (Coldplay) isn't on here, but his wikipedia entry says he uses Telecasters

Greg Dulli

Greg Dulli from the Afghan Whigs/Twilight Singers/Gutter Twins uses Teles almost exclusively and even had a photo featured in Fender Frontline 2004.

http://www.summerskiss.com/images/fender-telecaster.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.2.122.1 (talk) 10:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The inclusion of Jimmy Page on this list simply speaks to its lack of credibility. Page may have played a Tele at times, just like everyone else did. Who hasn't played one? But Page is not known as a faithful Tele player. Might as well include Eric Clapton as well. He's played one.HM211980 (talk) 01:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)HM211980[reply]

Michael Houser of the jam-band Widespread Panic certainly belongs on the list. I don't think he played anything but a Telecaster Deluxe Plus (with the exception of a black Telecaster Custom early in his career). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.156.177.18 (talk) 02:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Kapranos needs to be put in, considering he mainly uses a telecaster deluxe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.179.127 (talk) 21:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Players who possibly/probably belong on the list, but need references[edit]

This is a list of artists who possibly or probably belong in the article, but for whom proper references have not yet been found to confirm their notability as Telecaster players. I've placed them here so that editors can better discuss their merits as prospective list entries, as well as to expand the effort to find proper sources. Please feel free to add names (in proper alphabetical order, please!) of artists whom you think belong on the list. Please also strike (<s>strike</s>) the names of artists who have been added to the article with a proper reference, or artists whom consensus indicates definitely do not belong on the list. Thank you. Rohirok 17:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    • Jim Root of SlipKnoT,is a tele user.I dont have many references why hes prominent,but his signature model is coming out around 2007.
    • Removed Jeff Beck entry from IP user with no citation (and was probably a tad too long anyway). Any issues please raise on my talk. Liverpool Scouse 09:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ed Bickert and his old Tele are featured in an old Guitar Player magazine, but volume and issue number have not yet been identified.
Guitar Player Magazine, July 1987 contains a feature article entitled the Canadian Guitar Summit focusing on a collaboration between Ed Bickert, Rik Emmett, Liona Boyd and Alex Lifeson. Have not yet found a quote from it to include as a ref for Bickert's Tele use(although it is mentioned) Anger22
Bickert is now in the article with his reference. Rohirok 01:50, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jim Campilongo is a Tele master. In a Puremusic.com review, the reviewer specifically mentions that Campilongo should be on the distinguished Telecaster player short list. Though he may be best known as the guitarist of The Little Willies, which is to say, not very well known, his talent and mastery, so specifically tied to this instrument, should qualify him to be a less well known name among the famous on any list of great Telecaster playsers. Check him out. Davement
  • Bob Dylan used Tele when he first went electric, and many times throughout his career. Accounts of his famous first-ever electric performance at the Newport Folk Festival differ, claiming he used either a Tele or a Strat.
  • Terry Kath appeared to favor a unique stickered Tele.
  • Richie Kotzen is described as a guitar virtuoso, and is pictured with Tele in his article. Richie Kotzen cannot beat the popularity of Keith Richards, due to his age and the fact that at a young age he plays the jazz-fusion. He is a musician, not a model, so he probably doesn't do commercials for the telecaster. However he is pictured everywhere with the telecaster, he plays telecaster most of the time, he talks about telecaster in the interviews. All that said, I believe he deserve the place in the main list next to all others there, and maybe more than some. This is why I am adding him there.
  • Prince is definitely a Tele player, and also seen playing a bizarrely shaped Tele-inspired guitar.
  • Tom Morello has a Telecaster on his standard equip. list but isn't one of his "named" guitars.
Morellos 1982 Tele is actully named (Sendero Luminoso), the guitar was used all through his career with Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave and now with Street Sweeper Social Club. Kept in drop-d tuning pretty much always it seems...
Digitalburn - Tom Morellos guitar gear
Premier guitar - Tom Morello interview
Uber Pro Audio - Tom Morello gear rig and equipment
In my opinion he would be notable, but a secong opinon would be great.... Roger Workman (talk) 13:51, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mick Ronson seems more identified with the Les Paul, but has used Tele, and his Tele is part of the inspiration for notable Tele player Marty Stuart's Fender tribute model.
  • Arlen Roth has been called a highly notable Tele user, is an author of several books, and has been an editor for Guitar Player magazine.
Roth has been added with his reference. Rohirok 01:50, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Eddie Vedder is definitely a Tele player, and once said he had an affair with the Tele.
I'm definitely sure that Eddie Vedder must be in this list, here is the link to his gear according to pearl jam synergy, and if you look at his article you can see that he's playing a telecaster. Tony
Does 'just playing' one make it notable? Rohirok already has him on the list of "potentials" in the section just below this one. What needs to be found is a citation that clarifies his use as notable or extensive. He isn't just a Tele player...he also uses an SG quite often so finding a good citation for "notable Tele use" could be tricky. Anger22 03:10, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, here are some links/pics of him through his career, the date stamp in them is different on each and usually they have intervals of one year or more:

I would like to know what notable is for you all, because, to me he would be very notable, but, talking about extensive, he has been an extensive telecaster player. Greetings. Tony 06:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I don't know how to reference, but the following should definately be in the list. I can probably find more references if necessary.

  • Graham Coxon (b. 1969) a solo artist and former member of Blur, Graham is known for having and playing a number of telecasters including most famously his Fender American '52 Telecaster (blonde reissue) which features a Gibson PAF humbucker pickup in the neck position. (Sorry I couldnt find the way to reference magazines. But it is in the UK issue of Guitarist magazine, April 2006, issue 275, page 52-53. Written by Micheal Leonard)
  • Jeff Buckley (1966-1997), played a telecaster for the majority of his live performances.

(This can be seen on the Live DVD - Asin: 0738900672, 2000)


TWO MORE:

Bob Marley played a Tele on most/all of his songs. Sorry, no reference, I just know it by listening. Check out "No Woman No Cry" for a particularly distinctive Tele sound.

Johnny Marr from The Smiths played a Telecaster. He isn't on the list yet. (unsigned)

Deryck Whibley, plus more on Jeff Buckley[edit]

In response to a message from Aguerriero: Of course, I have no objection to anyone adding someone to the list if they provide a reliable reference that shows that the musician's Tele use was notable. I had deleted Jeff Buckley earlier on the grounds that his career was just too short. However, I see no problem with putting him back in if it can be shown that he mostly used the Tele and was a highly regarded virtuoso performer, despite his short career. I don't have a reference showing that, since all I have found was a brief mention of him using one in a performance once.

I think Deryck Whibley is a dubious entry. Sum 41 is a really young group, and I haven't heard or seen anything indicating that he is a highly regarded virtuoso performer. In any case, an online forum on the band's own label's website isn't reliable. The tendency for such sources to engage in partisan promotion and puffery makes them unreliable on their own. Substantiation from a source unaffiliated with the band is needed. Rohirok 19:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


He isn't a virtuoso- he is a pop punk artist. He has nearly no musicianship as most pop punkers do..he just knows how to write catchy, poppy riffs and choruses.

If he is listed as a telecaster player simply because he thumps out power chords on a "squier", then that is sacrilige. I saw about 20 different top 40 country bands playing at a rock/blues/country festival where the guitarists used Telecasters. They are no doubt better musicians then Whibley- he doesn't even fit in a title : Top 20000 guitarists of all time. Unfortuately Derek is just another nobody- his music isnt timeless and will be gone in 10 years. Where is Hammer now? WHere is Vanilla Ice? His legacy will fade quicker then this debate on his "telecaster" playing.

/thread —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.157.71 (talk) 09:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your personal opinion of Deryck Whibley's musicianship notwithstanding, Squier makes a Deryck Whibley signature model. That in itself makes his use of a Telecaster notable and worthy of inclusion in this list. Marshall Stax (talk) 00:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Deryck Whibley belongs at this list, even more so than Jimmy Page. HM211980 (talk) 02:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)HM211980[reply]

Jimmy Page? Do you even know what you are talking about? Page's "Dragon" Telecaster (given to him by Jeff Beck) is one of the most iconic individual electic guitars of all time. And after 1975 the neck off of Dragon went onto Page's other notable Tele, the Botswana "Brown Bomber" Which he used on the 1977, 1980 Led Zeppelin tours along with his performance at the ARMS Charity concert. He also used this Tele during tours with The Firm and other live performances and many studio recordings. You really don't know anything about this subject if you question his notability as a Telecaster player. Fair Deal (talk) 03:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Solid list entry needs proper citation[edit]

John Jorgenson, considered one of the world's most versatile guitarists, has played with the Hellecasters, Desert Rose Band and Elton John. Along with Hellecasters band mates Will Ray and Jerry Donahue, all played modified versions of Telecasters. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anger22 (talk • contribs) 10:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Can we use the same reference as for Jerry Donahue? I haven't read it so I don't know what it's content is. Also, the link I originally provided was the Hellecaster's offical webpage which even featured a "match the face to the Telecaster" game! Also their name comes from the fact that they wanted to play the "Hell" out of their "Telecasters".... though I can't find any cite for that except our own internal Hellecasters page, which doesn't reference the comment. Liverpool Scouse 11:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a copy of he Bacon book so I can't comment. Will Ray's citation is a "self-ref" which isn't all that great either. I was hoping to find a different one for him too. I created the Jorgenson article a few weeks ago with the intent of finding a good Tele ref to include him on this page but got side tracked. His AMG bio mentions Tele use but not enough to include a quote here. I will dig through old GP magazines and see if I can scrounge something. Hopefully a ref will emerge soon. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 13:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good concrete info is hard to come by. That's why I added Jerry Donahue and Will Ray and not John J. The fact Jerry and Will play Tele's as their main instrument in a notable way is incontrovertible, even though Jerry D also plays a Strat wired as a Tele :-). John J is more troublesome, since he plays so many different guitars. As far as my quote about how their name came about, it was a print interview I read years ago and can't recall where I read it.--MARQUIS111 14:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Bernie LaBarge (b. 1953) is a Canadian session guitarist, recording artist and live player. Bernie currently performs with David Clayton-Thomas. Bernie's guitar of choice since 1991 has been his ash Tele Plus.
  • Wilko Johnson (b. 1947) founding member of Dr Feelgood has always played the Telecaster.

David Gilmour[edit]

Here is the text from the main article:

* David Gilmour (b. 1946) has used a Telecaster and Esquire from Fender in addition to his regularly used Fender Stratocaster. His beat-up looking Esquire was used on his 1978 self-titled solo album on backing tracks, the studio version of "Run Like Hell" from The Wall, it was pictured in the back of his 1984 solo album About Face and recently on Paul McCartney's Run Devil Run album. He used a Telecaster for some early recording and used a sunburst Telecaster for all of the guitar solos on the track "Dogs" from Pink Floyd's 1977 album Animals. He used a yellow Telecaster on "Run Like Hell" on live performances on Delicate Sound of Thunder and P*U*L*S*E.

Gilmour's use is well known, but, in keeping with the guidelines of the list a citation(s) are needed. If someone can find one they can copy the above text back in. Anger22 10:16, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Featured List[edit]

I think this could be a candidate for featured list. I am going to try to make some of the changes suggested in the peer review and clean up the language a bit. If anyone doesn't agree, just revert me and post a note here. --Aguerriero (talk) 19:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the reference link for the Status Quo members expired. I looked them up using the Internet Wayback Machine [1], but it's just a page of broken pictures with a link to an interview. Is there any other source for this information that could be linked? 69.23.115.197 22:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I had gone ahead and promoted the list to featured status, since it had 4 support votes (counting the nomination). Then I remembered that the list must be a candidate for at least 10 days and checked to original nomination date. Oops. I reverted all the steps I took to promote it and restored its candidate status. Everything looks to be back the way it should be. The recent changes have been quite dramatic and positive. Featured list status (on the 11th!) seems pretty well assured. Well done, Aguerriero and the rest! 69.23.115.197 05:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


possible addition[edit]

I suggested Mick Green (1944-2010) several months ago - he was deleted. Possibly not a world-famous name but, I believe, a really significant Telecaster player. Started out with Johnny Kidd and the Pirates, moved on to Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas for a massive US tour, later played with Bryan Ferry, Van Morrison, Paul McCartney (live at the Cavern). I first heard about him in about 1964, as the man who introduced the Telecaster to Britain - this information from David Mallet, with whom I was at school at the time and who had just bought a Telecaster. This is the same David Mallet who worked on Shindig with Jack Good, before becoming a major director of videos for Queen, Bowie and many many more. Mick Green wasn't just a remarkable player, staying true to his Telecaster for almost all his career, he invented a whole style of playing. Wilko Johnson has made it onto the list and he freely acknowledges that his Rhythm/Lead style of playing came from Green (you can find this in an interview on YouTube). Put that together with his part in introducing the Telecaster to Britain and it would seem extraordinary to exclude him. Check him out on YouTube with The Pirates (they're not a pretty sight but the level of playing is immense).

Gayev

An addition[edit]

Bo Madsen (Mew) plays a telecaster. I got no references for that but finding them shouldn't be hard 213.186.239.6 19:46, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


same here with Mark Engles From dredg. it's just about the only thing i see him play, look on youtube, but ihave no writen down source to verify. and sorry for adding it to this "post" but i'm not sure where else to add it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.197.14.124 (talk) 23:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Frusciante[edit]

Where the hell is his telecasters? He has some very pretty vintage ones. Here's a source: http://www.locborg.de/fru/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=131&Itemid=139 . John has two other tele's, but it isn't sourced there, but atleast two are there soruced for you guys to add. Xihix 01:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That link just indicates ownership. But does not imply notable or historical Telecaster use. It appears to be just a gear list. 156.34.210.255 01:40, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Whats your point? Not every person on that list has a "notable and historical Telecaster use". He has some very vintage guitars he's been using for quite some time. Every other one of his guitar's "Notable Players" list have him listed there. Xihix 00:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The lead says "musicians who have made notable use of the Fender Telecaster" - "musicians are listed here only if their use of this instrument was especially significant — that is, they are players with long careers who have a history of faithful Telecaster use, or the particular guitar they used was unique or of historical importance, or their use of the Telecaster contributed significantly to the popularization of the instrument." Frusciante owns several mid-60s model Fenders incl. a couple of Teles. But he's not notable for his use of any of them other than his Strat use. And he is listed, justifiably, on the Stratocaster player list. The Strat player list is not a featured article because it is just a glorified gear list. The Tele players list is a featured article because it is a referenced and verifiable resource and an excellent companion piece to the main model article. There are many players mentioned on this talk page who are "players" but who aren't on the list because they are more notable for playing a different model. Or because a valid reference hasn't been found to prove notability, faithful use, model popularization or significantly unique instrument. Frusciante is just another "owner" who doesn't make the cut. 156.34.223.171 00:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
He uses his Telecaster on quite a few songs. To cite a few, Dani California(in the studio, not live), Can't Stop, Throw Away Your Television, Easily, Dosed(no reference, but I'm quite sure one of the guitars heard on the album is a telecaster), Universally Speaking. I'm sure there are more, these are the songs I've found in a short amount of research on youtube and in my album collection. WhiteHand 11:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
John did popularize the Telecaster quite a bit. He's been playing the Telecaster for over 20 years and continues playing them for live songs like Around The World which has a signature Telecaster country twang to it. He should be included here.

Signature and/or replicas[edit]

Wouldn't it make sense to note the players that have signature models?

It would make more sense just to stick a comment in the main Tele article saying: "Fender makes signature models for many notable players. A link to the Fender signature model website is hereinclude Fender.com link 156.34.210.255 22:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good idea, but the fender site doesn't cover all the signature models. For example, there were 2 Jerry Donahue teles (American & Japanese models) but they're no longer there. Peavey now do a Jerry Donahue model (tele-shaped). Has anyone an idea how this information might be best included? Doozy88 16:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested inclusions[edit]

If memory serves, Steve Morse used a telecaster for years, albeit a heavily modified one, before he switched to his signature Music Man models. And Mike Stern is also a noticable user, although his signature model is made by Yamaha. Doozy88 12:27, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More Jeff Buckley[edit]

Regarding Jeff Buckley, He was definitely a tele player (see here. As for him being a "highly regarded virtuoso performer" I believe he is, and if you follow these links, there is some evidence (there would be more, but i assembled this post in a hurry.

His version of hallelujah was named rolling stones #259th greatest song of all time

Robert plant and Jimmy Page where complementary of himPage even called it the best thing he had heard in Years)

And in the documentary "Jeff Buckley: Everybody Here Wants You" He was complemented by people ranging by a wide range of people vareying from record representatives to Brad Pitt

I am going to add him to the list (using the old paragraph that was removed earlier because i dont wanna write a new one). If anyone has an issue with buckley, remove him again i guess. But i feel i have provided sufficient evidence to add him to the list

Would someone be willing to write an entry for buckley, i would but i dont feel that i am a strong enough writer, or know enough about jeff Ninandnirvana 20:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 23:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kurt Cobain[edit]

I have removed the following "* Kurt Cobain (1967 - 1994), he had a white left-handed telecaster, known for be the last Cobain's "favorite" guitar. He was known for play with Fender Mustang guitars and, usually, some Fender Jaguar, and at the end of his carrer, his own Fender Jag-Stang line."

I removed it due to the fact that it is somewhat poorly written, unsourced and kurt cobain was not a notable tele player--Ninandnirvana 20:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whether notable or not, as far as I'm aware, the majority of the videos out there of Nirvana playing live feature one. I agree with you about the writing quality, quite terrible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WhiteHand (talk • contribs) 12:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
really? which videos? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalhan raina007 (talk • contribs) 09:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cobain was not a tele player. He used jaguars and mustangs. He also used cheap strats when he planed on smashing the guitar. Although he occasionally used teles, they were not a main guitar of his. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.214.229.81 (talk) 03:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another Jeff Buckley Request[edit]

I would definitely say that Jeff Buckley should be up here. The Telecaster has never been exclusive to country/classic rock and I recently have purchased a 400 pound telecaster mostly thanks to the inspiration of Jeff Buckley (not on the list), Radiohead and Bloc Party (again, not on the list.) It seems quite biased to me that most of these artists here are country/classic rock/blues. The beauty of the Tele is that it can be used for those styles, as well as funk, alternative, pop and many more.

There are many reasons that Jeff should be on here:

There is a double album of his called "Live at Sin-é," which features only a Telecaster played clean or with a bit of reverb. How many artists on this list have recorded a double album using only a telecaster and vocals? Listening to this album is the perfect way for learning the tone of the Tele.

Hallelujah, and several recordings of his have a very unique sound out of his Tele. This sound I'm talking about is him doing slow melodic fingerpicking using a capo in middle/high position with reverb and incredibly minimal overdrive to add emphasis to the loud parts. I can't think of another tele player to have done that.

Obviously, everyone wants to see their favourite artist on here and I'm no exception - but I have tried several times to edit with no luck and it seems that there are several people discussing Jeff on this page who want to see him up there so I would be extremely grateful if I saw Jeff up here one day.

Yes, his career was short but I am certain that the amount of hours that Jeff spent in his lifetime holding a Tele is more than Bob Dylan and David Gilmour put together any day. As an example, anyone that's seen footage of Jeff and knows something about guitars will always assosciate him with his tele whereas thy would think of a strat if they thought of David Gilmour. This confuses and frustrates me - and I also think that it would be a good rememberance of Jeff's skills after ten years since his tragic passing.

I am sorry that I don't have a wikipedia account and that I'm so bad at this so I'll sign it with an X.

Jeff Buckley's been one person that editors have been wanting to add for quite some time. The problem is, no one has yet found the right sources to make it happen. If a reliable source can be found confirming that Jeff Buckley was a faithful Telecaster player and a highly regarded guitar virtuoso, then he ought to be put in. I think that latter criterion has been met. All that's needed is a reliable source for his faithful or almost exclusive Tele use. I have not found that in any of my books, but someone else might in some other source. Nick Graves 03:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A2380510

http://www.jeffbuckley.com/rfuller/buckley/faq/25gear.html

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:3n00nnkI3kQJ:mojopin.org/pages/telecaster.php+jeff+buckley+telecaster&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5

On the last link – it says that during his funeral – his main telecaster sat on stage next to his urn. I don’t think you’d put a guitar next to someone’s urn unless it was a huge part of their life as Jeff’s Telecster was.

In addition to those links – almost all youtube footage of Jeff will show him playing a telecaster. So I hope that with those links, the huge public backing visible on this page and the reference you stated about proof that Jeff was a highly regarded guitar virtuoso, - that you or – someone else can put him up here as he deserves to be.

PS: Will someone take down David Gilmour and Bob Dylan? David Gilmour is highly notable for the Stratocaster – definitely and Bob Dylan is highly notable for his incredible lyrics – but neither of these artists have shaped the sound as much as other artists on this list.

And also – I’m pretty sure Jeff has shaped the telecaster sound more that the guitarist from Blur who basically just played chords and the occasional basic solo or arpeggio.

<Signed: The same person who created this discussion point>

The first 2 weblinks do not pass WP:RS. The third fails RS and WP:V. The internet is a horrible place to find quality references. Books are much better. Tony Bacon's Telecaster book is cited on this page quite a bit. And if Buckley were truly notable one would think he would've ended up in the Bacon book. But his 'non-presence' here would indicate no. Bacon's recently updated "The Fender Electric Guitar Book" would be the next best resource for any kind of notability ref. I am holding that book in my hands right now... no mention anywhere of Buckley in there either. As for the previous comments about David Gilmour. His notability is referenced up the ying yang. Yes he's a notable Strat player. But his tele use is more than well documented. Bob Dylan as a Telecaster player is no more notable than.. me as a Telecaster player... skill wise or whatever. But Dylan going electric is one of the top 5 monumental moments in Rock n Roll history. And he did it with a Tele in his hand. Even if he hadn't taken the time to plug it in... "Dylan goes electric"... with a Tele... gets him front row centre on a list that requests notability with the model. Buckley aside... I think the most disheartening omission from the list is... and has always been Terry Kath. Surely a ref can be found for him and his Tele smothered in Pignose stickers. 156.34.224.2 (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So; because David Gilmour played a Telecaster a few times and it was very well documented - it's okay for him to be on this list as opposed to Buckley - who it seems pretty obvious to me and countless others probably including yourself, ate off his Telecaster. And also, is Tony Bacon is the final word on Telecaster players? Is it that if he doesn't see fit to add Buckley to his book - he won't be added to this list? This list is suppsosedly one of the best lists on Wikipedia yet to me it just seems to be what a few people and a few books supposedly say. The next thing I'm going to see on this list is that Avril Lavigne has been added because she has a signature Squier model and it's "well-documented." Give me a fucking break.

(I'd like to here that I am a big fan of almost all the artists on here - ranging from Frank Black, to Muddy Waters, Keith Richards and many others including David Gilmour and Bob Dylan.) I'm not just some indie kid who enjoys only Jeff Buckley, Coldplay, Keane etc.

Anyway, my angryness aside, - in the Live at Sin-é Legacy Edition CD Booklet and in "Dream Brother: The Lives and Music of Jeff and Tim Buckley," there are books which will tell you what you already know if that's any help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.118.200 (talk) 19:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From Six Decades of the Fender Telecaster, by Tony Bacon (p. 109): "Jeff Buckley appeared solo with little more than his Tele in support on Live At Sin-E, his pre-fame 1993 EP." Is that enough for his use to be considered notable? I don't think so, but it helps. A reliable source documenting almost exclusive latter-day use of the Tele would clinch it, I think. A reliable source for the Tele at his funeral would be good too.

I didn't find anything on Kath in the above book. Regarding Dylan: I recall looking into this, and found conflicting reports about Dylan's first on-stage electric guitar--some said Tele, some said Strat. Even so, the Tele did end up being a prominent feature of his early electrified period. I'm ambivalent about Gilmour. He did cut some great tracks with his Tele, but seems to have been much more partial to the Strat.

I don't think anyone who has discussed this has anything against Buckley being included. It all boils down to finding reliable sources documenting notable use. I think the sources are out there, and it's just a matter of finding them and citing them. Nick Graves (talk) 19:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, this is really a case of what we "know" vs. what we can back up with reliable sources. It is clear that JB has quite a following and he was certainly a great musician in his short career. He also used Tele's almost exclusively. But this is a Featured List and our criteria are clear - the artist's use of the Tele has to be notable to the point that people felt compelled to write about it in reliable sources. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 19:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Okay then - I'm changing proffesion to an author. Well, thanks for explaining all this to me everyone - I know Jeff will be up here one day - and I look forward to that day. I'll be patient and quiet now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.118.200 (talk) 23:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jesse Ed Davis should be here! His life is very UNDOCUMENTED[edit]

Jesse Ed Davis used a Telecaster for both live DVD performances he is on=

Rolling Stones Rock n Roll Circus and Concert For Bangladesh

Yet, his life is extremely undocumented. He doesnt have an official site, and since he was mainly a session musician he has no real affiliations..other than with Taj Mahal; the only band he ever was a "member".

Please someone supply a link. I have searched and cannot find any..its so frustrating to see if not the BEST session player of the 1960's-70's going without acknowledgement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.157.71 (talk) 09:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Russell Lissack[edit]

Should Russell Lissack be included? In many sorces, including his wiki page, his use of a telecaster is stated.

http://www.alloutguitar.com/interview/artists_and_bands/bloc_party039s_guitar_man_russell_lissak

Haris145 (talk) 17:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so I put back the Russell Lissack entry that "KP" (?) put in, but with different wording and a ref. Please change it if you wish. Haris145 (talk) 00:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Dylan '58 Tele[edit]

Where in the reference does it state that he owned a '58 Tele? I can't find it. To the best of my knowledge, the only "Fenders" he used during 1965 & 1966 were a whole bunch of "CBS Fenders" that were given to him by the company on the condition that they could use pictures of him, well, holding them mostly:) Pat Pending (talk) 17:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Quit Deleting Merle Haggard[edit]

He is one of the more famous telecaster guitarists and has a signature model. I sourced it, so quit deleting him please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.174.59.12 (talk) 22:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia can't be used as a reference for itself. Entries to this list need to have a third party reference that meets WP:RS and WP:V criteria. That simply means no amateur fansites or blogs. Only references that meet WP:RS can support new entries to the list. Libs 22:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

James Root[edit]

Why was James Root removed from the list? He is in two very high selling bands and I sourced the information well. This is the edit which I made that was removed and I am just wondering, what is wrong with it? REZTER TALK ø 20:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is discussion on the Guitarist Project page for this article, and the other player lists, for notability and inclusion. The consensus was that having a signature model wasn't enough criteria for notability. Peter Fleet (talk) 20:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So what else is notable then? Shall he be known for being a telecaster player or just be a famous musician who plays a telecaster? Looking through the article most of the guitarists are just like "[Name] (born) a [genre] guitarist who plays a telelcaster". It's kind of stupid. Jim Root is certainly a notable musician, Slipknot is one of the highest selling metal acts around and Stone Sour are not far behind them. REZTER TALK ø 13:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The criteria on the main page lead-in says: "they are players with long careers who have a history of faithful Telecaster use, or the particular guitar they used was unique or of historical importance, or their use of the Telecaster contributed significantly to the popularization of the instrument." Mr. Root doesn't fall into any of those descriptions. He is a short term user (after using PRS through most of his career) and is currently one of Fender's marketing flock due to his bands popularity. Fender makes quite a few signature models for players that will likely be out-of-production in a year or two. In the grand scheme of things he is just a player no different than any of the other hundreds/thousands of guitarists who play the model. Peter Fleet (talk) 14:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Jimmy Page[edit]

Does Page fit the current "notable use" criteria for inclusion?

  • "...players with long careers who have a history of faithful Telecaster use..." Nope. While there have been some significant recordings with the Tele, his use cannot be characterized as "faithful." Everyone knows he's mostly a Gibson player.
  • "...or the particular guitar they used was unique or of historical importance..." Don't think so.
  • "...or their use of the Telecaster contributed significantly to the popularization of the instrument..." Maybe, but I don't see a source for this. Nick Graves (talk) 00:43, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think the earlier post on this page pretty much clears it. Page's "Dragon" is one of the most notable individual Telecasters going. It was given to him by Jeff Beck and used all through the Yardbirds years, the first years of Led Zeppelin including the Stairway to Heaven solo. Page also used another notable Tele (known as the Brown Bomber) from 1975 clear through his years with The Firm (one of his main stage guitars while in that band) It makes a very prominent appearance at LZ's Knebworth shows and can be seen in the DVD "HEavy Metal Kids". The neck from "Dragon" became a replacement neck on the Brown Bomber in 1977. Custom made replicas of the Dragon Tele show up at shops like Gruhn fairly frequently and if the detail and quality are good it is not surprising to see the replicas go for over 4-5K just because of the unique notability of the original Dragon Tele. A particular guitar.. unique... of historical importance... there is no doubt that this single instrument passes that criteria without any problem. Page used the Dragon and then the Brown Bomber quite faithfully for over 20 years. The BB Tele is the one with the B-Bender and his use of that piece of hardware stands out on several LZ and Firm tracks (like Ten Years Gone). Hope that helps. The Real Libs-speak politely 01:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. But it still remains to document all of this substantiation with reliable sources. The current source does not confirm any of this (I was the one who cited Burrows for the Page entry a long time ago). You know a lot about this--what sources do you have for the information your presented above? It would really improve the entry and make Page's suitability manifest if these details were added and documented. Nick Graves (talk) 02:01, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well? The citation and information in the Page entry currently do not support his inclusion according the the list criteria. Absent that, he ought to be removed, pending reliable source confirmation and citation of what you stated above. Nick Graves (talk) 22:01, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Page's Telecaster is well described in the Tony Bacon Telecaster book which is already used as a prime resource for this article. I used to have this book but cannot find it at the moment. It would simply be a matter of getting the page numbers from the book. I understand that Wiki libs is a librarian. Perhaps he can get access to this book. Tony Bacon books are fantastic resources but, unfortunately, in my region of Australia they are not easy to find in my local book shops. Aussie Ausborn (talk) 00:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm that Page's Dragon Tele is well documented in more than one Tony Bacon book. Along with the Telecaster book mentioned earlier, Bacon also details the guitar in his 50 Years of Fender book describing it as one of the most unique Telecaster's ever used. Also, in the July 1977 Guitar Player Magazine, Steve Rosen does an extensive interview with Page about his equipment. Page confirms that he used the Telecaster for the entire first Led Zeppelin album as well as the Stairway solo. He confirms that the guitar was a gift from Jeff Beck. He also says the famous Dragon paintjob was done by him. Page says that the strange pickguard was done by using a reflective plastic sheet under a clear pickguard which resulted in the colour changing rainbow effect that the pickguard had. Page goes on to say that of all his equipment his Telecaster combined with his little Supro combo amp that he used through the 60s and early 70s was his favourite because of the unique tone he got from it. In the interview Page says one of his main guitars for the 1975 and shortened 1977 tour was a brown Telecaster (the Brown Bomber) and that the B-Bender that was installed in it was done for Page specifically by Gene Parsons of The Byrds (he is the inventor of the device). Brad Tolinski and Greg DiBenedetto also did a lengthy 3 part interview with Page where he basically repeated all the information found in the 1977 GW interview except it went on to include that the brown Telecaster was also Page's main guitar during most of the sessions for In Through The Out Door (a blue Strat was the other guitar used). Page used that Telecaster for his appearance at the Multiple Sclerosis benefit concert in 1982. He also is seen using the brown Telecaster in his onstage appearances with Roy Harper from around the same era as the ARMS concert. The video releases of these concerts are available and show Page using a Telecaster and no other guitar (except for the EDS-1275 on his instrumental version of StH). I am not sure how to do a cite video template to add these in to the list. Here is a picture of Page using the same Telecaster in 1984 link Perhaps the other citations I mentioned can also be added to the article. Peter Fleet (talk) 10:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I hate to be so demanding, but since you have access to the above mentioned sources, do you think you could add the pertinent information and citations? Unfortunately, I do not have access to the magazine issues you mention. Nick Graves (talk) 01:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Noddy Holder[edit]

Why has Noddy Holder been deleted?

He is famous for his telecaster and has made one of the greatest contributions to British music. I have included a photo of him playing it so why was it deleted with no explanation given? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.6.147 (talk) 08:29, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please take a closer look at the inclusion criteria. It's not enough for the artist to have played a Telecaster (which is all the picture you cite as a source documents), but they must have made notable use of the Telecaster, as defined in the first section of the article. Holder might have made notable use of the Tele, but a source other than a picture is necessary to establish that. Nick Graves (talk) 15:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bertrand Cantat, Judah Bauer[edit]

Bertrand Cantat, the singer and guitarist of the French rock band Noir Desir is definitely worth mentioning. He plays the Telecaster in every occasion I've seen him, but being french I can't find a good English source other than a million videos at youtube.

Judah Bauer, maybe a bit less known, would still be worth mentioning. I added him once but someone deleted him. He plays in The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, one of the more known punk blues bands, and has always played the Telecaster (and is quite known for it inside the circles...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoopeOK (talk • contribs) 20:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elvis Costello[edit]

He should definitely be in, I added him -BUT- I'm such a newbie here I didn't have the skill to add the reference correctly. Anwyays here's a good reference page for one: http://www.elviscostello.info/articles/d-g/guitar_world.020601a.html So if someone would mind adding that in/fixing my change. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.152.99.31 (talk) 20:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Gaze[edit]

Why do you have delete Lee Gaze?Unbekannte Spezies (talk) 10:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

El Hefe[edit]

Why was El Hefe deleted? Lead guitarist for NOFX, probably the biggest independent band on the planet, exclusively plays a 1978 Tele. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manbilong (talk • contribs) 10:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for deletion was given in the edit summary. Wikis are not reliable sources. If El Hefe exclusively plays a Tele, he definitely belongs, but only after someone has found and cited a reliable source that documents this fact. Can you find such a source? Nick Graves (talk) 00:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gustavo Cerati[edit]

Gustavo Cerati is a regular user of this guitar. I included it in the list. someone deleted because they said I needed references, now I got references. Now someone deleted because it says a user is not notable. You do not know, does not mean it is not remarkable. The Telecaster is a guitar that is available worldwide. Gustavo is not well known in the U.S. but in Latin America is one of the most important musicians in rock music, so YES is remarkable. sorry if I wrote something wrong, I do not speak English well —Preceding unsigned comment added by JGabriel ar (talk • contribs) 04:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He fails the lead-in rules for notability. He plays a Telecaster. But he is not notable for doing it. He is just an owner no different than thousands of other owners. 198.164.219.128 (talk) 21:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Who the hell this non-identified user has the right of DECIDE who is notable and who is not. The source Jgabriel remark is valid. Gustavo Cerati is god in south America and he always played the telecaster, The sound of this guitar is vital to Soda stereo sound. Soda Stereo is the equivalent of the rolling stones in south America and this guy came here and delete his name from the article because he does not who is he and his relevance. Gabriel go ahead my man put back again Cerati on the list. --Therein8383 (talk) 02:40, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
An editor's anonymity is irrelevant to the soundness of their case. The source previously cited for Cerati's inclusion is Cerati's own website. The site does confirm that Cerati used a Tele as his primary guitar, at least at the time of publication. However, it does not confirm that this use is notable, as defined in this list's inclusion criteria. Cerati's self-published website is insufficient to confirm notable use. A reliable third party must make that evaluation. Cerati may well belong in this list, but not on the basis of Cerati's own website. Nick Graves (talk) 02:55, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is quite true as he says Therein8383 and Nick Graves. I completely agree with both. If Cerati occupied the Telecaster with Soda Stereo, I do not know the truth I never saw him with a telecaster (sorry if I'm wrong), but now in his solo career if he uses the telecaster frequently. Nick Graves, with regard to references, it is true, in addition to the website of Gustavo, I must find some other website also accredited to confirm it. So far I have found websites unreliable. What I do now? Now again he erased what I wrote, "I leave the article as is, or I add again what I wrote?. To My "friend" that erased what I wrote, just deleted it because he don't know Cerati. Well, I tell you to learn more before acting. There are some guitarists on the list that I know well, or that I never heard their names, but not for that reason I will delete. Again I apologize if i wrote something wrong, it's my bad English language.JGabriel ar (talk) 17:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As with all articles, only properly sourced and supported information belongs. Since Cerati's website cannot confirm notable use (it only confirms that he does or did use one), the information should remain out until we find a better source. This article has featured status, and this is in part because it does not contain unsupported material. Since so many musicians play Teles, we must limit entries to those whose use of the Tele is notable, according to reliable sources. I think Cerati might belong on this list. We just don't have the right source yet to put him in. Nick Graves (talk) 02:23, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The criteria in the lead section of the article is very clear. The list is a featured article. There are lots of guitarists who use a Telecaster. But only a few who meet the strict criteria for being notable. Anyone can play a Telecaster. Thousands of guitarists own one and play them regularly. And this entry is no different. He owns one. He plays one. But he is not notable for it.He may be a notable musician. But it is not because he plays a Telecaster. This list is for notable Telecaster players only. Not just plain ol' owners. Wiki libs (talk) 15:05, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Page, part II[edit]

Why did jimmy page is a notable user?. He is known for using a les paul not a telecaster. That he has sometimes used the telecaster not mean it is remarkable. As a guitarist is certainly notable, but it is not notable as a user of telecaster Peter Hofer (talk) 19:35, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that anyone disputes that he is more notable today as a user of the Les Paul. However, this latter-day notability as a Gibson player does not erase his earlier notability as a Tele player. That an author thought Page's use of the guitar notable enough to document it in a book about Telecasters is pretty solid support for Page's notability as a Tele player. His extensive use of the Tele with the Yardbirds, and his use of the guitar in the iconic Stairway solo are ample support for his inclusion in this list. Nick Graves (talk) 23:07, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The previous discussions on the topic like this one clearly explain why he is included on this list. 198.164.219.128 (talk) 03:12, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Molko[edit]

I know that Brian Molko of Placebo uses a Fender Telecaster Thinline for the songs "Taste in Men" and "Kitty Litter". Go on YouTube and watch any video of these songs and I can be 100% sure that Brian uses the Telecaster Thinline. Plus he uses a Fender Telecaster Deluxe for the song Battle For The Sun, and one of the first guitars he got was a standard Telecaster. --ThePluggedInBaby — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThePluggedInBaby (talk • contribs) 14:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Roy Buchanan[edit]

Hey, Roy is great, love his work, definitely belongs on this list. At least once. But he's on here twice, once under "B" and again under "R". 4.53.107.107 (talk) 02:50, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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